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« on: October 15, 2006, 10:06:23 PM »
k...so the flat earth accepts that there is no gravity at all...only a universal accelerator right? so how exactly do tides work?

any theories?

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« Reply #1 on: October 15, 2006, 10:07:33 PM »
ahhh fuk that....stupid goddam FAQ...

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Q: "What about tides?"

A: The tides exist due to a slight see-saw effect on the earth. As it goes back and forth, the water rushes to the side that is lower. Note, this is a very slight wobble. Remember, these wobbles are created by very minor earthquakes. They keep the tides in check. Notice that large earthquakes result in large tides or "tsunami".

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« Reply #2 on: October 15, 2006, 10:18:01 PM »
Quote from: "woopedazz"
ahhh fuk that....stupid goddam FAQ...

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Q: "What about tides?"

A: The tides exist due to a slight see-saw effect on the earth. As it goes back and forth, the water rushes to the side that is lower. Note, this is a very slight wobble. Remember, these wobbles are created by very minor earthquakes. They keep the tides in check. Notice that large earthquakes result in large tides or "tsunami".


It still doesn't make sense. If the "wobbles" are due to earthquakes, why is the tide regulary while earthquakes happen at chaotic frequencies?

And for that matter, since the source of the tides are earth quakes, why is it that the moon will always be in the same spot as the tide rises and recedes? They have nothing to do with each other right? So why can both phenomenons be correlated perfectly?
atttttttup was right when he said joseph bloom is right, The Engineer is a douchebag.

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« Reply #3 on: October 15, 2006, 10:32:43 PM »
Pwned! They will make up some bullshit excuse, just wait for it.
he earth is a cube!

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« Reply #4 on: October 15, 2006, 11:32:46 PM »
Quote from: "Earthisround99"
Pwned! They will make up some bullshit excuse, just wait for it.


I AM curious to see how this can be explained.
atttttttup was right when he said joseph bloom is right, The Engineer is a douchebag.

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« Reply #5 on: October 16, 2006, 01:14:07 AM »
They will say something like,

'The sea is part of the conspiracy.'
quote="Dogplatter"]
Penguins were actually created in the 1960's by Russian scientists who combined the DNA of otters and birds.  [/quote]


LOL

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« Reply #6 on: October 16, 2006, 01:23:58 AM »
The simple fact is, is that if there is a power so great that it can make an illogically huge wall of ice that doesnt collapse, doesnt melt, and contain all the atmosphere in it etc, they would be also able to make tides happen. More than likely through a series of vent and turbine systems on the ocean floor, similar to how an artificial wave pool works.

Still a pretty silly concept, the whole flat earth thing, but we do have a lot of artificial technologies that on a large scale could manipulate planetry functions.
f you seriously believe that the Earth is flat, go get a CAT scan and book yourself in for some good ol' immediate Endoscopic Brain Tumor Surgery.

otherwise, its a great joke you have going

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« Reply #7 on: October 16, 2006, 08:48:06 AM »
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Still a pretty silly concept, the whole flat earth thing, but we do have a lot of artificial technologies that on a large scale could manipulate planetry functions


Yes, except that earthquakes still happened when technology was pretty much non-existant :). or when there wer no humnas for that matter.
atttttttup was right when he said joseph bloom is right, The Engineer is a douchebag.

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« Reply #8 on: October 16, 2006, 09:32:52 AM »
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Still a pretty silly concept, the whole flat earth thing, but we do have a lot of artificial technologies that on a large scale could manipulate planetry functions


Yes, except that earthquakes still happened when technology was pretty much non-existant :). or when there wer no humnas for that matter.

Aliens, dude.

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« Reply #9 on: October 16, 2006, 09:50:47 AM »
This is an easy one, most of the FE'ers(Hillbillies/Rednecks) don't ever leave their town.
Obviously what you don't see doesn't exist.

