Is every other planet round, and the Earth isn't?

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Is every other planet round, and the Earth isn't?
« on: August 31, 2013, 04:36:30 PM »
 Just a question.

 I've posted here and it seems any time I bring up VERY basic logic, the flat earth people run and hide.

 I'm just really curious to hear your explanation of why EVERY OTHER planet we can see is round, and earth isn't.

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Re: Is every other planet round, and the Earth isn't?
« Reply #1 on: August 31, 2013, 04:49:56 PM »
The earth is not a planet.

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Re: Is every other planet round, and the Earth isn't?
« Reply #2 on: August 31, 2013, 05:07:08 PM »
The earth is not a planet.

According to accepted definition of a planet.:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IAU_definition_of_planet

According to FE Theory, the earth is not a planet because it's not  round because if it was it wouldn't fit in with the rest of the FE Theory.

The Flat Earth is a special unique exception according to FE Theory.

According to FE Theory, everything.....the moon, the sun, the stars.....rotate around a stationary earth that is the middle of the universe rather than the other way around.

There was one FE that stated there weren't any planets, too.

Another said that planets were discs like the earth , too.

The above just in case you don't get an answer from FE.  ;D
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Re: Is every other planet round, and the Earth isn't?
« Reply #3 on: August 31, 2013, 05:13:03 PM »
The earth is a plane which is perhaps infinite in extent. The planets are small bodies swirling 3000 miles above our heads in the celestial system. They are very different bodies. It does not follow that they operate under the same physics.

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« Reply #4 on: August 31, 2013, 05:19:06 PM »
What causes all of the other planets to form into spheres?
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« Reply #5 on: August 31, 2013, 05:22:59 PM »
Just a question.

 I've posted here and it seems any time I bring up VERY basic logic, the flat earth people run and hide.

 I'm just really curious to hear your explanation of why EVERY OTHER planet we can see is round, and earth isn't.
It'd be a pleasure explaining this to you, as I have been working on my own thoery concerning this. According to science, gravity will cause mass concentrations in space to round up and become a spheroid. The earth, in my thoery, was created much differently. I believe the earth was the basis of the Big Bang, it is where the universe began, and that the Earth was spread out by its expansion until it finally cooled into the flat surface it is. This would also explain why it is the center of the universe. I am still improving on this thoery, but this is the hypothesis
The earth is not a planet.
Yes, in this way it is not technically a planet. After all, planet comes from the Greek word for "wandering star", and Earth doesn't even move
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« Reply #6 on: August 31, 2013, 05:26:21 PM »
The earth is not a planet.

According to accepted definition of a planet.:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IAU_definition_of_planet

According to FE Theory, the earth is not a planet because it's not  round because if it was it wouldn't fit in with the rest of the FE Theory.

The Flat Earth is a special unique exception according to FE Theory.

According to FE Theory, everything.....the moon, the sun, the stars.....rotate around a stationary earth that is the middle of the universe rather than the other way around.

There was one FE that stated there weren't any planets, too.

Another said that planets were discs like the earth , too.

The above just in case you don't get an answer from FE.  ;D
Yes this is why Earth is not a planet, same with Uranus and Neptune

