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A bit ridiculous?
« on: March 16, 2013, 03:42:21 AM »
For every single bit of proof that someone throws at you guys you just add onto the conspiracy something even more ridiculous, I went to the very beginning and saw a post about this guy Sailing around Antarctica in 40 days and your explanation  is that they probably sailed around some island! If all companies that offered said cruise where in on the conspiracy (Why should they be?) and all other people who work in places that can unmask this conspiracy then i believe only a small  proportion of the earth wouldn't know the earth is flat, which is of course a lie, And it would mean this isn't a conspiracy at all.

This cant be disproven because this flat earth universe you made up doesn't allow any explanations! Everything that proves it's wrong has been removed like a tumor.

Ridiculous. Seriously you guys need to leave the house, Maybe go to the psychiatrist, or is he in on this conspiracy too?

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Re: A bit ridiculous?
« Reply #1 on: March 16, 2013, 04:03:32 AM »
Well said Aeromuch, +1 from me!

Just for laughs, check out Thork's response on my thread at http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php/topic,57895.0.html
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Re: A bit ridiculous?
« Reply #2 on: March 16, 2013, 04:25:48 AM »
For every single bit of proof that someone throws at you guys you just add onto the conspiracy something even more ridiculous, I went to the very beginning and saw a post about this guy Sailing around Antarctica in 40 days and your explanation  is that they probably sailed around some island! If all companies that offered said cruise where in on the conspiracy (Why should they be?) and all other people who work in places that can unmask this conspiracy then i believe only a small  proportion of the earth wouldn't know the earth is flat, which is of course a lie, And it would mean this isn't a conspiracy at all.

This cant be disproven because this flat earth universe you made up doesn't allow any explanations! Everything that proves it's wrong has been removed like a tumor.

Ridiculous. Seriously you guys need to leave the house, Maybe go to the psychiatrist, or is he in on this conspiracy too?
If you're that irritated, why don't you leave the house.
You go on about a "guy" sailing round Antarctica in 40 days and yet mention "companies" being in on it.
In on what?
Let's just clarify something. Your round earth has virtually most of the southern hemisphere as desolate, or shall I say, "ice and ocean" and yet you think companies are in on a conspiracy just because some guy thinks he's sailed around Antarctica.

It's a big world and we don't get to destinations by putting a foot on a picture of it on a scale map, we have to actually navigate it with our tiny selves in tiny boats like an ant trying to navigate a continent.

You go on about a flat earth not being feasible in many aspects and yet the amount of magical bull crap made up to cover for a rotating globe is supposed to be normal and accepted as fact.
Cobblers.

Sorry i didn't realize that a rotating globe is more ridiculous than the amount  of bull crap you guys have made up, What would the government win with this conspiracy? How the hell does it give them more money and power than a flat earth?

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Re: A bit ridiculous?
« Reply #3 on: March 16, 2013, 06:43:15 AM »
Please read the FAQ.

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Re: A bit ridiculous?
« Reply #4 on: March 16, 2013, 08:44:23 AM »
Also, Scepti, while a valued member of the forum, may be slightly schizophrenic. Don't worry too much about his ramblings.

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Re: A bit ridiculous?
« Reply #5 on: March 16, 2013, 11:50:06 AM »
For every single bit of proof that someone throws at you guys you just add onto the conspiracy something even more ridiculous, I went to the very beginning and saw a post about this guy Sailing around Antarctica in 40 days and your explanation  is that they probably sailed around some island! If all companies that offered said cruise where in on the conspiracy (Why should they be?) and all other people who work in places that can unmask this conspiracy then i believe only a small  proportion of the earth wouldn't know the earth is flat, which is of course a lie, And it would mean this isn't a conspiracy at all.

This cant be disproven because this flat earth universe you made up doesn't allow any explanations! Everything that proves it's wrong has been removed like a tumor.

