# Sceptimatics theory

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#### SeekerOfTruth

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##### Re: Sceptimatics theory
« Reply #1890 on: November 01, 2013, 01:42:35 PM »
Also, regarding the tire....

An uninflated tire on a wheel with no vehicle weight on it looks almost the same as a tire inflated to 35psi, meaning it expands very little.  Outside is still 15psi.  There is only slightly more outside surface area exposed to 15psi vs the inside surface area exposed to 35psi.

How is that equalized?
A flat tyre on a rim has the strength of the tyre plus an equalisation of pressure. It's part of the environment it's in. Touch it and it will squash very easily because you are upsetting the balance.

No that is not how tyres work. A flat tire does not let air when its valve is closed. The pressures are not equal, hence there is no balance to begin with.
It doesn't have to let air in when it's valve is closed. The sea level atmospheric pressure is already inside it.

Go and open a tyre valve and let all the air out of it. now replace the valve. Now stand on the tyre and you will see that the tyre has air in it, because it's equalised with the outer atmospheric pressure, it's balanced .

If you let all the air out, there will be no air inside to balance. You see not making sense.
You are either taking the urine or you have no clue what you are talking about

I would retort with the same accusation. The pressure will balance only if air can freely flow into and out. If you take a half-filled tyre, and stand on it , the pressure will not in general equal the outside pressure. My god dude, if you weigh enough, you can make the pressure inside GREATER than the outside.

These are BASIC things....so are you full of urine or without a clue?

#### 29silhouette

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##### Re: Sceptimatics theory
« Reply #1891 on: November 01, 2013, 01:45:49 PM »
Also, regarding the tire....

An uninflated tire on a wheel with no vehicle weight on it looks almost the same as a tire inflated to 35psi, meaning it expands very little.  Outside is still 15psi.  There is only slightly more outside surface area exposed to 15psi vs the inside surface area exposed to 35psi.

How is that equalized?
A flat tyre on a rim has the strength of the tyre plus an equalisation of pressure. It's part of the environment it's in. Touch it and it will squash very easily because you are upsetting the balance.
A tire with the valve open is 14.7 inside and out, yep, got that.

My question though that you didn't answer-    how do you consider the inside and outside 'equalized' when the inside is 35, the outside is 15, the difference in inside and outside surface area is minor, and there is very little actual expansion when inflated from 15 to 35?

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#### SeekerOfTruth

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##### Re: Sceptimatics theory
« Reply #1892 on: November 01, 2013, 01:48:59 PM »
Also, regarding the tire....

An uninflated tire on a wheel with no vehicle weight on it looks almost the same as a tire inflated to 35psi, meaning it expands very little.  Outside is still 15psi.  There is only slightly more outside surface area exposed to 15psi vs the inside surface area exposed to 35psi.

How is that equalized?
A flat tyre on a rim has the strength of the tyre plus an equalisation of pressure. It's part of the environment it's in. Touch it and it will squash very easily because you are upsetting the balance.
A tire with the valve open is 14.7 inside and out, yep, got that.

My question though that you didn't answer-    how do you consider the inside and outside 'equalized' when the inside is 35, the outside is 15, the difference in inside and outside surface area is minor, and there is very little actual expansion when inflated from 15 to 35?

They most certainly are not equal, I assure you.

#### Junker

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##### Re: Sceptimatics theory
« Reply #1893 on: November 01, 2013, 06:18:58 PM »

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#### 11cookeaw1

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« Reply #1894 on: November 01, 2013, 10:14:25 PM »

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#### SeekerOfTruth

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##### Re: Sceptimatics theory
« Reply #1895 on: November 02, 2013, 01:00:19 AM »

http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php/topic,60071.0.html
http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php/topic,59240.0.html
Okay just answer these two links. You haven't even responded yo these two yet.
SO SCEPTI CANNOT ANSWER THIS EVIDENCE! I WIN! TAKE THAT SCEPTI!

Yeah, well, I am still waiting for Sandokhan to address the last post I made in one of those thread links you cited. Maybe you and I should have a back-and-forth, since we both tend to respond to queries. I shall start:

A variable UA could account for the Eotvos effect, if it was constructed properly, perhaps.