No planets at all? That's a pretty strange thoery
The earth is a plane which is perhaps infinite in extent. The planets are small bodies swirling 3000 miles above our heads in the celestial system. They are very different bodies. It does not follow that they operate under the same physics.
I still think the planets are as far science says they are
What causes all of the other planets to form into spheres?
Gravity
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« Reply #7 on: August 31, 2013, 05:31:49 PM »
1. Uranus and Neptune are planets and this point is not even up for debate.
2. I thought gravity didn't exist.
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« Reply #8 on: August 31, 2013, 05:39:05 PM »
1. Uranus and Neptune are planets and this point is not even up for debate.
They aren't planets you can read about my point of view in the Tychonic system thread
2. I thought gravity didn't exist.
It does. When I first joined I didn't believe so but after a few days I embraced it
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« Reply #9 on: August 31, 2013, 05:45:18 PM »
1. I already read that thread and the point about Uranus and Neptune not being planets is the biggest reason I think you are a troll.
2. If it exists then why isn't earth pulled into a sphere?
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« Reply #10 on: August 31, 2013, 06:04:52 PM »
1. I already read that thread and the point about Uranus and Neptune not being planets is the biggest reason I think you are a troll.
Why are you so intolerant? All because I happen to have different views than you doesn't make me a troll. And it's not like I'm saying they don't exist. There dwarf planets (which means dwarf in rank, not size)
2. If it exists then why isn't earth pulled into a sphere?
Because the way gravity works for Earth in my thoery is that it is pulled and stretched (may I add I believe in a disc earth that is enclosed by four corners) which was caused by the expansion of the universe and pulls entirely under the square instead of there being one center of gravity
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« Reply #11 on: August 31, 2013, 06:11:58 PM »
1. I am not intolerant. I just came to the logical conclusion that anyone who thinks Uranus and Neptune are not planets is either stupid or a troll. I don't think you are stupid so that just leaves troll. Just my (and many others) opinion.
2. So how do the other planets form spheres if there is no center of gravity for their matter to be pulled to?
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« Reply #12 on: August 31, 2013, 06:29:02 PM »
1. I am not intolerant. I just came to the logical conclusion that anyone who thinks Uranus and Neptune are not planets is either stupid or a troll. I don't think you are stupid so that just leaves troll. Just my (and many others) opinion.
Look it is my view, accept that I believe in it. They thought the same thing about your hero Copernicus when he (falsely) stated the earth revolves around the sun. I'm glad you don't think I'm stupid but I would rather be known as stupid than a troll. Either way I'm neither
2. So how do the other planets form spheres if there is no center of gravity for their matter to be pulled to?
I only said the Earth worked this way, the other planets work the way science says so
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« Reply #13 on: August 31, 2013, 06:32:06 PM »
1. Okay. I will put you on my list of stupid FEs.
2. Why would gravity work two different ways?
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« Reply #14 on: August 31, 2013, 06:42:57 PM »
1. Okay. I will put you on my list of stupid FEs.
Why? I am very much intelligent, I just have different views
2. Why would gravity work two different ways?
Because Earth is the base of the universe and source of all gravity. Think of black holes, they act differently
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Re: Is every other planet round, and the Earth isn't?
« Reply #15 on: September 04, 2013, 01:34:21 AM »
The earth cannot be the center of the universe nor the source of all gravity. Firstly due to universal expansion, we know we are expanding away from from a big bang type event, or some force which appears to have a central source. Lastly, the earth cannot be the source of all gravity because there are gravitic anomalies in space which have far stronger attractions than the earth, ie. black holes, the great attractor, every star... One who hears that the earth is the source of all gravity from someone who believes the basic accepted science regarding planets is led to the obvious conclusion that the earth would therefore have to have the strongest gravity. The accepted theory is that dust accreted together over long periods of time due to gravity forming larger and larger rocks and boulders which also came together due to gravity over a long period of time to form the earth. Any FE model would require the construction of an incredibly massive complex, at least 24,000 miles long and roughly 5-6000 miles high depending on how massive the contraption pushing the whole thing up would be, not to mention whatever devices are used to manipulate what we are seeing in the sky. We are talking about more resources than a RE could even provide..... is this incorrect?

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Re: Is every other planet round, and the Earth isn't?
« Reply #16 on: September 04, 2013, 09:02:56 AM »
In the words of James Thurber : "You could look it up."

 But......I have read somewhere that the universe has no center and no edge.

Of course, that is in the real world and not  in the fantasy world of the Flat Earth Society. LOL.
I'm not accusing FE'ers of being stupid. They just have their own ideas of which they are certainly entitled to have. After all this is their forum website. Sometimes I feel like an intruder.

I think it was our friend sceptimatic or some other FE that said there were  no planets.
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Re: Is every other planet round, and the Earth isn't?
« Reply #17 on: September 04, 2013, 06:54:13 PM »
Just a question.

 I've posted here and it seems any time I bring up VERY basic logic, the flat earth people run and hide.

 I'm just really curious to hear your explanation of why EVERY OTHER planet we can see is round, and earth isn't.

Many flat-earthers, myself included, believe that the earth is accelerating at 9.8 meters per second squared.  This simulates what you call gravity. This half of your definition of gravity is incorrect, however, the other half is right.  Gravity does form planets into spheroids.  The reason that the earth isn't a sphere is because it is not a planet; it is an object accelerating upwards.  Now, just because we haven't found any other objects accelerating does not mean that they don't exist and to say otherwise would be a classic argument from ignorance.

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« Reply #18 on: September 04, 2013, 06:57:22 PM »
Just a question.

 I've posted here and it seems any time I bring up VERY basic logic, the flat earth people run and hide.

 I'm just really curious to hear your explanation of why EVERY OTHER planet we can see is round, and earth isn't.

Many flat-earthers, myself included, believe that the earth is accelerating at 9.8 meters per second squared.  This simulates what you call gravity. This half of your definition of gravity is incorrect, however, the other half is right.  Gravity does form planets into spheroids.  The reason that the earth isn't a sphere is because it is not a planet; it is an object accelerating upwards.  Now, just because we haven't found any other objects accelerating does not mean that they don't exist and to say otherwise would be a classic argument from ignorance.

There isn't any reason to believe it is flat.

