Which of the two videos represent the truth

Quote from: markjo on May 10, 2013, 06:05:26 PM

I think that the first thing that bendy light theorists need to explain is exactly what phenomena bendy light is supposed to explain.  If they can explain why there is a need for light to bend, then maybe bendy light theory might make a little more progress and get a little less ridicule.

We don't need you to remind us of your permanoob status.  I don't demand answers from Globularists.  Why do you make demands on us?

I didn't make any demands, I made a suggestion. 

Quote from: Lolflatdisc on May 11, 2013, 05:50:24 AM

Quote from: jroa on May 11, 2013, 02:42:18 AM

Quote from: markjo on May 10, 2013, 06:05:26 PM

I think that the first thing that bendy light theorists need to explain is exactly what phenomena bendy light is supposed to explain.  If they can explain why there is a need for light to bend, then maybe bendy light theory might make a little more progress and get a little less ridicule.

We don't need you to remind us of your permanoob status.  I don't demand answers from Globularists.  Why do you make demands on us?

May I remind you Jroa that you promised to come with answers to the fundamental errors I showed you? So far I have not seen any answers. Sometimes...yes, there were some sort of answers, but went unexplained... Tausumi (!). Then answers which should support the FET, but then are under development and the tenor is "We don't yet know exactly how it is suppose to work, but...it has to be like that!" Is that the sort of "open-minded" debate there should be?

I gave you answers.  How many answers do you want?

Answers which actually have been proven to be true. Not some answers you don't yet know of how it works, or answers which contradict real life observations. Answers which have been proven.

Quote from: jroa on May 11, 2013, 10:42:13 AM

Quote from: Lolflatdisc on May 11, 2013, 05:50:24 AM

Quote from: jroa on May 11, 2013, 02:42:18 AM

Quote from: markjo on May 10, 2013, 06:05:26 PM

I think that the first thing that bendy light theorists need to explain is exactly what phenomena bendy light is supposed to explain.  If they can explain why there is a need for light to bend, then maybe bendy light theory might make a little more progress and get a little less ridicule.

We don't need you to remind us of your permanoob status.  I don't demand answers from Globularists.  Why do you make demands on us?

May I remind you Jroa that you promised to come with answers to the fundamental errors I showed you? So far I have not seen any answers. Sometimes...yes, there were some sort of answers, but went unexplained... Tausumi (!). Then answers which should support the FET, but then are under development and the tenor is "We don't yet know exactly how it is suppose to work, but...it has to be like that!" Is that the sort of "open-minded" debate there should be?

I gave you answers.  How many answers do you want?

Answers which actually have been proven to be true. Not some answers you don't yet know of how it works, or answers which contradict real life observations. Answers which have been proven.

Well, I don't know if we have any. That doesn't really mean anything though, it just means we don't have any answers yet. We have ideas and such, and we are working on them.

Well, I don't know if we have any. That doesn't really mean anything though, it just means we don't have any answers yet. We have ideas and such, and we are working on them.

So the spherical earth is actually the only true answer? Not the permanent answer, but the most plausible, given all the real life observations and the fact that it provides answers for all the questions so far. Can we agree on that?

Quote from: mbone99 on May 11, 2013, 02:38:50 PM

Well, I don't know if we have any. That doesn't really mean anything though, it just means we don't have any answers yet. We have ideas and such, and we are working on them.

So the spherical earth is actually the only true answer? Not the permanent answer, but the most plausible, given all the real life observations and the fact that it provides answers for all the questions so far. Can we agree on that?

In what way did you derive that from my answer? The round earth doesn't have a ton of answers. Gravity- theory. etc.

You do have more than us, but that doesn't make it more plausible.

Quote from: Lolflatdisc on May 11, 2013, 02:58:31 PM

Quote from: mbone99 on May 11, 2013, 02:38:50 PM

Well, I don't know if we have any. That doesn't really mean anything though, it just means we don't have any answers yet. We have ideas and such, and we are working on them.

So the spherical earth is actually the only true answer? Not the permanent answer, but the most plausible, given all the real life observations and the fact that it provides answers for all the questions so far. Can we agree on that?

In what way did you derive that from my answer? The round earth doesn't have a ton of answers. Gravity- theory. etc.

You do have more than us, but that doesn't make it more plausible.

Seems like it is all sorted out in the RET, with no contradictions thus far.

What way I derive that from your answer?

In court:
Prosecutor (RET): You are guilty (The earth is round)
Defense (FET): No I am innocent (No, the earth is flat)
Prosecutor (RET): I have all the evidence here, explain yourself (Here are all sorts of problems with the FET, explain it please)
Defense (FET): I can't (I can't)
Prosecutor (RET): Judge, based on all of the evidence the suspect is guilty (Look, based on all the evidence the earth is round).

Judge: Suspect is found to be guilty (Earth is found to be round).

