A curious John Titor's post

1. You did not and have not stated any facts. The maximum life [ if it is a long life strain] of any strain of cold virus is 73 hours. If I were to put you in a sterile bubble and took you back 30 years and released you into society you would be immune from the common cold! That is why biochemists and geneticists strive to "reverse engineer" pathogens. But you were most definitely arguing that Titor's story about his colds "could" be true because "I" in your opinion had got my facts wrong and not he!

2. I never mentioned Thork or Tom Bishop because they have not to my knowledge posted their opinion on this thread as to whether they support John Titor or not?   

"NOOB!"....GROW UP.

1. You did not and have not stated any facts. The maximum life [ if it is a long life strain] of any strain of cold virus is 73 hours. If I were to put you in a sterile bubble and took you back 30 years and released you into society you would be immune from the common cold! That is why biochemists and geneticists strive to "reverse engineer" pathogens. But you were most definitely arguing that Titor's story about his colds "could" be true because "I" in your opinion had got my facts wrong and not he!

2. I never mentioned Thork or Tom Bishop because they have not to my knowledge posted their opinion on this thread as to whether they support John Titor or not?   

"NOOB!"....GROW UP.

1. If a single strain's life span is 73 hours, how does it infect everyone in the world during that time?

2. Then your wording is inaccurate as you implied that the list was the list of "Brains".

Also, I wasn't calling you a noob.  I haven't had to clean up your threads have I?
You are, however, a newbie.  Your low post count and recent registration date support that.  And with your current set of posting, I'd be willing to wager you are a noob.

Cold viruses mutate very rapidly. When you pick up strain [a] it can mutate within your body to become strain [c] [d] ect. When this happens you get what is commonly known as a persistent cold. When you pass one of those strains onto someone else it can mutate in them also. You can have a whole family, school or population with a cold and not one of them will have the same strain which is why vaccination for the cold is as yet an impossibility, but shared antibodies within the population eventually slow the process but only until the next season. This is obviously a very simple explanation to a very complex subject so please excuse it's simple brevity.   
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Cold viruses mutate very rapidly. When you pick up strain [a] it can mutate within your body to become strain [c] [d] ect. When this happens you get what is commonly known as a persistent cold. When you pass one of those strains onto someone else it can mutate in them also. You can have a whole family, school or population with a cold and not one of them will have the same strain which is why vaccination for the cold is as yet an impossibility, but shared antibodies within the population eventually slow the process but only until the next season. This is obviously a very simple explanation to a very complex subject so please excuse it's simple brevity.   
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That still doesn't explain how person A in Brazil is immune to the cold viruses that Person B produces in New York if neither of then have any contact with people from the respected foreign area.

Who said I believe in John Titor?   I hardly believe in myself.

That said, it is of interest to me.

Quote from: John Davis on March 28, 2013, 07:29:34 AM

I could think of a lot of reasons one wouldn't use quantum clocks when travelling through a many-world intepretation.  Could you not?

As far as never having heard of a vaccine for the cold, you have illustrated why his statement about getting colds constantly is valid.

I can see no practical reasons why one would use a caesium clock in place of a quantum clock. Caesium clocks require liquid helium for cooling to just above 0K to be accurate. This makes even a small caesium clock with all its ancillary equipment big enough to fill a average classroom and he says his machine uses sixteen such clocks!!! A quantum clock can fit on your wrist and are more accurate!   
I will say it once more, and only once. You cannot catch a cold from a virus to which humankind has already been exposed. If he were from the future our cold viruses would have no effect on him.
Why did Titor need to go back to the 70's to get a IBM 1500? Are there no e-bays in his future?
Is a race capable of building time machines incapable of reverse engineering inferior computer components?

IBM 1500 ON E-BAY $50 ONO



Quantum Clock


Caesium clock

Neither would be appropriate.

To summarize, he was a pretty mediocre character troll.  I don't know how he managed to have such an impact.

He was probaley sucessful because the Internet was young and people had not yet have expereince with trolls. This was the transition from a reserch based machine to a worldwide communication which included emtertanment

Who said I believe in John Titor?   I hardly believe in myself.

That said, it is of interest to me.

Someone said you were John Titor, which I highly doubt ... unless ...

Quote from: John Davis on March 29, 2013, 08:34:15 AM

Who said I believe in John Titor?   I hardly believe in myself.

That said, it is of interest to me.

Someone said you were John Titor, which I highly doubt ... unless ...

He isn't, otherwise his book would be done by now. :p

Quote from: Excelsior John on September 08, 2013, 02:58:30 PM

Quote from: John Davis on March 29, 2013, 08:34:15 AM

Who said I believe in John Titor?   I hardly believe in myself.

That said, it is of interest to me.

Someone said you were John Titor, which I highly doubt ... unless ...

He isn't, otherwise his book would be done by now. :p

Lol. When is he coming out with his book anyway?

Soon - I've been working on it. I'm expanding my research a bit,  but I'll have a preview chapter once I finish it to release quality. Its in my top priority list lately and the time is near enough that it has to be. I want to include enough in this book to satisfy the topics of the main issues in non-zetetic science, paradox, and the Flat Earth.

The issue of whether I'm John Titor is not one that can be answered, least of all by myself. Even given I am John Titor and given that I know this and presuming he is from a fair state in relation to us it is still a question of when he|I is|am and whether or not I'd even want people to know - and the consequences of such knowledge. Even assuming I travel time, he could be a rival, a nemesis or he could be an ally. He could just be a third actor, unrelated to me. There certainly are enough coincidences to make an argument for it, however. I suppose, one could argue, as patterns complicate the mono-myth forms.

As a father, one can see why I might not want every poser in a parka, who thinks he's John Titor's arch-nemesis, to show up at my door. I'm just living my life and following what some might see as a fool's errand. If a Time Traveler, it might be advantageous to avoid culture shock.