Furthermore, you are a nincompoop! (just trying to blend in here on this forum. Success?  ).

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#### 11cookeaw1

##### Re: Sceptimatics theory
« Reply #1896 on: November 02, 2013, 01:43:16 AM »
The Estvos effect is caused by motion. I don't see how a variable UA could cause changed gravity on different parts of a ship.

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#### 11cookeaw1

##### Re: Sceptimatics theory
« Reply #1897 on: November 02, 2013, 01:51:02 AM »
Also Scepti, why is it so "Blatantly obvious" that dust can't exist in space.

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#### EarthIsASpaceship

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##### Re: Sceptimatics theory
« Reply #1898 on: November 05, 2013, 07:26:07 AM »
SO SCEPTI CANNOT ANSWER THIS EVIDENCE! I WIN! TAKE THAT SCEPTI!
Give us a break please.  And while you're at it, grow up.  This is not a game.

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#### SeekerOfTruth

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##### Re: Sceptimatics theory
« Reply #1899 on: November 05, 2013, 08:05:21 AM »
The Estvos effect is caused by motion. I don't see how a variable UA could cause changed gravity on different parts of a ship.

Hmmm, yes well a variable UA would have to be rather complicated and perhaps contrived to explain it. This effect my require a separate description in FET.

#### DuckDodgers

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##### Re: Sceptimatics theory
« Reply #1900 on: November 05, 2013, 09:42:13 AM »
The Estvos effect is caused by motion. I don't see how a variable UA could cause changed gravity on different parts of a ship.

Hmmm, yes well a variable UA would have to be rather complicated and perhaps contrived to explain it. This effect my require a separate description in FET.
A variable UA effect could potentially be created due to contours on the bottom of the Earth creating small disturbances similar to the large disturbance and wake caused by the Earth as a whole.
markjo, what force can not pass through a solid or liquid?
Magnetism for one and electric is the other.

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#### SeekerOfTruth

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##### Re: Sceptimatics theory
« Reply #1901 on: November 05, 2013, 09:45:31 AM »
The Estvos effect is caused by motion. I don't see how a variable UA could cause changed gravity on different parts of a ship.

Hmmm, yes well a variable UA would have to be rather complicated and perhaps contrived to explain it. This effect my require a separate description in FET.
A variable UA effect could potentially be created due to contours on the bottom of the Earth creating small disturbances similar to the large disturbance and wake caused by the Earth as a whole.

What is this wake you speak of?

#### DuckDodgers

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##### Re: Sceptimatics theory
« Reply #1902 on: November 05, 2013, 09:54:02 AM »
The Estvos effect is caused by motion. I don't see how a variable UA could cause changed gravity on different parts of a ship.

Hmmm, yes well a variable UA would have to be rather complicated and perhaps contrived to explain it. This effect my require a separate description in FET.
A variable UA effect could potentially be created due to contours on the bottom of the Earth creating small disturbances similar to the large disturbance and wake caused by the Earth as a whole.

What is this wake you speak of?
This isn't really the place to get into it since it is scepti's thread.  But the quick explanation is the UA is blocked by the Earth and reforms at a distance above the surface, which is the approximate location of the Sun and moon (presumably the planets as well).  The blocking and reforming is the wake that I'm referring to.

Again, this is scepti' s thread and as such is not the right place to get into this discussion.
markjo, what force can not pass through a solid or liquid?
Magnetism for one and electric is the other.

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#### 11cookeaw1

##### Re: Sceptimatics theory
« Reply #1903 on: November 06, 2013, 03:08:35 AM »

http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php/topic,60071.0.html
http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php/topic,59240.0.html
Okay just answer these two links. You haven't even responded yo these two yet.
Okay let me make this easier for you Sceptimatic by telling you what these are. The first is the Estov effect. An effect where objects travelling in the same direction as the earth rotates weighing less then objects travelling in the opposite direction due to centrifugal forces.
The second one is where someone DOES AN EXPERIMENT finds that they are able to see less of a mountain at further distances due to the earth's curvature.