Quote from: mbone99 on May 11, 2013, 03:01:22 PM

Quote from: Lolflatdisc on May 11, 2013, 02:58:31 PM

Quote from: mbone99 on May 11, 2013, 02:38:50 PM

Well, I don't know if we have any. That doesn't really mean anything though, it just means we don't have any answers yet. We have ideas and such, and we are working on them.

So the spherical earth is actually the only true answer? Not the permanent answer, but the most plausible, given all the real life observations and the fact that it provides answers for all the questions so far. Can we agree on that?

In what way did you derive that from my answer? The round earth doesn't have a ton of answers. Gravity- theory. etc.

You do have more than us, but that doesn't make it more plausible.

Seems like it is all sorted out in the RET, with no contradictions thus far.

What way I derive that from your answer?

In court:
Prosecutor (RET): You are guilty (The earth is round)
Defense (FET): No I am innocent (No, the earth is flat)
Prosecutor (RET): I have all the evidence here, explain yourself (Here are all sorts of problems with the FET, explain it please)
Defense (FET): I can't (I can't)
Prosecutor (RET): Judge, based on all of the evidence the suspect is guilty (Look, based on all the evidence the earth is round).

Judge: Suspect is found to be guilty (Earth is found to be round).

Based on what they know, the earth is round. However, later knowledge proves FE right, and the judgement is overturned.

Based on what they know, the earth is round. However, later knowledge proves FE right, and the judgement is overturned.

Perhaps, but the fundamental errors need to be explained, otherwise the FET has no chance of succeeding.

Quote from: mbone99 on May 11, 2013, 03:33:37 PM

Based on what they know, the earth is round. However, later knowledge proves FE right, and the judgement is overturned.

Perhaps, but the fundamental errors need to be explained, otherwise the FET has no chance of succeeding.

This is true in a court system. But I still believe Flat Earth and will continue to help the theory and give us more evidence and details to work with.

This is true in a court system. But I still believe Flat Earth and will continue to help the theory and give us more evidence and details to work with.

Suit yourself. I will wait for you to publish your research results, so it can get peer-reviewed and accepted globally. Untill then, the round earth is for me indefinitely proved.

Quote from: mbone99 on May 11, 2013, 03:39:21 PM

This is true in a court system. But I still believe Flat Earth and will continue to help the theory and give us more evidence and details to work with.

Suit yourself. I will wait for you to publish your research results, so it can get peer-reviewed and accepted globally. Untill then, the round earth is for me indefinitely proved.

There is an overwhelming amount of evidence that supports the FET.  You do not care to accept any of it, and that is fine.  Don't claim the evidence is not there, though. 

Quote from: Lolflatdisc on May 11, 2013, 03:41:47 PM

Quote from: mbone99 on May 11, 2013, 03:39:21 PM

This is true in a court system. But I still believe Flat Earth and will continue to help the theory and give us more evidence and details to work with.

Suit yourself. I will wait for you to publish your research results, so it can get peer-reviewed and accepted globally. Untill then, the round earth is for me indefinitely proved.

There is an overwhelming amount of evidence that supports the FET.  You do not care to accept any of it, and that is fine.  Don't claim the evidence is not there, though.

I asked you for it, but not a single evidence was given...just to show you...give me one piece of the allegded evidence and I will disproof it or show where the problem is.

There is an overwhelming amount of evidence that supports the FET.

What evidence? I still haven't seen anything conclusive, just a lot of ambiguity that gets passed off as proof, despite the fact it tells us nothing.

     After really observing in depth all of the posting on this topic, I have come to a very quick conclusion regarding the aetheric wind theory as well as what bendy light explains.  There is a book that NASA had approved of back in the 90's.  It runs by the name of The Scole Reports.  This book proves life after death through Catholic mediumship as well as the existence of a substance or energy called ether.  The existence of this substance stands as the perfect segue to the reality of God and spirits, as well as FE science.
     The tendency of light bending due to gravity would behave in this particular way:  The spherical earth over long distances would appear flat, and the flat earth would appear curved and spherical.  We have to assume that the particles of light can only be bent once as it approaches the observing eye and hits the cones and rods of the retina for analysis...  This explains some of the satellite phenomena that is observed.  It appears curved because of malleable light beams.  Thus, the earth stands a flat surface.  This applies to long distance images over entire continents.  The angle of bending on the photographs needs to be calculated completely.  There might not be enough bend to account for the 24,901 mile circumference of an assumed spherical earth.  I might attach some pictures later on that explain the particular way that we can expect light to bend.

The name of the book that I bought was "The Scole Experiments" by Jane and Grant Solomon.  I had to be more specific...

The name of the book that I bought was "The Scole Experiments" by Jane and Grant Solomon.  I had to be more specific...

  What does life after death have to do with the shape of the earth?

It has everything to do with the topic.  Ether's existence has been validated.  From this important piece of info, we can deduce that the earth most certainly is a vast, irregular plane...  The seasons can be proven to exist as well as every contrived notion on a flat earth.  It just takes deep soul searching and introspection with scientific data.