Ridiculous. Seriously you guys need to leave the house, Maybe go to the psychiatrist, or is he in on this conspiracy too?

Then present a better case for a round Earth. Or are you just here to insult people who share different views?

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Re: A bit ridiculous?
« Reply #6 on: March 16, 2013, 12:03:03 PM »
For every single bit of proof that someone throws at you guys you just add onto the conspiracy something even more ridiculous, I went to the very beginning and saw a post about this guy Sailing around Antarctica in 40 days and your explanation  is that they probably sailed around some island! If all companies that offered said cruise where in on the conspiracy (Why should they be?) and all other people who work in places that can unmask this conspiracy then i believe only a small  proportion of the earth wouldn't know the earth is flat, which is of course a lie, And it would mean this isn't a conspiracy at all.

This cant be disproven because this flat earth universe you made up doesn't allow any explanations! Everything that proves it's wrong has been removed like a tumor.

Ridiculous. Seriously you guys need to leave the house, Maybe go to the psychiatrist, or is he in on this conspiracy too?

Then present a better case for a round Earth. Or are you just here to insult people who share different views?

better case? How can a government, No sorry, All the governments of the world cooperate on hiding the fact that the earth is flat from 7 billion people? Imagine all the companies that would have to be involved, Map making companies, Car companies, Telephone companies (satelites apparently dont exist), Google, Nasa and millions of fricking scientists! For what reason? money? Power? how does a round earth give more of any of this? The governments of the world cant cooperate on world peace and global warming let alone some ridiculous conspiracy that gives no benefit whatsoever.

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Re: A bit ridiculous?
« Reply #7 on: March 16, 2013, 12:20:46 PM »
For every single bit of proof that someone throws at you guys you just add onto the conspiracy something even more ridiculous, I went to the very beginning and saw a post about this guy Sailing around Antarctica in 40 days and your explanation  is that they probably sailed around some island! If all companies that offered said cruise where in on the conspiracy (Why should they be?) and all other people who work in places that can unmask this conspiracy then i believe only a small  proportion of the earth wouldn't know the earth is flat, which is of course a lie, And it would mean this isn't a conspiracy at all.

This cant be disproven because this flat earth universe you made up doesn't allow any explanations! Everything that proves it's wrong has been removed like a tumor.

Ridiculous. Seriously you guys need to leave the house, Maybe go to the psychiatrist, or is he in on this conspiracy too?

Then present a better case for a round Earth. Or are you just here to insult people who share different views?

better case? How can a government, No sorry, All the governments of the world cooperate on hiding the fact that the earth is flat from 7 billion people? Imagine all the companies that would have to be involved, Map making companies, Car companies, Telephone companies (satelites apparently dont exist), Google, Nasa and millions of fricking scientists! For what reason? money? Power? how does a round earth give more of any of this? The governments of the world cant cooperate on world peace and global warming let alone some ridiculous conspiracy that gives no benefit whatsoever.

Yes, a better case. Please demonstrate why every single one of these companies as well as ALL of the world's governments HAVE to be involved. How do you know there are no benefits if you aren't seeing the whole picture?

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Re: A bit ridiculous?
« Reply #8 on: March 16, 2013, 12:33:23 PM »
BEcause not all governments in the world have a space program, Why would they have to lie, They aren't benefiting from this whatsoever! Why should they go along with this conspiracy?

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Re: A bit ridiculous?
« Reply #9 on: March 16, 2013, 12:44:43 PM »
BEcause not all governments in the world have a space program, Why would they have to lie, They aren't benefiting from this whatsoever! Why should they go along with this conspiracy?

What do you base this assumption on? Can you show us?

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Re: A bit ridiculous?
« Reply #10 on: March 16, 2013, 12:47:32 PM »
Again, can you please read the FAQ?  Believe it or not, you're not the first person in the world to have thought of these questions.