You're not Titor, John.

Thanks for understanding.

Soon - I've been working on it. I'm expanding my research a bit,  but I'll have a preview chapter once I finish it to release quality. Its in my top priority list lately and the time is near enough that it has to be. I want to include enough in this book to satisfy the topics of the main issues in non-zetetic science, paradox, and the Flat Earth.

The issue of whether I'm John Titor is not one that can be answered, least of all by myself. Even given I am John Titor and given that I know this and presuming he is from a fair state in relation to us it is still a question of when he|I is|am and whether or not I'd even want people to know - and the consequences of such knowledge. Even assuming I travel time, he could be a rival, a nemesis or he could be an ally. He could just be a third actor, unrelated to me. There certainly are enough coincidences to make an argument for it, however. I suppose, one could argue, as patterns complicate the mono-myth forms.

As a father, one can see why I might not want every poser in a parka, who thinks he's John Titor's arch-nemesis, to show up at my door. I'm just living my life and following what some might see as a fool's errand. If a Time Traveler, it might be advantageous to avoid culture shock.

Thats great! Im very intrested to see your book as a diehard FE

And I knew you werent Titor lol

I think of Titor as an attempt at social commentary by someone who took the Unibomber too seriously, but his plan backfired and turned into a obsession about time travel instead of a inward look into what could have lead society into destruction.

Quote from: Lorddave on March 09, 2013, 07:41:54 PM

Wonder if he spoke of future events.

He did. He stated that in 2004 there would happen civil disorder related to the American presidential elections of that year, and that the Olympic Games would not occur anymore from this year. This conflict would became a very notable war in 2008 and a world war in 2015. All these predicted events have failed until now.
However, we should consider that he postulated his belief in the Many Worlds Theory; in other words, he believed that everything you do in the past will open another timeline and consequently, his predictions could not occur.

Timeline is a bit off, but we have civil disorder related to American elections; the Olympic Games are cancelled. We are currently fighting what has been branded as a world wide war against the pandemic. The President has warned of a civil war in US. He is indeed a charismatic and divisive leader.

His timeline differs from ours due to the impact of 2000, but many of the predictions echo of his.
 
Are you so certain the earth is round?

While the Lurch reference is nice and all, these mythes are things that tend to give a different sort of order than science, and yet historically their weight is far more than logic or reason.

You might ask why reading tea leaves or bird patterns matter. There are many orders to order, and recognizing that seems to a first step for some.

Soon - I've been working on it. I'm expanding my research a bit,  but I'll have a preview chapter once I finish it to release quality. Its in my top priority list lately and the time is near enough that it has to be. I want to include enough in this book to satisfy the topics of the main issues in non-zetetic science, paradox, and the Flat Earth.

The issue of whether I'm John Titor is not one that can be answered, least of all by myself. Even given I am John Titor and given that I know this and presuming he is from a fair state in relation to us it is still a question of when he|I is|am and whether or not I'd even want people to know - and the consequences of such knowledge. Even assuming I travel time, he could be a rival, a nemesis or he could be an ally. He could just be a third actor, unrelated to me. There certainly are enough coincidences to make an argument for it, however. I suppose, one could argue, as patterns complicate the mono-myth forms.

As a father, one can see why I might not want every poser in a parka, who thinks he's John Titor's arch-nemesis, to show up at my door. I'm just living my life and following what some might see as a fool's errand. If a Time Traveler, it might be advantageous to avoid culture shock.

Soon!
So when will it be ready John?  Your book that is!

It will be ready when it's ready.

It will be ready when it's ready.

In 2016.....it was soon.
In 2020.....ready when it’s ready!
What’s the holdup John?
While we all wait to read what you actually believe are you going to putout some teaser chapters or extracts?
If I were you I’d have it out before NASA and Space X carry out another moon landing as it will tend to make both you and your book rather redundant. 4K or even 8K footage of the earth shot from the moon will be a bit of a Flat Earth Killer.
When that day arrives it’s going to be interesting to see how the various FE proponents deal with it.

There is no hold up. It will be released when it is ready.

There is no hold up. It will be released when it is ready.

Best news yet John. Looking forward to it.

I'm sure you are.

I've been looking forward to it coming real soon for the past 10 years.

I can hardly stand the excitement.

I'm sure you are.

You are correct.
From a point of interest how did you conduct your research. For example I read a pretty good book recently on comets and asteroids by space scientist Natalie Starkey. Now Natalie by virtue of what she does for her day job, she was a co-investigator for the European Space Agency's Rosetta Mission, has good contacts in that particular world and access to the latest research and the people who carry it out. What about you? How do you manage, who do you contact for the latest flat earth research? It would be interesting to know how you go about writing a book On the flat earth. Do you have a publisher yet?

I can't express how pleased I am a bunch of detractors are excited about my book.

Tell me Timeisup, hows learning basic calculus going for you?

I can't express how pleased I am a bunch of detractors are excited about my book.

I’ll give it a go.

It won’t sitting on my coffee table for when I have guests round though.  I’ll have to hide it in the attic.

I can't express how pleased I am a bunch of detractors are excited about my book.

You misunderstand. I would really like to know how you assemble content for your book. The only books I've ever written have been fairly boring low-level textbooks, but none the less it did involve me doing a great deal of research ensuring all the factual information I had included was correct plus all the circuit diagrams used did in fact operate as designed.

If I want to know about about a whole host of things I have a good idea of where I can find good quality information on a wide range of subjects, and I'm not just speaking about pulling stuff off the web. I'm speaking about contacts at university departments who have operating information networks and access to any number of experts.

How do you do it? Where are the flat earth research establishments or experts? From whatI can see if you want to write a book on  flat earth thinking you are very much on your own.