The Creation of a Flat Earth

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The Creation of a Flat Earth
« on: April 11, 2013, 11:05:31 AM »
Does FET have a creation story? How does FET account for how the world was created into a disk? This leads me to another question, is Earth the only flat thing in the solar system, or are the Sun, Moon, other planets, etc also disk-like? Gravity is not only the thing in RET that keeps everything down, it is also the paramount rationale for the shape of the planets.

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« Last Edit: April 11, 2013, 01:41:30 PM by Genius »
The earth is round because the space man said so.

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Re: The Creation of a Flat Earth
« Reply #2 on: April 11, 2013, 01:51:56 PM »
It has always been
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Re: The Creation of a Flat Earth
« Reply #3 on: April 11, 2013, 03:17:27 PM »
the Earth?

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Re: The Creation of a Flat Earth
« Reply #4 on: April 11, 2013, 03:40:03 PM »
It is a well-known fact that the sun consists of a quark gluon plasma  :-\
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Re: The Creation of a Flat Earth
« Reply #5 on: April 15, 2013, 11:32:52 AM »
the Earth?

The infinite earth, yes;  Though religious texts lately have made me question the nature of this, and of its role in time.  Can we have a creation story if time is meaningless? 
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Re: The Creation of a Flat Earth
« Reply #6 on: April 15, 2013, 11:35:21 AM »
Considering the role of the story is to create meaning, then why not?  It may be arbitrary, but then aren't all religious texts?
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Re: The Creation of a Flat Earth
« Reply #7 on: April 15, 2013, 12:53:05 PM »
This is pure speculation, but nature has been observed creating perfect discs of ice in rivers.

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Rama Set

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Re: The Creation of a Flat Earth
« Reply #8 on: April 15, 2013, 12:59:25 PM »
What does perfect mean in this context?  As perfect as the Hubble mirror?
Aether is the  characteristic of action or inaction of charged  & noncharged particals.

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Re: The Creation of a Flat Earth
« Reply #9 on: April 15, 2013, 01:04:53 PM »
What does perfect mean in this context?  As perfect as the Hubble mirror?

I don't mean a geometrically perfect circle, of course. The ice discs I'm referring to are precise and notable enough to be featured in journals and such. See this Wikipedia article.

Re: The Creation of a Flat Earth
« Reply #10 on: April 15, 2013, 01:12:34 PM »
This is pure speculation, but nature has been observed creating perfect discs of ice in rivers.

Those disks also rotate  :-X

(Edit: In fact, the rotation is believed to be the cause. Can't imagine a scenario where that helps the motionless Flat Earth Theory)
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Rama Set

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Re: The Creation of a Flat Earth
« Reply #11 on: April 15, 2013, 01:13:07 PM »
Very cool.
Aether is the  characteristic of action or inaction of charged  & noncharged particals.

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Re: The Creation of a Flat Earth
« Reply #12 on: April 15, 2013, 01:15:17 PM »
This is pure speculation, but nature has been observed creating perfect discs of ice in rivers.
I'd hardly call those "perfect" discs.
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Arctangent

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Re: The Creation of a Flat Earth
« Reply #13 on: April 15, 2013, 01:18:28 PM »
This is pure speculation, but nature has been observed creating perfect discs of ice in rivers.

Those disks also rotate  :-X

Presumably they also cease to rotate after a period of time.

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Re: The Creation of a Flat Earth
« Reply #14 on: April 15, 2013, 01:20:21 PM »
This is pure speculation, but nature has been observed creating perfect discs of ice in rivers.
I'd hardly call those "perfect" discs.


That's a picture of a distinct phenomenon called "ice pans." Here are a few pictures of ice discs:




Re: The Creation of a Flat Earth
« Reply #15 on: April 15, 2013, 01:23:15 PM »
This is pure speculation, but nature has been observed creating perfect discs of ice in rivers.
I'd hardly call those "perfect" discs.


That's a picture of a distinct phenomenon called "ice pans." Here are a few pictures of ice discs:





It's at this point in time that someone claims that these photographs are clearly faked in Pro-FET propaganda.

Re: The Creation of a Flat Earth
« Reply #16 on: April 15, 2013, 01:24:47 PM »
This is pure speculation, but nature has been observed creating perfect discs of ice in rivers.

Those disks also rotate  :-X

Presumably they also cease to rotate after a period of time.

What makes you think they cease to rotate?

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Arctangent

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Re: The Creation of a Flat Earth
« Reply #17 on: April 15, 2013, 01:24:56 PM »
It's at this point in time that someone claims that these photographs are clearly faked in Pro-FET propaganda.

My post was pure speculation, anyway. Even if one doesn't hold to a flat Earth model, it's still a pretty cool phenomenon.

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Re: The Creation of a Flat Earth
« Reply #18 on: April 15, 2013, 01:27:54 PM »
This is pure speculation, but nature has been observed creating perfect discs of ice in rivers.

Those disks also rotate  :-X

Presumably they also cease to rotate after a period of time.

What makes you think they cease to rotate?

What makes you think they incessantly rotate? The water resists the rotation of the ice circle, anyway. It makes sense that it'd eventually come to rest.

