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Re: Sceptimatics theory
« Reply #720 on: September 02, 2013, 12:06:28 PM »
Whether the light is produced by friction doesn't make the light responsible for the sound. The friction is but not the light.


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Re: Sceptimatics theory
« Reply #721 on: September 02, 2013, 12:06:41 PM »
Obviously he doesn't know which episode of MB I was referring too either.  It's the same one where they tried to beat a fingerprint ID machine with ink prints.
So in simple terms, tell me how light happens without the need for friction.
Chemical reaction, A glow stick.

Delete your posts.
And what do you think a chemical reaction is?
Change of energy and bonds.
And what is energy?
Umm, something like the ability to do work.
Now what kind of work could that glow stick be under to achieve it's glow?
In a glow stick a reaction is taking places releasing energy. The florescent dye in a glowstick absorbs this energy and the releases it in the form of visible light.
 
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Re: Sceptimatics theory
« Reply #722 on: September 02, 2013, 12:07:54 PM »
scepti, how do you define friction?
Agitated matter as in collisions, or high pressure matter squeezing through lower pressure matter.

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Re: Sceptimatics theory
« Reply #723 on: September 02, 2013, 12:10:51 PM »
Friction is the force that resists motion.  Friction doesn't describe matter of any state.
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Re: Sceptimatics theory
« Reply #724 on: September 02, 2013, 12:12:20 PM »
Friction is the force that resists motion.  Friction doesn't describe matter of any state.
Who said it describes matter?

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Re: Sceptimatics theory
« Reply #725 on: September 02, 2013, 12:12:57 PM »
Scepti, what kind of friction happened here? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fluorescence

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Re: Sceptimatics theory
« Reply #726 on: September 02, 2013, 12:13:59 PM »
Whether the light is produced by friction doesn't make the light responsible for the sound. The friction is but not the light.
The sound is responsible for the light.

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Re: Sceptimatics theory
« Reply #727 on: September 02, 2013, 12:14:28 PM »
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Who said it describes matter?

scepti, how do you define friction?
Agitated matter as in collisions, or high pressure matter squeezing through lower pressure matter.

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Re: Sceptimatics theory
« Reply #728 on: September 02, 2013, 12:14:47 PM »
Obviously he doesn't know which episode of MB I was referring too either.  It's the same one where they tried to beat a fingerprint ID machine with ink prints.
So in simple terms, tell me how light happens without the need for friction.
Chemical reaction, A glow stick.

Delete your posts.
And what do you think a chemical reaction is?
Change of energy and bonds.
And what is energy?
Umm, something like the ability to do work.
Now what kind of work could that glow stick be under to achieve it's glow?
In a glow stick a reaction is taking places releasing energy. The florescent dye in a glowstick absorbs this energy and the releases it in the form of visible light.
By friction.

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Re: Sceptimatics theory
« Reply #729 on: September 02, 2013, 12:15:15 PM »
He doesn't seem to have long term memory :)

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Who said it describes matter?

scepti, how do you define friction?
Agitated matter as in collisions, or high pressure matter squeezing through lower pressure matter.
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Re: Sceptimatics theory
« Reply #730 on: September 02, 2013, 12:15:31 PM »
Whether the light is produced by friction doesn't make the light responsible for the sound. The friction is but not the light.
The sound is responsible for the light.
Sound is pressure waves. Light is electromagnetic waves. Two different things.
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Re: Sceptimatics theory
« Reply #731 on: September 02, 2013, 12:16:22 PM »
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Who said it describes matter?

scepti, how do you define friction?
Agitated matter as in collisions, or high pressure matter squeezing through lower pressure matter.
It's the result of matter, as I said. I didn't say it describes matter.

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« Reply #732 on: September 02, 2013, 12:18:44 PM »
Whether the light is produced by friction doesn't make the light responsible for the sound. The friction is but not the light.
The sound is responsible for the light.

Why is light then much much faster than sound? Even if you don't admit to the scientifically tested speed, it still is faster..

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« Reply #733 on: September 02, 2013, 12:19:22 PM »
Scepti, what kind of friction happened here? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fluorescence
The absorbing of matter.

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Re: Sceptimatics theory
« Reply #734 on: September 02, 2013, 12:19:28 PM »
Whether the light is produced by friction doesn't make the light responsible for the sound. The friction is but not the light.
The sound is responsible for the light.

the friction is responsible for the light and also the sound. The sound doesn't make the light.