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« Reply #19 on: September 04, 2013, 07:11:45 PM »
There isn't any reason to believe it is flat.

Why not?

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Re: Is every other planet round, and the Earth isn't?
« Reply #20 on: September 04, 2013, 07:14:02 PM »
There isn't any reason to believe it is flat.

Why not?

I don't know. You seem to think I shouldn't assume there is one sun. Why should you assume the earth is flat?

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« Reply #21 on: September 04, 2013, 07:26:31 PM »
There isn't any reason to believe it is flat.

Why not?

I don't know. You seem to think I shouldn't assume there is one sun. Why should you assume the earth is flat?

Do you feel that's a strong line of reasoning?  Would you like another crack at defending why you think there isn't any reason to believe that the earth is flat before I decimate this response?

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« Reply #22 on: September 04, 2013, 07:38:40 PM »
There isn't any reason to believe it is flat.

Why not?

I don't know. You seem to think I shouldn't assume there is one sun. Why should you assume the earth is flat?

Do you feel that's a strong line of reasoning?  Would you like another crack at defending why you think there isn't any reason to believe that the earth is flat before I decimate this response?

Judging by the things you've said so far, I'm not expecting to have much to worry about.

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« Reply #23 on: September 04, 2013, 07:58:57 PM »
There isn't any reason to believe it is flat.

Why not?

I don't know. You seem to think I shouldn't assume there is one sun. Why should you assume the earth is flat?

Do you feel that's a strong line of reasoning?  Would you like another crack at defending why you think there isn't any reason to believe that the earth is flat before I decimate this response?

Judging by the things you've said so far, I'm not expecting to have much to worry about.

Very well.  Prepare for my salvo of questions.

You don't know?  You don't know why there isn't any reason to believe that thy earth is flat?  Why the hell are you here?  Or better yet, why are you arguing for a round-earth? 

Why are you trying to cross debates?  Are you trying to derail this topic?  Why would someone assume that there is only one sun? 

Why should I assume that the earth is flat?  I don't assume that the earth is flat.  I have reached that conclusion after years of research.  I don't even understand how this question fits, but then I suppose that the other two didn't fit either so I guess it's a pattern of randomness.  This post was thoroughly devoid of thought and content.  The questions were meaningless and did nothing to answer the question you responded to.  I can only assume that you have no answer, cannot supply an answer, or are simply to lazy to present one.

If you don't intent to further discussion you can simply not post.  You don't have to reply inanely.

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« Reply #24 on: September 04, 2013, 08:17:07 PM »
Very well.  Prepare for my salvo of questions.

You don't know?  You don't know why there isn't any reason to believe that thy earth is flat?  Why the hell are you here?  Or better yet, why are you arguing for a round-earth? 

Why are you trying to cross debates?  Are you trying to derail this topic?  Why would someone assume that there is only one sun? 

Why should I assume that the earth is flat?  I don't assume that the earth is flat.  I have reached that conclusion after years of research.  I don't even understand how this question fits, but then I suppose that the other two didn't fit either so I guess it's a pattern of randomness.  This post was thoroughly devoid of thought and content.  The questions were meaningless and did nothing to answer the question you responded to.  I can only assume that you have no answer, cannot supply an answer, or are simply to lazy to present one.

If you don't intent to further discussion you can simply not post.  You don't have to reply inanely.

Well I'm here because this place is a zit. An irresistible that I can't help but to put my oily fingers on. My "I don't know" response was a sarcastic one. I believe the earth is round because I believe in the testimonies of astronauts who say they've been to space. I know it irks you to hear that. I also believe the earth is round because while pictures can be faked, to assume they all are just because they can be is a logical fallacy. I KNOW the earth is round because I'm a United States Sailor and I've sailed the worlds oceans. I KNOW the earth is round because my job on a naval vessel is as an aerographers mate which is navy terminology for meteorologist/oceanographer. I KNOW the earth is round because that job means a personal hand in navigation. I KNOW the earth is round because as a meteorologist I have to understand round earth models to accurately predict and forecast weather for a moving vessel in the dark ocean. I KNOW the earth is round because as an oceanographer I have a hand in mapping the ocean bottom. I KNOW the earth is round because I facilitate weather balloons and map models of their findings. I KNOW the earth is round because I monitor geostationary and polar orbiting satellites. I KNOW the earth is round because if we lose connection to those satellites then reconnecting to them is an arduous task that requires precision gps data that can only be accurately accounted for with correct models. I KNOW the earth is round because I create tactical decision aids where I work with radar, sonar and weapons and accurately model propagation based on my forecasts. I know the earth is round because those propagation paths are not possible on a flat earth. I KNOW the earth is round because it sure as hell ain't flat.
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