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« Reply #10 on: October 16, 2006, 06:13:03 PM »
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Quote from: "phaseshifter"
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Still a pretty silly concept, the whole flat earth thing, but we do have a lot of artificial technologies that on a large scale could manipulate planetry functions


Yes, except that earthquakes still happened when technology was pretty much non-existant :). or when there wer no humnas for that matter.

Aliens, dude.


Come here  I'm gonna slap you .
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« Reply #11 on: October 16, 2006, 06:18:40 PM »
How do you know Earthquakes happened when there were no humans around?

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« Reply #12 on: October 16, 2006, 07:11:22 PM »
Quote from: "phaseshifter"
It still doesn't make sense. If the "wobbles" are due to earthquakes, why is the tide regulary while earthquakes happen at chaotic frequencies?

The earthquakes don't happen at chaotic frequencies; they happen at very regular frequencies.

Note that the FAQ made a point of saying very minor earthquakes. These happen daily, at such a frequency so as to stimulate the tides, and are undetected otherwise. Much larger earthquakes happen at irregular intervals. These are the ones you hear about, and so are the ones you associate with the term "earthquakes". We aren't talking about the big ones, we are talking about the small ones you don't hear about.

Those are the ones that cause the tides, and those are the ones that happen regularly. The FAQ was actually pretty good about making this distinction.

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« Reply #13 on: October 16, 2006, 10:41:09 PM »
Quote from: "Unimportant"
Quote from: "phaseshifter"
It still doesn't make sense. If the "wobbles" are due to earthquakes, why is the tide regulary while earthquakes happen at chaotic frequencies?

The earthquakes don't happen at chaotic frequencies; they happen at very regular frequencies.

Note that the FAQ made a point of saying very minor earthquakes. These happen daily, at such a frequency so as to stimulate the tides, and are undetected otherwise. Much larger earthquakes happen at irregular intervals. These are the ones you hear about, and so are the ones you associate with the term "earthquakes". We aren't talking about the big ones, we are talking about the small ones you don't hear about.

Those are the ones that cause the tides, and those are the ones that happen regularly. The FAQ was actually pretty good about making this distinction.


Ok, So if those earthquakes are undetectable, how could we tell that they're regular?

And that STILL doesn't explain why the tide correlates perfectly with the movements of the moon.
atttttttup was right when he said joseph bloom is right, The Engineer is a douchebag.

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« Reply #14 on: October 17, 2006, 04:08:26 AM »
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Ok, So if those earthquakes are undetectable, how could we tell that they're regular?

And that STILL doesn't explain why the tide correlates perfectly with the movements of the moon.


well they never said that they aren't detectable, its just minor tremors that don't cause buildings to fall over, and so we don't here about them on the news.

perhaps the moon has amazing properties? and wherever it beams down it causes some freaky kind of earthquake at that spot?

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« Reply #15 on: October 17, 2006, 07:37:04 AM »
You see, the earth is infinitlly large. We live on it centrally. The part that we live on rocks a little, because it is surrounded by water, within a cradle. On the outside of this cradle, the earth extends horizontally to the sky line and this part of the earth does not move at all. The part that we live on also rocks because of the source of heat which is directly underneath us. Heat rises, everybody knows this.  :o  Now this part which we live on is also infinitly large and deep. Sort of like an earth within an earth. Now only God could have made such a large section of earth to rock so slightly and perfectly in order to cause the tides. Measure all the tides at the same time for 10 days and you will have a good idea of the movement of the earth. Don't forget, tides are not increases or rising water, they are a rocking firmament, within the earth :!:. It is not necessarilly rocking left and right only though, its' rocking pattern will be determined by the gathered measurements after 10 days of measurements. :roll:
We were given a firmament to live on because in the beginning "the earth was void" :shock: , gaseous, and liquid. There was nothing to stand upon without sinking or falling into deepnessee aaaaaaahhhhhh :cry: for ever and ever. So let's thank God for the Firmament :!:   :lol: [emoticon thanking God] And don't think that I am only talking to emoticons.  :evil:
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« Reply #16 on: October 17, 2006, 10:45:16 AM »
Quote from: "beast"
How do you know Earthquakes happened when there were no humans around?