For example your parents (friction) created you (light) and your sibling (sound). Your sibling (sound) did not create you (light).

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Re: Sceptimatics theory
« Reply #735 on: September 02, 2013, 12:19:34 PM »
Obviously he doesn't know which episode of MB I was referring too either.  It's the same one where they tried to beat a fingerprint ID machine with ink prints.
So in simple terms, tell me how light happens without the need for friction.
Chemical reaction, A glow stick.

Delete your posts.
And what do you think a chemical reaction is?
Change of energy and bonds.
And what is energy?
Umm, something like the ability to do work.
Now what kind of work could that glow stick be under to achieve it's glow?
In a glow stick a reaction is taking places releasing energy. The florescent dye in a glowstick absorbs this energy and the releases it in the form of visible light.
By friction.
No, By changing electron orbitals. The electron jumps up an orbital and then falls back down releasing energy as visible light. In a glowstick the florescent dye absorbs UV light(the energy made from the reaction) and re emits it in the visible range.
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Re: Sceptimatics theory
« Reply #736 on: September 02, 2013, 12:21:35 PM »
Whether the light is produced by friction doesn't make the light responsible for the sound. The friction is but not the light.
The sound is responsible for the light.
Sound is pressure waves. Light is electromagnetic waves. Two different things.
What do you think electro magnetic is and what it does.

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Re: Sceptimatics theory
« Reply #737 on: September 02, 2013, 12:23:17 PM »
Whether the light is produced by friction doesn't make the light responsible for the sound. The friction is but not the light.
The sound is responsible for the light.
Sound is pressure waves. Light is electromagnetic waves. Two different things.
What do you think electro magnetic is and what it does.

It's cute when you try to use science to discredit science.

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Re: Sceptimatics theory
« Reply #738 on: September 02, 2013, 12:26:32 PM »
Whether the light is produced by friction doesn't make the light responsible for the sound. The friction is but not the light.
The sound is responsible for the light.

Why is light then much much faster than sound? Even if you don't admit to the scientifically tested speed, it still is faster..
Because light is reflected much faster to the eye than the sound waves are to the ear.

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Re: Sceptimatics theory
« Reply #739 on: September 02, 2013, 12:28:51 PM »
Whether the light is produced by friction doesn't make the light responsible for the sound. The friction is but not the light.
The sound is responsible for the light.

the friction is responsible for the light and also the sound. The sound doesn't make the light.

For example your parents (friction) created you (light) and your sibling (sound). Your sibling (sound) did not create you (light).
This is the problem with your science. You cannot contemplate the simplicity and have to make up something that makes no sense.

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Re: Sceptimatics theory
« Reply #740 on: September 02, 2013, 12:30:40 PM »
Obviously he doesn't know which episode of MB I was referring too either.  It's the same one where they tried to beat a fingerprint ID machine with ink prints.
So in simple terms, tell me how light happens without the need for friction.
Chemical reaction, A glow stick.

Delete your posts.
And what do you think a chemical reaction is?
Change of energy and bonds.
And what is energy?
Umm, something like the ability to do work.
Now what kind of work could that glow stick be under to achieve it's glow?
In a glow stick a reaction is taking places releasing energy. The florescent dye in a glowstick absorbs this energy and the releases it in the form of visible light.
By friction.
No, By changing electron orbitals. The electron jumps up an orbital and then falls back down releasing energy as visible light. In a glowstick the florescent dye absorbs UV light(the energy made from the reaction) and re emits it in the visible range.
A reaction is friction no matter how it's dressed up.

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Re: Sceptimatics theory
« Reply #741 on: September 02, 2013, 12:32:13 PM »
Whether the light is produced by friction doesn't make the light responsible for the sound. The friction is but not the light.
The sound is responsible for the light.
Sound is pressure waves. Light is electromagnetic waves. Two different things.
What do you think electro magnetic is and what it does.

It's cute when you try to use science to discredit science.
Everything we do, is science.

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Re: Sceptimatics theory
« Reply #742 on: September 02, 2013, 12:33:20 PM »
Whether the light is produced by friction doesn't make the light responsible for the sound. The friction is but not the light.
The sound is responsible for the light.
Sound is pressure waves. Light is electromagnetic waves. Two different things.
What do you think electro magnetic is and what it does.
Electromagnetic radiation is energy. It propagates.

