Star Exposure.

Quote from: Alex Tomasovich on August 16, 2013, 08:27:44 AM

Well, if we don't see them, then they can't be what I see crossing overhead. Thus, it's irrelevant to this discussion.

It is relevant if it's an airplane that for some reason you cannot hear but can see it's lights.  Or maybe it is not an airplane at all but instead some kind of quiet military UFO.  People claim to see them all the time.

Flat Earth Society, where the round earth is too implausible, but the Government has secret silent UFOs they put lights on just so you can see them.

Flat Earth Society, where the round earth is too implausible, but the Government has secret silent UFOs they put lights on just so you can see them.

It's an airplane/aircraft with visible lights but flies high enough not to be heard.  I said UFO because it's not identified as an airplane.  YES, it has LIGHTS because it's INTENDED to be seen!  Stop being so sarcastic and controversial.  It's pretty simple to comprehend for people who have the ability to think logically and critically.

Quote from: hewholikespie on August 16, 2013, 01:28:06 PM

Flat Earth Society, where the round earth is too implausible, but the Government has secret silent UFOs they put lights on just so you can see them.

It's an airplane/aircraft with visible lights but flies high enough not to be heard.  Stop being so sarcastic and controversial.  It's pretty simple to comprehend for people who have the ability to think logically and critically.

Well, I'll figure out if it's an airplane, here in a few days. Three, to be exact. It'll pass right over my head, and I can get a nice look at it.

Through a telescope, correct?  I would like you to record it if you can and post it here if you can.

Through a telescope, correct?  I would like you to record it if you can and post it here if you can.

I don't have a camera setup for my telescope, and I'm not sure how quickly it'll pass through the telescope's range of vision for me to snap one with a hand-held camera.

Turns out I'm not too good at tracking a moving object with a telescope. There's another pass tonight, and a third tomorrow. Hopefully I'll catch something then.

Quote from: hewholikespie on August 16, 2013, 01:28:06 PM

Flat Earth Society, where the round earth is too implausible, but the Government has secret silent UFOs they put lights on just so you can see them.

It's an airplane/aircraft with visible lights but flies high enough not to be heard.  I said UFO because it's not identified as an airplane.  YES, it has LIGHTS because it's INTENDED to be seen!  Stop being so sarcastic and controversial.  It's pretty simple to comprehend for people who have the ability to think logically and critically.

Yes, and those people come to the logical round earth conclusion.

The funny thing is, we do have an instance of the government flying then UFOs, and we know how the government reacted when it was discovered. They pretended it never existed. They did not say 'Uh, space station/ satellite'

Also, keep in mind, that every government in the world, more or less, needs to be flying these planes.

And that the flight crews would piece together the route.

And that several flights would be required a night.

Actually think about the logistics and the man power required to constantly fake the overhead pass of the ISS and all the satellites.

"All the satellites"?  I'm talking about one...the ISS.  There aren't hundreds of satellites up there.  And the ISS isn't seen in the same spot every night.

"All the satellites"?  I'm talking about one...the ISS.  There aren't hundreds of satellites up there.  And the ISS isn't seen in the same spot every night.

But it IS in the same spot repeatedly. And it's over many different countries, meaning many different flights and flight crews of various nationalities, none of whom have apparently noticed they fly directly under the ISS exactly when it's supposed to pass overhead and have come forth about it.

Then there are the folks who have taken pictures of the ISS going overhead, with its distinct silhouette. Apparently they make ISS shaped planes now, too.

"All the satellites"?  I'm talking about one...the ISS.  There aren't hundreds of satellites up there.  And the ISS isn't seen in the same spot every night.

You might be interested in the following app

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.agi.android.augmentedreality&hl=en

it shows you the satellites near you and even tells you which should be visible.

Not interested in apps.  They're all computer animations that cannot be proved.

Not interested in apps.  They're all computer animations that cannot be proved.

Except for the fact that the app in the link tells you what satellites you would be able to see if you actually looked, and so you can prove or disprove it yourself.  It's free, too, so you have nothing to lose from downloading it.  A telescope could be necessary in some cases, though, in which case you would have to put in an investment.

You see reflected dots of light in the sky and all of a sudden they are man made satellites.

You see reflected dots of light in the sky and all of a sudden they are man made satellites.

You see man made satellites in the sky and all of a sudden they are reflected dots of light.

You see reflected dots of light in the sky and all of a sudden they are man made satellites.

As opposed to what, exactly?
What is your alternate hypothesis for these regular lights that pass above the sky far faster than any jet and with no noise at all?

Caught the ISS with binoculars last night. It was small but definitely not plane-shaped. Certainly didn't look like it could fly anywhere.

Couldn't take a picture but it looked kinda like this minus the Space Shuttle Discovery:

You couldn't take a picture?  Then where did you get this image?

You couldn't take a picture?  Then where did you get this image?

I google-searched until I found an image that closely resembled what I saw. And no, I couldn't get a picture. have you tried taking a picture through binoculars of a moving object? Maybe I'll get better in time.