Aside from the fact that the cause of earthquakes existed before humans did, and that the surface of the earth has changed but little since the arrival of humans, so it's logical to conclude that the same causal forces and the same conditions at the surface might result in the same outcoe, earthquakes, earthquakes leave geological evidence, as to the tsunami they sometimes create.  Evidence that predates the existance of mankind.

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« Reply #17 on: October 17, 2006, 10:47:19 AM »
Quote from: "Raa"
You see, the earth is infinitlly large. We live on it centrally. The part that we live on rocks a little, because it is surrounded by water, within a cradle. On the outside of this cradle, the earth extends horizontally to the sky line and this part of the earth does not move at all. The part that we live on also rocks because of the source of heat which is directly underneath us. Heat rises, everybody knows this.  :o  Now this part which we live on is also infinitly large and deep. Sort of like an earth within an earth. Now only God could have made such a large section of earth to rock so slightly and perfectly in order to cause the tides. Measure all the tides at the same time for 10 days and you will have a good idea of the movement of the earth. Don't forget, tides are not increases or rising water, they are a rocking firmament, within the earth :!:. It is not necessarilly rocking left and right only though, its' rocking pattern will be determined by the gathered measurements after 10 days of measurements. :roll:
We were given a firmament to live on because in the beginning "the earth was void" :shock: , gaseous, and liquid. There was nothing to stand upon without sinking or falling into deepnessee aaaaaaahhhhhh :cry: for ever and ever. So let's thank God for the Firmament :!:   :lol: [emoticon thanking God] And don't think that I am only talking to emoticons.  :evil:



Demonstrate a proof that the earth's land surface, that we live on, is buoyed in water, and rocks in that water, rather than the postulate that the  surface of the earth is solid, and that water resides on top of that.

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« Reply #18 on: October 17, 2006, 10:49:46 AM »
Quote from: "Unimportant"
Quote from: "phaseshifter"
It still doesn't make sense. If the "wobbles" are due to earthquakes, why is the tide regulary while earthquakes happen at chaotic frequencies?

The earthquakes don't happen at chaotic frequencies; they happen at very regular frequencies.

Note that the FAQ made a point of saying very minor earthquakes. These happen daily, at such a frequency so as to stimulate the tides, and are undetected otherwise. Much larger earthquakes happen at irregular intervals. These are the ones you hear about, and so are the ones you associate with the term "earthquakes". We aren't talking about the big ones, we are talking about the small ones you don't hear about.

Those are the ones that cause the tides, and those are the ones that happen regularly. The FAQ was actually pretty good about making this distinction.


BUt the daily tremors don't posess enough force to account for the tides.

Force needs to be employed, and especially, force with enough regularity to both force the wayter in one direction, then slow, stop, accelerate in the opposite direction, ever 12 hours.

The force required for this to happen is not released by the combined tectonic action of the earth on an average day.

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« Reply #19 on: October 17, 2006, 02:10:11 PM »
Quote from: "Slorrin"
The force required for this to happen is not released by the combined tectonic action of the earth on an average day.

At some point you are going to have to recognize that claims such as these aren't considered valid in the context of the FE discussion. You can say things like this - and it could be that in "real life" it is true - but without proof we have no reason to believe you.

You saying "The force required for this to happen is not released by the combined tectonic action of the earth on an average day" carries no more inherent validity than if I were to say "The force required for this to happen is in fact released by the combined tectonic action of the earth on an average day."