Re: The Creation of a Flat Earth
« Reply #19 on: April 15, 2013, 01:48:31 PM »
This is becoming really silly. Just accept the fact that God made infinite earth, its not meant for us to figure out how he did it.  Simple approach and trusting God is best.
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Re: The Creation of a Flat Earth
« Reply #20 on: April 15, 2013, 01:50:09 PM »
This is becoming really silly. Just accept the fact that God made infinite earth, its not meant for us to figure out how he did it.  Simple approach and trusting God is best.

While I'm pretty sure you're a troll, I'll still argue with you. Why should we axiomatically accept something that can be scrutinized further?

Re: The Creation of a Flat Earth
« Reply #21 on: April 15, 2013, 01:54:33 PM »
This is becoming really silly. Just accept the fact that God made infinite earth, its not meant for us to figure out how he did it.  Simple approach and trusting God is best.

While I'm pretty sure you're a troll, I'll still argue with you. Why should we axiomatically accept something that can be scrutinized further?


Listen noob, I'm not a troll, you on the other hand has been posting your nerdy ass comments on every thread, proving absolutely nothing with your stupid ass science lol
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Re: The Creation of a Flat Earth
« Reply #22 on: April 15, 2013, 02:01:32 PM »
This is becoming really silly. Just accept the fact that God made infinite earth, its not meant for us to figure out how he did it.  Simple approach and trusting God is best.

While I'm pretty sure you're a troll, I'll still argue with you. Why should we axiomatically accept something that can be scrutinized further?


Listen noob, I'm not a troll, you on the other hand has been posting your nerdy ass comments on every thread, proving absolutely nothing with your stupid ass science lol

First of all, I really don't attempt to join the scientific discussions on FES at all, since I'm more interested in the philosophy of it; second of all, posting such parochial appeals to religion as "just accept the fact that God created the infinite earth" is blatantly an attempt to mock the narrow-mindedness of the God of the gaps.

Re: The Creation of a Flat Earth
« Reply #23 on: April 15, 2013, 02:08:23 PM »
God is philosophical subject isn't it? If he didn't create flat earth and if you are not interested in the science of it, then what are you even talking about?
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Re: The Creation of a Flat Earth
« Reply #24 on: April 15, 2013, 02:14:10 PM »
God is philosophical subject isn't it? If he didn't create flat earth and if you are not interested in the science of it, then what are you even talking about?

Yes, and I love learning about theology. I do believe God created the Earth, but, accepting or rejecting that, the mechanism by which the Earth formed is in discussion here.

Re: The Creation of a Flat Earth
« Reply #25 on: April 15, 2013, 10:59:30 PM »
This is becoming really silly. Just accept the fact that God made infinite earth, its not meant for us to figure out how he did it.  Simple approach and trusting God is best.

I'm not going to "just accept" anything that people tell me God did, because otherwise we would be able to sell our daughters into slavery and beat our slaves and not be punished as long as they got up after a couple days.

Re: The Creation of a Flat Earth
« Reply #26 on: April 15, 2013, 11:01:58 PM »


What makes you think they cease to rotate?
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What makes you think they incessantly rotate? The water resists the rotation of the ice circle, anyway. It makes sense that it'd eventually come to rest.
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'Part of the water resists the rotation, but part of the water causes the rotation too. I don't think it would remain a circle if it wasn't spinning, it would erode unevenly from the water. Cool phenomena though, for sure.

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Re: The Creation of a Flat Earth
« Reply #27 on: April 15, 2013, 11:25:09 PM »
This is becoming really silly. Just accept the fact that God made infinite earth, its not meant for us to figure out how he did it.  Simple approach and trusting God is best.

While I'm pretty sure you're a troll, I'll still argue with you. Why should we axiomatically accept something that can be scrutinized further?


Listen noob, I'm not a troll, you on the other hand has been posting your nerdy ass comments on every thread, proving absolutely nothing with your stupid ass science lol

Intelligence scares you, doesn't it.
Scepti, this idiocy needs to stop and it needs to stop right now. You are making a mockery of this fine forum with your poor trolling. You are a complete disgrace.

Re: The Creation of a Flat Earth
« Reply #28 on: April 16, 2013, 12:49:29 AM »
This is becoming really silly. Just accept the fact that God made infinite earth, its not meant for us to figure out how he did it.  Simple approach and trusting God is best.

While I'm pretty sure you're a troll, I'll still argue with you. Why should we axiomatically accept something that can be scrutinized further?


Listen noob, I'm not a troll, you on the other hand has been posting your nerdy ass comments on every thread, proving absolutely nothing with your stupid ass science lol

Intelligence scares you, doesn't it.


Science that has no evidence scares me.
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Re: The Creation of a Flat Earth
« Reply #29 on: April 16, 2013, 12:50:52 AM »
This is becoming really silly. Just accept the fact that God made infinite earth, its not meant for us to figure out how he did it.  Simple approach and trusting God is best.

I'm not going to "just accept" anything that people tell me God did, because otherwise we would be able to sell our daughters into slavery and beat our slaves and not be punished as long as they got up after a couple days.


We do all these things today, its called corporate America.
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