The Bible supports abortion

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The Test for an Unfaithful Wife

11 Then the Lord said to Moses, 12 “Speak to the Israelites and say to them: ‘If a man’s wife goes astray and is unfaithful to him 13 so that another man has sexual relations with her, and this is hidden from her husband and her impurity is undetected (since there is no witness against her and she has not been caught in the act), 14 and if feelings of jealousy come over her husband and he suspects his wife and she is impure—or if he is jealous and suspects her even though she is not impure— 15 then he is to take his wife to the priest. He must also take an offering of a tenth of an ephah[c] of barley flour on her behalf. He must not pour olive oil on it or put incense on it, because it is a grain offering for jealousy, a reminder-offering to draw attention to wrongdoing.

16 “‘The priest shall bring her and have her stand before the Lord. 17 Then he shall take some holy water in a clay jar and put some dust from the tabernacle floor into the water. 18 After the priest has had the woman stand before the Lord, he shall loosen her hair and place in her hands the reminder-offering, the grain offering for jealousy, while he himself holds the bitter water that brings a curse. 19 Then the priest shall put the woman under oath and say to her, “If no other man has had sexual relations with you and you have not gone astray and become impure while married to your husband, may this bitter water that brings a curse not harm you. 20 But if you have gone astray while married to your husband and you have made yourself impure by having sexual relations with a man other than your husband”— 21 here the priest is to put the woman under this curse—“may the Lord cause you to become a curse[d] among your people when he makes your womb miscarry and your abdomen swell. 22 May this water that brings a curse enter your body so that your abdomen swells or your womb miscarries.”  --Numbers 5

God sanctions baby killing.

The Bible supports whatever you want it to.

I'd like to see how that passage can be interpreted as a pro life stance.  Hell that's not even a pro choice passage, that supports abortion, voluntary or not on the woman's part, and forced sterilization.

That passage might support it but half a dozen others can be interpreted to disagree. Same as any position on any matter.

Where in the bible does it say a fetus is the same as a human life, or life begins at conception.

You could take 'there is no man or woman, no free man or slave, we are all the same in the sight of the Lord'

Anti-choicers don't have difficulties biblically justifying their beliefs, ask them.

I am,  that's why I posted.  Even if they can establish life at conception, they cannot say god supports a pro life stance when his law states that abortions are permitted.

Priests are supposed to be performing abortions on those slutty slutty wives.

It appears so.  Hey what happened to all the christian apologetics on this site?  Did they all leave?

Priests are supposed to be performing abortions on those slutty slutty wives.

Except that it was a curse.  Their magic must have been strong if it actually worked. 

Or something more than the dust off the floor was in the water.

The bible supports many things under very specific circumstances. It is not as black and white as pro-choice/pro-life. In general, a pro-life stance is held. The posted scripture only covers adultery, which is still a crime in most countries.

My dad is Christian and he also believes that the bible is not against abortion, soo...

My dad is Christian and he also believes that the bible is not against abortion, soo...

The bible is not a monolithic entity and therefore it is incapable of having a singlular opinion on any given issue.

Where in the bible does it say a fetus is the same as a human life, or life begins at conception.

Something about getting knit together in the mother's womb. I don't know what passage, but even it can be interpreted differently.

The opinion of the church for much of the middle ages was that a soul could not be housed in a body which is not human-shaped. Thus, abortions were okay until the foetus resembled a human several months in.

Or something more than the dust off the floor was in the water.

Indeed, I think it was fairly clear it was parasites especially with passages talking about the passing of serpents.

Quote from: Space Cowgirl on July 25, 2013, 10:32:29 AM

Or something more than the dust off the floor was in the water.

Indeed, I think it was fairly clear it was parasites especially with passages talking about the passing of serpents.

That's a new one to me, never heard any mention of parasites before. Wouldn't it take a long time for parasites to cause an abortion?  I was actually thinking more along the lines of the herbal abortifacients that were commonly known.

Look up tansy.  I believe they are probably talking about that.

Quote from: rooster on July 25, 2013, 10:53:16 AM

My dad is Christian and he also believes that the bible is not against abortion, soo...

The bible is not a monolithic entity and therefore it is incapable of having a singlular opinion on any given issue.

I'm aware, I was just giving Marcus one Christian perspective.

The Bible is against killing people, fetus has a heart at 18 days. Even viable fetuses are removed and butchered, it is not good.

What? The Bible is all about killing people.

What? The Bible is all about killing people.

Well I guess abortion is probably good then.

The Bible is against killing people, fetus has a heart at 18 days. Even viable fetuses are removed and butchered, it is not good.

It's probably a good thing to mention, up to forty days after conception a fetus is considered water by the Bible, and beyond that it's considered a limb of the mother.  It's only considered to be alive as it's own being when it takes it's first breath.  Either way, Space Cowgirl is right, there's a lot of killing in the Bible, with a good lot of it condoned and specifically ordered by God.

Quote from: Space Cowgirl on July 25, 2013, 03:06:11 PM

What? The Bible is all about killing people.

Well I guess abortion is probably good then.

Babies and children really aren't that special in the Bible. God kills lots of kids to punish their parents.

Quote from: hoppy on July 25, 2013, 05:02:45 PM

Quote from: Space Cowgirl on July 25, 2013, 03:06:11 PM

What? The Bible is all about killing people.

Well I guess abortion is probably good then.

Babies and children really aren't that special in the Bible. God kills lots of kids to punish their parents.

The Bible shows many times where parent very much love their children.

Quote from: Space Cowgirl on July 25, 2013, 05:38:20 PM

Quote from: hoppy on July 25, 2013, 05:02:45 PM

Quote from: Space Cowgirl on July 25, 2013, 03:06:11 PM

What? The Bible is all about killing people.

Well I guess abortion is probably good then.

Babies and children really aren't that special in the Bible. God kills lots of kids to punish their parents.

The Bible shows many times where parent very much love their children.

I'm confused. Did she say anything about parents not loving their children?

Quote from: hoppy on July 25, 2013, 08:37:41 PM

Quote from: Space Cowgirl on July 25, 2013, 05:38:20 PM

Quote from: hoppy on July 25, 2013, 05:02:45 PM

Quote from: Space Cowgirl on July 25, 2013, 03:06:11 PM

What? The Bible is all about killing people.

Well I guess abortion is probably good then.

Babies and children really aren't that special in the Bible. God kills lots of kids to punish their parents.

The Bible shows many times where parent very much love their children.

I'm confused. Did she say anything about parents not loving their children?

She said babies and children are not special in the bible, I disagree.

Maybe in some parts, in others they are slaughtered mercilessly at God's command.  Or by his own hand.