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Re: A bit ridiculous?
« Reply #11 on: March 16, 2013, 01:28:42 PM »
BEcause not all governments in the world have a space program, Why would they have to lie, They aren't benefiting from this whatsoever! Why should they go along with this conspiracy?

What do you base this assumption on? Can you show us?

Because some governments dont even have enough money to fund their schools and healthcare let alone a space programme!

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Re: A bit ridiculous?
« Reply #12 on: March 16, 2013, 02:29:44 PM »
Really, read the FAQ. I personally put quite a bit of effort into its creation as did many other membera of the society. It contains the answers you're looking for.

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Re: A bit ridiculous?
« Reply #13 on: March 17, 2013, 02:52:43 AM »
BEcause not all governments in the world have a space program, Why would they have to lie, They aren't benefiting from this whatsoever! Why should they go along with this conspiracy?

What do you base this assumption on? Can you show us?

Because some governments dont even have enough money to fund their schools and healthcare let alone a space programme!


Take a look:
http://theflatearthsociety.org/wiki/index.php?title=Motive_of_the_Conspiracy

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Re: A bit ridiculous?
« Reply #14 on: March 21, 2013, 06:04:27 AM »
Take a look:
http://theflatearthsociety.org/wiki/index.php?title=Motive_of_the_Conspiracy

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The earth is portrayed as round in NASA media because NASA thinks it's round. They are not running a real space program, so they wouldn't know what shape the earth truly takes.
That article is extremely well-written. I might add that even if certain higher-ranking members of NASA were aware of flat-earth, they would have no reason to reveal it. It would be nice if they focused on genuine scientific research rather than wasting billions of our dollars on nonsense. That being said, the world may very well be a safer place for them doing so.

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Re: A bit ridiculous?
« Reply #15 on: April 23, 2013, 03:26:32 PM »
better case? How can a government, No sorry, All the governments of the world cooperate on hiding the fact that the earth is flat from 7 billion people? Imagine all the companies that would have to be involved, Map making companies, Car companies, Telephone companies (satelites apparently dont exist), Google, Nasa and millions of fricking scientists! For what reason? money? Power? how does a round earth give more of any of this? The governments of the world cant cooperate on world peace and global warming let alone some ridiculous conspiracy that gives no benefit whatsoever.

For the most part they believe in it themselves. They aren't doing anything that requires one view or the other.
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Re: A bit ridiculous?
« Reply #16 on: May 02, 2013, 02:23:03 AM »
There is no cruise line offering cruises around Antarctica.  That in itself should torpedo (geddit) your main argument.  It is no more difficult to circumnavigate Antarctica than it is difficult for an ant to crawl around the rim of a dinner plate. The only question is, "why?".  The weather is very treacherous towards the edge of the disk - that is not just a "coincidence".       

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Re: A bit ridiculous?
« Reply #17 on: May 02, 2013, 04:17:12 AM »
There is no cruise line offering cruises around Antarctica.  That in itself should torpedo (geddit) your main argument.  It is no more difficult to circumnavigate Antarctica than it is difficult for an ant to crawl around the rim of a dinner plate. The only question is, "why?".  The weather is very treacherous towards the edge of the disk - that is not just a "coincidence".       

hello tinfoil person. What sailing around Antarctica would tell you is that it's a much shorter trip than the flat earth models would lead you to believe. Your comment about the weather is even more stupid than you not realizing what sailing around Antarctica would accomplish but flat earthers don't appear to understand much.

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Re: A bit ridiculous?
« Reply #18 on: May 02, 2013, 06:01:07 AM »
There is no cruise line offering cruises around Antarctica.  That in itself should torpedo (geddit) your main argument.  It is no more difficult to circumnavigate Antarctica than it is difficult for an ant to crawl around the rim of a dinner plate. The only question is, "why?".  The weather is very treacherous towards the edge of the disk - that is not just a "coincidence".       

hello tinfoil person. What sailing around Antarctica would tell you is that it's a much shorter trip than the flat earth models would lead you to believe. Your comment about the weather is even more stupid than you not realizing what sailing around Antarctica would accomplish but flat earthers don't appear to understand much.
Be nice to the new guy, rottingroom.  You suggesting that the trip would be shorter is not exactly proof that it would be shorter, now is it?