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« Reply #20 on: October 18, 2006, 12:22:17 AM »
Let me answer your good question quickly and then I can answer in detail if need be. Genesis verses, 2, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10. verse 2; water and earth were and are twins [born at the same time] . verse 9; all the waters on the earth were gathered within the cradle around the dry earth; we live on top of this dry earth and the oceans and seas which we are familiar with, like the Pacific Ocean, are also on top of the dry earth, and we are above the major quantity of water which is in the cradle. The cradle is too large to measure, and then the earth around the cradle is much too large to measure. I haven't demonstated a proof yet because this is something which I have learned and not discovered. It might take me a few days to demonstrate a proof to you (about this). I will enjoy this thought for the next few days. It is a good challenge.
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You see, the earth is infinitlly large. We live on it centrally. The part that we live on rocks a little, because it is surrounded by water, within a cradle. On the outside of this cradle, the earth extends horizontally to the sky line and this part of the earth does not move at all. The part that we live on also rocks because of the source of heat which is directly underneath us. Heat rises, everybody knows this.  :o  Now this part which we live on is also infinitly large and deep. Sort of like an earth within an earth. Now only God could have made such a large section of earth to rock so slightly and perfectly in order to cause the tides. Measure all the tides at the same time for 10 days and you will have a good idea of the movement of the earth. Don't forget, tides are not increases or rising water, they are a rocking firmament, within the earth :!:. It is not necessarilly rocking left and right only though, its' rocking pattern will be determined by the gathered measurements after 10 days of measurements. :roll:
We were given a firmament to live on because in the beginning "the earth was void" :shock: , gaseous, and liquid. There was nothing to stand upon without sinking or falling into deepnessee aaaaaaahhhhhh :cry: for ever and ever. So let's thank God for the Firmament :!:   :lol: [emoticon thanking God] And don't think that I am only talking to emoticons.  :evil:



Demonstrate a proof that the earth's land surface, that we live on, is buoyed in water, and rocks in that water, rather than the postulate that the  surface of the earth is solid, and that water resides on top of that.
Everything, is in EMBRYO, not in mathematics. 
Please look at the 1/4 moon when it's around at noon ; We cannot see anything between it and the sun.

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« Reply #21 on: October 18, 2006, 12:48:39 AM »
It is possible to measure tides while considering that the earth rocks, currents included, though the conclusion would only be numbers, but if you measured the tide causing movement of waters instead, you would run out of mathematical equations and the final answer would be "We couldn't understand if a post-tide underwater current would change the level of the tide in Hawaii!" Re-read my post because your question is like...  2=3-1 rather than 1.5+.5
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Quote from: "Raa"
You see, the earth is infinitlly large. We live on it centrally. The part that we live on rocks a little, because it is surrounded by water, within a cradle. On the outside of this cradle, the earth extends horizontally to the sky line and this part of the earth does not move at all. The part that we live on also rocks because of the source of heat which is directly underneath us. Heat rises, everybody knows this.  :o  Now this part which we live on is also infinitly large and deep. Sort of like an earth within an earth. Now only God could have made such a large section of earth to rock so slightly and perfectly in order to cause the tides. Measure all the tides at the same time for 10 days and you will have a good idea of the movement of the earth. Don't forget, tides are not increases or rising water, they are a rocking firmament, within the earth :!:. It is not necessarilly rocking left and right only though, its' rocking pattern will be determined by the gathered measurements after 10 days of measurements. :roll:
We were given a firmament to live on because in the beginning "the earth was void" :shock: , gaseous, and liquid. There was nothing to stand upon without sinking or falling into deepnessee aaaaaaahhhhhh :cry: for ever and ever. So let's thank God for the Firmament :!:   :lol: [emoticon thanking God] And don't think that I am only talking to emoticons.  :evil:



Demonstrate a proof that the earth's land surface, that we live on, is buoyed in water, and rocks in that water, rather than the postulate that the  surface of the earth is solid, and that water resides on top of that.
Everything, is in EMBRYO, not in mathematics. 
Please look at the 1/4 moon when it's around at noon ; We cannot see anything between it and the sun.

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« Reply #22 on: October 31, 2009, 04:19:24 PM »
are tides a decrease or increase of water on a universal understanding. of course measuring instruments tell us directly whether it is increasing or decreasing but that is only because that measuring instrument only has those 2 options for an answer, like a computer or robot; a man put all its' answers into it.
Everything, is in EMBRYO, not in mathematics. 
Please look at the 1/4 moon when it's around at noon ; We cannot see anything between it and the sun.