Convention!

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Homesick Martian

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Re: Convention!
« Reply #30 on: March 26, 2013, 07:37:40 AM »
It's depressing, don't you think?  The complete failure of human reasoning.

Two guys are looking at an image:



One of the is a Straight Line theorist (SLt); the other one is a Curved Line theorist (CLt).

CLt: It's obvious that the two lines are curved. It's as clear as daylight.
SLt: No, they're not. The two lines are straight and parallel; it only appears to you that that they are not.
CLt: Look, my eyes are fine and the line curvature is obvious. Are you telling me not to trust my own two eyes?
SLt: I'm telling you that the world around us is not exactly the way our senses and our intuition tells us it is. I'll prove it.

The Straight Line theorist produces a ruler and shows the other guy that the two lines are indeed straight and parallel.

CLt: That proves nothing!
SLt: But I've just showed you with a ruler!
CLt: Rulers are obviously manufactured by companies that want to perpetrate the notion that these lines are straight when it's obvious that it's not. And the government is in on it.
SLt: So you're saying there's a conspiracy to hide the truth.
CLt: Yes.
SLt: Does that mean I'm involved?
CLt: No. You simply don't know any better because you've been indoctrinated to think the lines are straight when your own two eyes tell you differently.
SLt: But science easily explains it!
CLt: Your science is wrong. I'd rather trust my own eyes than your "science".

This is just a joke and should be taken as such.

I never thought about it, but why should I trust a ruler more than my eyes? They are both finite things.

A ruler is a (basic) scientific instrument built to (a) be straight and (b) to measure distances, both within reasonably small margins for error. The human eye is not.

The human eye is an instrument to see the world as it is, built by a millions of years long information evaluating process we call evolution. The ruler is not. So if eye and ruler are in variance, how you know which one is wrong without relying on preassumptions in favor of the ruler, that is, without using one?

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Sculder

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Re: Convention!
« Reply #31 on: March 26, 2013, 08:01:12 AM »
It's depressing, don't you think?  The complete failure of human reasoning.

Two guys are looking at an image:



One of the is a Straight Line theorist (SLt); the other one is a Curved Line theorist (CLt).

CLt: It's obvious that the two lines are curved. It's as clear as daylight.
SLt: No, they're not. The two lines are straight and parallel; it only appears to you that that they are not.
CLt: Look, my eyes are fine and the line curvature is obvious. Are you telling me not to trust my own two eyes?
SLt: I'm telling you that the world around us is not exactly the way our senses and our intuition tells us it is. I'll prove it.

The Straight Line theorist produces a ruler and shows the other guy that the two lines are indeed straight and parallel.

CLt: That proves nothing!
SLt: But I've just showed you with a ruler!
CLt: Rulers are obviously manufactured by companies that want to perpetrate the notion that these lines are straight when it's obvious that it's not. And the government is in on it.
SLt: So you're saying there's a conspiracy to hide the truth.
CLt: Yes.
SLt: Does that mean I'm involved?
CLt: No. You simply don't know any better because you've been indoctrinated to think the lines are straight when your own two eyes tell you differently.
SLt: But science easily explains it!
CLt: Your science is wrong. I'd rather trust my own eyes than your "science".

This is just a joke and should be taken as such.

I never thought about it, but why should I trust a ruler more than my eyes? They are both finite things.

A ruler is a (basic) scientific instrument built to (a) be straight and (b) to measure distances, both within reasonably small margins for error. The human eye is not.

The human eye is an instrument to see the world as it is, built by a millions of years long information evaluating process we call evolution. The ruler is not. So if eye and ruler are in variance, how you know which one is wrong without relying on preassumptions in favor of the ruler, that is, without using one?

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This is just a joke and should be taken as such.

I'm sure someone could come up with a perfectly good explanation why a ruler is more prone to the Hering illusion than the human eye. But I'd probably reject it ;D
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Re: Convention!
« Reply #32 on: March 26, 2013, 10:05:45 AM »
In the end, the Flat Earth Society will need only one convention.

That said, its easier to have a few. 

I'll start a kickstarter for a flat earth society conference in the Knoxville Convention Center or a local venue appropriate to this.   If we get enough cash, we can start organizing our speakers and events etc.

If anyone is truly interested in coordinating this endeavor  I'd appreciate the help as I have zero knowledge on such things and my time here is already pressed.
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Re: Convention!
« Reply #33 on: March 28, 2013, 06:21:16 PM »
hoppy is close enough to Knoxville to make this happen,
and I am sure there is plenty enough cash from the Tshirts for Willmore to make an appearance.


I hope this will become reality.

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Re: Convention!
« Reply #34 on: March 28, 2013, 08:49:37 PM »
If only I lived closer, I'd lend a hand.

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Re: Convention!
« Reply #35 on: March 28, 2013, 08:58:01 PM »
I assure you, I believe FET for purely scientific reasons. My feelings of superiority over you are for completely different reasons.
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