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Re: A bit ridiculous?
« Reply #19 on: May 02, 2013, 06:16:41 AM »
There is no cruise line offering cruises around Antarctica.  That in itself should torpedo (geddit) your main argument.  It is no more difficult to circumnavigate Antarctica than it is difficult for an ant to crawl around the rim of a dinner plate. The only question is, "why?".  The weather is very treacherous towards the edge of the disk - that is not just a "coincidence".       

hello tinfoil person. What sailing around Antarctica would tell you is that it's a much shorter trip than the flat earth models would lead you to believe. Your comment about the weather is even more stupid than you not realizing what sailing around Antarctica would accomplish but flat earthers don't appear to understand much.
Be nice to the new guy, rottingroom.  You suggesting that the trip would be shorter is not exactly proof that it would be shorter, now is it?

It would be if I took the trip but I'm not inclined to because I'm not a paranoid schitzo who thinks there is a global conspiracy. If you think there is a conspiracy then YOU should take the trip and prove it to yourself. The Flat Earth Society's claim that the burden of proof is on round earther's is bogus as the burden of proof lies on you to prove to yourself! Especially since the proof has been supplied but you lot just reject all of it. That's your problem, now go figure it out for yourself definitively and personally if that's what it's going to take.

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Re: A bit ridiculous?
« Reply #20 on: May 02, 2013, 06:33:16 AM »
There is no cruise line offering cruises around Antarctica.  That in itself should torpedo (geddit) your main argument.  It is no more difficult to circumnavigate Antarctica than it is difficult for an ant to crawl around the rim of a dinner plate. The only question is, "why?".  The weather is very treacherous towards the edge of the disk - that is not just a "coincidence".       

hello tinfoil person. What sailing around Antarctica would tell you is that it's a much shorter trip than the flat earth models would lead you to believe. Your comment about the weather is even more stupid than you not realizing what sailing around Antarctica would accomplish but flat earthers don't appear to understand much.
Be nice to the new guy, rottingroom.  You suggesting that the trip would be shorter is not exactly proof that it would be shorter, now is it?

It would be if I took the trip but I'm not inclined to because I'm not a paranoid schitzo who thinks there is a global conspiracy. If you think there is a conspiracy then YOU should take the trip and prove it to yourself. The Flat Earth Society's claim that the burden of proof is on round earther's is bogus as the burden of proof lies on you to prove to yourself! Especially since the proof has been supplied but you lot just reject all of it. That's your problem, now go figure it out for yourself definitively and personally if that's what it's going to take.

If I said that Bigfoot exists and you said it does not, which one of us would be capable of actually proving our side?  The burden of proof is on the positive side, not the negative one.

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Re: A bit ridiculous?
« Reply #21 on: May 02, 2013, 06:38:55 AM »
There is no cruise line offering cruises around Antarctica.  That in itself should torpedo (geddit) your main argument.  It is no more difficult to circumnavigate Antarctica than it is difficult for an ant to crawl around the rim of a dinner plate. The only question is, "why?".  The weather is very treacherous towards the edge of the disk - that is not just a "coincidence".       

hello tinfoil person. What sailing around Antarctica would tell you is that it's a much shorter trip than the flat earth models would lead you to believe. Your comment about the weather is even more stupid than you not realizing what sailing around Antarctica would accomplish but flat earthers don't appear to understand much.
Be nice to the new guy, rottingroom.  You suggesting that the trip would be shorter is not exactly proof that it would be shorter, now is it?

