Logic behind the conspiracy

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Re: Logic behind the conspiracy
« Reply #120 on: August 24, 2013, 03:32:49 PM »
You are jumping ahead as you have not demonstrated they were hiding the shape of the earth as opposed to simply in error.
So are you saying that before space flight pretty much everyone who thought of the earth as round was just wrong? The evidence was compelling enough to change the Papal view of the position of the Earth in the cosmos, and yet apparently this same evidence is enough to convince you that the Earth is flat!
I'd like to agree with you but then we'd both be wrong!

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Re: Logic behind the conspiracy
« Reply #121 on: August 24, 2013, 05:02:20 PM »
Can you provide any Papal reference to the earth being flat?  :-\
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Re: Logic behind the conspiracy
« Reply #122 on: August 24, 2013, 05:52:07 PM »
Can you provide any Papal reference to the earth being flat?  :-\

Well, there's the holy book of the Papacy, which in at least one verse claims that the entirety of the Earth is visible from the peak of the highest mountain.  Not really possible with a geoid.  There are also references to the four corners, although to the best of my knowledge they were intended as metaphorical.  There is a reason many people believe TFES to be a group of biblical literalists.

I don't think that was what Manarq was referring to, however.  Rather, the major change is that of geocentrism, with the Earth being the center of the solar system, to heliocentrism with the sun being the center of the solar system, based upon the same force that drives Earth into a rough sphere and some simpler mathematics.

To play to your side, Ski, by the time the Church formed, it was mostly common knowledge that the Earth was roughly spherical, thanks to the ancient philosophers and mathematicians.  To continue playing to Manarq's, the Papal view of the Earth's position in the cosmos was changed radically by the same evidence that presents Earth as a geoid.
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Re: Logic behind the conspiracy
« Reply #123 on: August 25, 2013, 03:10:54 AM »
I think it might be worth a think about all the organisations that had an interest in the shape of the Earth before the 1950's, most will be in day to day application of the global model. I'll make a bit of a start.
National Navies
Astronomers
Cartographers
Surveyors
Airlines/Airforces
Antarctic Explorers (depending on model)
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Re: Logic behind the conspiracy
« Reply #124 on: November 23, 2013, 03:02:12 PM »
No one seems to consider the flip side, that all evidence of a flat Earth has been fabricated.

Precisely how does one fabricate direct observation?   :-\

Please refer us to a piece of evidence that relies solely on observation.
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