Friction transfers energy. Your car's brakes take the kinetic energy of motion and turn it into heat energy to slow you down through friction. The rotors can then dispel this heat through one of three types of heat transfer. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heat_transfer. One of which is light.
Friction is not light and not necessary for light.

You are confused, again.
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Re: Sceptimatics theory
« Reply #743 on: September 02, 2013, 12:34:03 PM »
Obviously he doesn't know which episode of MB I was referring too either.  It's the same one where they tried to beat a fingerprint ID machine with ink prints.
So in simple terms, tell me how light happens without the need for friction.
Chemical reaction, A glow stick.

Delete your posts.
And what do you think a chemical reaction is?
Change of energy and bonds.
And what is energy?
Umm, something like the ability to do work.
Now what kind of work could that glow stick be under to achieve it's glow?
In a glow stick a reaction is taking places releasing energy. The florescent dye in a glowstick absorbs this energy and the releases it in the form of visible light.
By friction.
No, By changing electron orbitals. The electron jumps up an orbital and then falls back down releasing energy as visible light. In a glowstick the florescent dye absorbs UV light(the energy made from the reaction) and re emits it in the visible range.
A reaction is friction no matter how it's dressed up.
No, it's not.
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Re: Sceptimatics theory
« Reply #744 on: September 02, 2013, 12:35:07 PM »
Whether the light is produced by friction doesn't make the light responsible for the sound. The friction is but not the light.
The sound is responsible for the light.

the friction is responsible for the light and also the sound. The sound doesn't make the light.

For example your parents (friction) created you (light) and your sibling (sound). Your sibling (sound) did not create you (light).
This is the problem with your science. You cannot contemplate the simplicity and have to make up something that makes no sense.

This is just an example I made to show you the problem with your logic. The friction can produce light and sound but that light and sound are independent of each other.

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Re: Sceptimatics theory
« Reply #745 on: September 03, 2013, 02:22:01 PM »
Where do meteors come from in this theory?

Edit: Fixed question mark. It was bothering me.
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Anyone with a phoenix avatar is clearly amazing.

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Re: Sceptimatics theory
« Reply #746 on: September 03, 2013, 02:45:38 PM »
Where do meteors come from in this theoryÉ
I was thinking the same thing yesterday. Fire balls made of ice?

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« Reply #747 on: September 03, 2013, 03:22:06 PM »
Where do meteors come from in this theoryÉ

I don't want to give scepti any ideas so please note that this is pure fiction / sarcasm :

Maybe volcanic eruptions on middle earth shoots projectiles into the dome, these projectiles even fall to our observable earth or back in middle earth. The ones that appear to be coming from the sides and not middle earth has hit the dome and changed direction, without breaking the ice..

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« Reply #748 on: September 03, 2013, 08:31:44 PM »
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Entirely irrelevant. Extremely low and extremely high air pressures DO measurably affect the propagation of sound, and render it impossible in extremely low pressures.
Light is the end product of vibration/sound. It's the result of that agitation. No agitation = no heat and no heat means no light, It's as simple as that. Heat and light cannot work unless this happens, no matter how you try and dress it up.

Light is not the byproduct of heat, or, specifically, heat is another byproduct of things which can cause light, and of light itself.
But light is not sound.

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The same is not true of light. Light is not a sound. It is a wave/ particle that can propagate without a medium, and cannot travel through the same materials a vibration wave can.
Light is the reflected product of sound and vibration. Scientists have managed to fool people into believing light is somehow this super fast thing that doesn't need anything for it to work.
If it does, then tell me what causes light. What is the reason we see light?[/quote]

Particles called photons hitting our retinas with various light spectrums that have reflected off of or have been projected by the surfaces near to us. These photons are the result of Electrons and other charged particles jumping off of their valences, most commonly as a result of chemical reactions, but also due to radiation absorption and re-emission.

Quite a multitude of these reactions have no auditory component, nor do they require friction.




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If the medium is required for light to propagate through, objects inside a vacuum tube would be hard or impossible to see. They are not. Light is not a goddamn sound wave.
We cannot make a true vacuum on earth for you to even say this. You are simply duped into believing that something can travel through nothing.
No matter, no existence. It should be absolute common sense but scientific story telling has warped people's minds.
Seriously, search your mind and re-evaluate what you are being fed.
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Re: Sceptimatics theory
« Reply #749 on: September 04, 2013, 09:25:00 PM »
Feel free to fix your quotes hewholikespie.

I'm just wondering if skeptic was going to come back and back up his crap physics.
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