It would be if I took the trip but I'm not inclined to because I'm not a paranoid schitzo who thinks there is a global conspiracy. If you think there is a conspiracy then YOU should take the trip and prove it to yourself. The Flat Earth Society's claim that the burden of proof is on round earther's is bogus as the burden of proof lies on you to prove to yourself! Especially since the proof has been supplied but you lot just reject all of it. That's your problem, now go figure it out for yourself definitively and personally if that's what it's going to take.

If I said that Bigfoot exists and you said it does not, which one of us would be capable of actually proving our side?  The burden of proof is on the positive side, not the negative one.

yeah but there isn't a pro side or a negative side here. You are making a pro assertion that the earth is flat as much as anyone else makes the assertion that it is round. The only difference is that round earthers have evidence.

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Re: A bit ridiculous?
« Reply #22 on: May 02, 2013, 06:52:11 AM »
Here is a photo that round earthers claim as evidence of a round earth.



And here's the best flat earthers could come up with (not that they claim this is evidence).



I know it doesn't say much but if ALL of the "so-called" photos of a round earth in existence are fake because "it's easy to fake" then why don't flat-earthers try a little harder. There's a reason why the idea died off despite being supported by a majority at one time. Everyone realized that it's stupid.

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Re: A bit ridiculous?
« Reply #23 on: May 02, 2013, 06:55:42 AM »
There is no cruise line offering cruises around Antarctica.  That in itself should torpedo (geddit) your main argument.  It is no more difficult to circumnavigate Antarctica than it is difficult for an ant to crawl around the rim of a dinner plate. The only question is, "why?".  The weather is very treacherous towards the edge of the disk - that is not just a "coincidence".       

hello tinfoil person. What sailing around Antarctica would tell you is that it's a much shorter trip than the flat earth models would lead you to believe. Your comment about the weather is even more stupid than you not realizing what sailing around Antarctica would accomplish but flat earthers don't appear to understand much.
Be nice to the new guy, rottingroom.  You suggesting that the trip would be shorter is not exactly proof that it would be shorter, now is it?

It would be if I took the trip but I'm not inclined to because I'm not a paranoid schitzo who thinks there is a global conspiracy. If you think there is a conspiracy then YOU should take the trip and prove it to yourself. The Flat Earth Society's claim that the burden of proof is on round earther's is bogus as the burden of proof lies on you to prove to yourself! Especially since the proof has been supplied but you lot just reject all of it. That's your problem, now go figure it out for yourself definitively and personally if that's what it's going to take.
The burden of proof is actually on you. This is the flat earth society and you chose to come here to debate points.

actually it's not. It's on both of us. As far as proof goes, the whole world has provided you with it and you reject it as an elaborate hoax. You will never be convinced and you sure as hell won't find out for yourself (cause you don't want to admit what you've insisted all your life) so we'll just have to wait til the last few of you are gone.

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Re: A bit ridiculous?
« Reply #24 on: May 02, 2013, 07:06:22 AM »
There is no cruise line offering cruises around Antarctica.  That in itself should torpedo (geddit) your main argument.  It is no more difficult to circumnavigate Antarctica than it is difficult for an ant to crawl around the rim of a dinner plate. The only question is, "why?".  The weather is very treacherous towards the edge of the disk - that is not just a "coincidence".       

hello tinfoil person. What sailing around Antarctica would tell you is that it's a much shorter trip than the flat earth models would lead you to believe. Your comment about the weather is even more stupid than you not realizing what sailing around Antarctica would accomplish but flat earthers don't appear to understand much.
Be nice to the new guy, rottingroom.  You suggesting that the trip would be shorter is not exactly proof that it would be shorter, now is it?

