Coriolois effect

Quote from: SeekerOfTruth on November 08, 2013, 08:09:46 PM

Quote from: jroa on November 08, 2013, 08:08:12 PM

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Quote from: jroa on November 08, 2013, 07:49:20 PM

Co•ri•o′lis effect` (ˌkɔr iˈoʊ lɪs)
n.
the deflection of a body in motion with respect to the earth as seen by an observer on the earth, attributed to a hypothetical force (Corio′lis force`) but actually caused by the earth's rotation.

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Coriolis+effect

So, if the Earth spinning does not cause hurricanes to spin, then the Coriolis effect is not true.

Yes, I know this is what the online dictionary says. But the coriolis effect is more general. Its scientific definition is different, the basic online dictionary definition is a watered-down definition for a general audience.

Try looking on wikipedia. It discussed this effect in more general terms, specifically geometrically (which is closer to the scientific definition). It even shows how this effect would manifest on a FLAT SPINNING DISK. Now that would be useful to know, right? Can it be used to explain the effect in FET?

And no, "if the Earth spinning does not cause hurricanes to spin, then the Coriolis effect is not true," only means that something else causes hurricanes to spin. Just like something else causes bathtubs to drain. It does not apply here, but doesn't mean it doesn't apply ANYWHERE. Right?

OK, if it is not the Coriolis effect that makes hurricanes spin, then that does not necessarily mean the the Coriolis effect does not exist.  I will give you that.  But, it does make you wonder, "what else is conventional science wrong about?"  Can we at least agree on that?

Oh yeah! My whole premise on FET is that conventional science is mistaken about some things! This is what drives me.

But to be clear, conventional science DOES NOT say that hurricanes are caused by the coriolis effect. They never have. If someone told you that then they are mistaken. It is caused other things (we have talked about them). So RE scientists are not mistaken about THAT. They think the same thing we do for hurricanes. It is the OTHER evidence for this effect we must address.

This will not be easy. But its okay, worthwhile things rarely are.

Once again, we are not talking about what causes hurricanes.  We are talking about what causes them to spin.  I never said the Coriolis effect does/does not cause hurricanes.  Please stop saying that I said that.

Boy. Okay. The coriolis effect does not CAUSE HURRICANES TO SPIN. IT DOES NOT CAUSE HURRICANES TO BE MADE. IT DOES NOT HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH HURRICANES.

We can stop talking about hurricanes. They do not apply here, and do not help us.

Seriously, please stop trolling.  You are not even good at it.

Oh stop it. You are acting more like a troll than me. How about we do something constructive? Like develop FET to account for the coriolis effect.

I thought I gave a plausible explanation.  Air currents cause hurricanes to revolve.

I thought I gave a plausible explanation.  Air currents cause hurricanes to revolve.

As I said in an earlier post: "Does the coriolis effect cause hurricanes? I have never heard this before. I am pretty sure that hurricanes are caused by simple air currents influenced by pressure systems. The coriolis effect may impact it very slightly, but I am pretty sure in general it does not apply here."

And RE science also says this. Not only is your explanation plausible, it is what everyone believes....I really do not understand why we keep talking about these hurricanes....I think FE and RE are in agreement here. 

Quote from: jroa on November 08, 2013, 08:40:52 PM

I thought I gave a plausible explanation.  Air currents cause hurricanes to revolve.

As I said in an earlier post: "Does the coriolis effect cause hurricanes? I have never heard this before. I am pretty sure that hurricanes are caused by simple air currents influenced by pressure systems. The coriolis effect may impact it very slightly, but I am pretty sure in general it does not apply here."

And RE science also says this. Not only is your explanation plausible, it is what everyone believes....I really do not understand why we keep talking about these hurricanes....I think FE and RE are in agreement here.

For the last time, I never speculated about what causes hurricanes!  I suggested a reason the hurricanes spin the way they do.

Please stop doing this. 

Quote from: SeekerOfTruth on November 08, 2013, 08:46:59 PM

Quote from: jroa on November 08, 2013, 08:40:52 PM

I thought I gave a plausible explanation.  Air currents cause hurricanes to revolve.

As I said in an earlier post: "Does the coriolis effect cause hurricanes? I have never heard this before. I am pretty sure that hurricanes are caused by simple air currents influenced by pressure systems. The coriolis effect may impact it very slightly, but I am pretty sure in general it does not apply here."

And RE science also says this. Not only is your explanation plausible, it is what everyone believes....I really do not understand why we keep talking about these hurricanes....I think FE and RE are in agreement here.

For the last time, I never speculated about what causes hurricanes!  I suggested a reason the hurricanes spin the way they do.

Please stop doing this.

I am just only saying that what causes/makes hurricanes and what makes them spin once they ARE MADE are the same thing. You cannot have one without the other, because it is the same thing. But it appears this is causing you distress. Yes, let us stop.

And yet hurricanes formed on the same hemisphere always spin the same way but hurricanes formed on opposite hemispheres spin in the opposite direction.
They form on warm seas but not on the equator, they also head away from the equator.

And yet hurricanes formed on the same hemisphere always spin the same way but hurricanes formed on opposite hemispheres spin in the opposite direction.
They form on warm seas but not on the equator, they also head away from the equator.

Yes, you're right! I looked into this. I have been mistaken about this. Hurricanes are formed and spin due to the coriolis effect.

something other than hurricanes and toilets.
#ws" class="bbc_link" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Demonstrating how Coriolis effects bullet drop at 1000 yards

Jroa meant the direction they spin I imagine and perhaps should of been more clear about that. It's a topic that's discussed frequently here. This vey subject often comes up without resolve.
In FET there is a phenomenon that coincides with the corriolis effect; celestial gears. Perhaps that's a better place to start. This in turn is explained with AWT (which needs a real explanation still though). These 3 things all work together or are caused by a combination of them.