It would be if I took the trip but I'm not inclined to because I'm not a paranoid schitzo who thinks there is a global conspiracy. If you think there is a conspiracy then YOU should take the trip and prove it to yourself. The Flat Earth Society's claim that the burden of proof is on round earther's is bogus as the burden of proof lies on you to prove to yourself! Especially since the proof has been supplied but you lot just reject all of it. That's your problem, now go figure it out for yourself definitively and personally if that's what it's going to take.
The burden of proof is actually on you. This is the flat earth society and you chose to come here to debate points.

actually it's not. It's on both of us. As far as proof goes, the whole world has provided you with it and you reject it as an elaborate hoax. You will never be convinced and you sure as hell won't find out for yourself (cause you don't want to admit what you've insisted all your life) so we'll just have to wait til the last few of you are gone.
There is a massive difference about your homework and the theories of the flat earth believers and that is... you have been 100% wet nursed all the way through your theory and the flat earth believers have to think for themselves and yet they still come up with the better theory in my opinion, whilst you rely on mostly magical things to make your system work.

I'm not having a pop at you, personally, I'm simply saying, the flat earth believers don't have to prove to you that the earth is flat...you have to prove to them that it isn't and up to now, it cannot be done, except to show pictures of CGI and painting etc and a whole lot of magical bull crap.

what part if it is magic psychomatic?

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Re: A bit ridiculous?
« Reply #25 on: May 02, 2013, 07:09:28 AM »
There is no cruise line offering cruises around Antarctica.  That in itself should torpedo (geddit) your main argument.  It is no more difficult to circumnavigate Antarctica than it is difficult for an ant to crawl around the rim of a dinner plate. The only question is, "why?".  The weather is very treacherous towards the edge of the disk - that is not just a "coincidence".       

hello tinfoil person. What sailing around Antarctica would tell you is that it's a much shorter trip than the flat earth models would lead you to believe. Your comment about the weather is even more stupid than you not realizing what sailing around Antarctica would accomplish but flat earthers don't appear to understand much.
Be nice to the new guy, rottingroom.  You suggesting that the trip would be shorter is not exactly proof that it would be shorter, now is it?

It would be if I took the trip but I'm not inclined to because I'm not a paranoid schitzo who thinks there is a global conspiracy. If you think there is a conspiracy then YOU should take the trip and prove it to yourself. The Flat Earth Society's claim that the burden of proof is on round earther's is bogus as the burden of proof lies on you to prove to yourself! Especially since the proof has been supplied but you lot just reject all of it. That's your problem, now go figure it out for yourself definitively and personally if that's what it's going to take.

If I said that Bigfoot exists and you said it does not, which one of us would be capable of actually proving our side?  The burden of proof is on the positive side, not the negative one.

yeah but there isn't a pro side or a negative side here. You are making a pro assertion that the earth is flat as much as anyone else makes the assertion that it is round. The only difference is that round earthers have evidence.

Yes there is.  If I say Bigfoot exists, then that is a positive statement.  If you say he does not exist, then that is a negative statement.

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Re: A bit ridiculous?
« Reply #26 on: May 02, 2013, 07:18:32 AM »
There is no cruise line offering cruises around Antarctica.  That in itself should torpedo (geddit) your main argument.  It is no more difficult to circumnavigate Antarctica than it is difficult for an ant to crawl around the rim of a dinner plate. The only question is, "why?".  The weather is very treacherous towards the edge of the disk - that is not just a "coincidence".       

hello tinfoil person. What sailing around Antarctica would tell you is that it's a much shorter trip than the flat earth models would lead you to believe. Your comment about the weather is even more stupid than you not realizing what sailing around Antarctica would accomplish but flat earthers don't appear to understand much.
Be nice to the new guy, rottingroom.  You suggesting that the trip would be shorter is not exactly proof that it would be shorter, now is it?

It would be if I took the trip but I'm not inclined to because I'm not a paranoid schitzo who thinks there is a global conspiracy. If you think there is a conspiracy then YOU should take the trip and prove it to yourself. The Flat Earth Society's claim that the burden of proof is on round earther's is bogus as the burden of proof lies on you to prove to yourself! Especially since the proof has been supplied but you lot just reject all of it. That's your problem, now go figure it out for yourself definitively and personally if that's what it's going to take.

If I said that Bigfoot exists and you said it does not, which one of us would be capable of actually proving our side?  The burden of proof is on the positive side, not the negative one.

yeah but there isn't a pro side or a negative side here. You are making a pro assertion that the earth is flat as much as anyone else makes the assertion that it is round. The only difference is that round earthers have evidence.

Yes there is.  If I say Bigfoot exists, then that is a positive statement.  If you say he does not exist, then that is a negative statement.

JROA... FOLLOW THE WORDS.

In the bigfoot example, yes I agree the one claiming bigfoot exists is making a pro assertion and therefore has BOP.

In round earth vs. flat earth, both are making pro assertions, both have BOP.

But, this is how it goes in the round vs. flat debate:

Round Earthers supply evidence from a multitude of credible sources and supply photographic evidence as well. They also show videos and articles of experiments with proof that it is round. Flat earthers just deny all of this.

Flat Earthers provide no evidence and offer only wild speculation. They cite their own senses as evidence even though there is good empirical evidence that suggests the earth is round. In the cases where empirical evidence SEEMS to indicate the Earth is flat round earthers are able to provide ample explanation of where flat earthers have gone wrong but they continue to deny it like a kicking and screaming baby.

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Re: A bit ridiculous?
« Reply #27 on: May 02, 2013, 07:23:35 AM »
Round earthers promote it like kicking, screaming babies.

I'm not here to talk about the round earth because I think there is any speculation. This forum is akin to observable zoo or freak show and I get nothing but pure fascination and enjoyment from your ignorance.

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Re: A bit ridiculous?
« Reply #28 on: May 02, 2013, 07:40:57 AM »
There is no cruise line offering cruises around Antarctica.  That in itself should torpedo (geddit) your main argument.  It is no more difficult to circumnavigate Antarctica than it is difficult for an ant to crawl around the rim of a dinner plate. The only question is, "why?".  The weather is very treacherous towards the edge of the disk - that is not just a "coincidence".       

hello tinfoil person. What sailing around Antarctica would tell you is that it's a much shorter trip than the flat earth models would lead you to believe. Your comment about the weather is even more stupid than you not realizing what sailing around Antarctica would accomplish but flat earthers don't appear to understand much.
Be nice to the new guy, rottingroom.  You suggesting that the trip would be shorter is not exactly proof that it would be shorter, now is it?

It would be if I took the trip but I'm not inclined to because I'm not a paranoid schitzo who thinks there is a global conspiracy. If you think there is a conspiracy then YOU should take the trip and prove it to yourself. The Flat Earth Society's claim that the burden of proof is on round earther's is bogus as the burden of proof lies on you to prove to yourself! Especially since the proof has been supplied but you lot just reject all of it. That's your problem, now go figure it out for yourself definitively and personally if that's what it's going to take.

If I said that Bigfoot exists and you said it does not, which one of us would be capable of actually proving our side?  The burden of proof is on the positive side, not the negative one.

yeah but there isn't a pro side or a negative side here. You are making a pro assertion that the earth is flat as much as anyone else makes the assertion that it is round. The only difference is that round earthers have evidence.

Yes there is.  If I say Bigfoot exists, then that is a positive statement.  If you say he does not exist, then that is a negative statement.

JROA... FOLLOW THE WORDS.

In the bigfoot example, yes I agree the one claiming bigfoot exists is making a pro assertion and therefore has BOP.

In round earth vs. flat earth, both are making pro assertions, both have BOP.

But, this is how it goes in the round vs. flat debate:

Round Earthers supply evidence from a multitude of credible sources and supply photographic evidence as well. They also show videos and articles of experiments with proof that it is round. Flat earthers just deny all of this.

Flat Earthers provide no evidence and offer only wild speculation. They cite their own senses as evidence even though there is good empirical evidence that suggests the earth is round. In the cases where empirical evidence SEEMS to indicate the Earth is flat round earthers are able to provide ample explanation of where flat earthers have gone wrong but they continue to deny it like a kicking and screaming baby.
Thank you for trying to derail another thread.  We have a shortage of that around here.   ;)

Anyway, back on topic, you made the positive claim about the size of the rim continent, or more specifically, the amount of time to go around it.  I said that this claim requires proof, and gave you examples.  Your repeatedly ignore what I say and say it is up to me to prove you wrong.

Another day at TFES, I suppose.   ::)

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Re: A bit ridiculous?
« Reply #29 on: May 02, 2013, 08:05:48 AM »
There is no cruise line offering cruises around Antarctica.  That in itself should torpedo (geddit) your main argument.  It is no more difficult to circumnavigate Antarctica than it is difficult for an ant to crawl around the rim of a dinner plate. The only question is, "why?".  The weather is very treacherous towards the edge of the disk - that is not just a "coincidence".       

hello tinfoil person. What sailing around Antarctica would tell you is that it's a much shorter trip than the flat earth models would lead you to believe. Your comment about the weather is even more stupid than you not realizing what sailing around Antarctica would accomplish but flat earthers don't appear to understand much.
Be nice to the new guy, rottingroom.  You suggesting that the trip would be shorter is not exactly proof that it would be shorter, now is it?

It would be if I took the trip but I'm not inclined to because I'm not a paranoid schitzo who thinks there is a global conspiracy. If you think there is a conspiracy then YOU should take the trip and prove it to yourself. The Flat Earth Society's claim that the burden of proof is on round earther's is bogus as the burden of proof lies on you to prove to yourself! Especially since the proof has been supplied but you lot just reject all of it. That's your problem, now go figure it out for yourself definitively and personally if that's what it's going to take.

If I said that Bigfoot exists and you said it does not, which one of us would be capable of actually proving our side?  The burden of proof is on the positive side, not the negative one.

yeah but there isn't a pro side or a negative side here. You are making a pro assertion that the earth is flat as much as anyone else makes the assertion that it is round. The only difference is that round earthers have evidence.

Yes there is.  If I say Bigfoot exists, then that is a positive statement.  If you say he does not exist, then that is a negative statement.

JROA... FOLLOW THE WORDS.

In the bigfoot example, yes I agree the one claiming bigfoot exists is making a pro assertion and therefore has BOP.

In round earth vs. flat earth, both are making pro assertions, both have BOP.

But, this is how it goes in the round vs. flat debate:

Round Earthers supply evidence from a multitude of credible sources and supply photographic evidence as well. They also show videos and articles of experiments with proof that it is round. Flat earthers just deny all of this.

Flat Earthers provide no evidence and offer only wild speculation. They cite their own senses as evidence even though there is good empirical evidence that suggests the earth is round. In the cases where empirical evidence SEEMS to indicate the Earth is flat round earthers are able to provide ample explanation of where flat earthers have gone wrong but they continue to deny it like a kicking and screaming baby.
Thank you for trying to derail another thread.  We have a shortage of that around here.   ;)

Anyway, back on topic, you made the positive claim about the size of the rim continent, or more specifically, the amount of time to go around it.  I said that this claim requires proof, and gave you examples.  Your repeatedly ignore what I say and say it is up to me to prove you wrong.

Another day at TFES, I suppose.   ::)

Derail the thread? What by pointing out that the issue is not with whether or not earth is round. The issue is flat earthers. They are the subject of this forum, not the shape of the earth.

Your definition of a claim is is stating or asserting that something is the case, typically without providing evidence or proof. However, there is evidence and it's provided to you flat earthers time and time again. When that happens the BOP shifts to you for an attempt at a defense. You state we have BOP, we meet it, the BOP shifts and you don't meet that.

My definition of a claim (if I'm making one) in this case is an assertion of the truth of something that is in doubt. However, I have no doubt. You do. There is no justifiable reason to think there is doubt.