Could the earth be spinning?

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Vimes

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Could the earth be spinning?
« on: February 15, 2013, 07:33:39 AM »
Hi,

First of all, this is my first post and I'd like to say I'm very interested by the idea of a Flat Earth Theory, as I've never quite come to accept the idea of a spherical Earth the curvature of which appears to be undetectable.

I have read through the FAQ and though it provides some convincing explanations in support of FET, I have seen no mention of why Earth should be round and not, say, rectangular, elliptic or irregular. I would therefore like to humbly offer a theory that could describe the shape of Earth: I believe one possible explanation for its circular morphology is that it could be constantly rotating around an axis perpendicular to the earth's surface and passing through what we know as the North Pole.

I would like to read what the experts have to say on the subject: do you think an experiment could be devised to prove or disprove this theory?

Oh and, I apologize in advance in case this topic has already been discussed: the search tool was not very helpful, and I honestly don't have the mental strength to manually sieve through the 10000 or so threads in this forum :P.

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markjo

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Re: Could the earth be spinning?
« Reply #1 on: February 15, 2013, 08:26:40 AM »
It is generally accepted among FE'ers that the flat earth does not rotate.  This has been definitively proven by Samuel Birly Rowbotham in his seminal work, Earth Not a Globe.
http://www.sacred-texts.com/earth/za/za21.htm#page_62
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Re: Could the earth be spinning?
« Reply #2 on: February 15, 2013, 08:39:00 AM »
Obviously this Samuel Birly Rowbotham guy doesn't understand inertia.  ::)
« Last Edit: February 15, 2013, 12:13:33 PM by SuperHater7810 »
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« Reply #3 on: February 15, 2013, 02:08:24 PM »
It is generally accepted among FE'ers that the flat earth does not rotate.  This has been definitively proven by Samuel Birly Rowbotham in his seminal work, Earth Not a Globe.
http://www.sacred-texts.com/earth/za/za21.htm#page_62

It is not accepted by all FE'ers. I support the model in which the flat earth rotates and the background stars remain still.
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« Reply #4 on: February 15, 2013, 03:29:30 PM »
what happened to you Dinosaur Neil? You used to be cool. :(
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markjo

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« Reply #5 on: February 15, 2013, 05:21:35 PM »
I support the model in which the flat earth rotates and the background stars remain still.
How does your model account for increasing centripetal acceleration as one moves south?
Science is what happens when preconception meets verification.
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Besides, perhaps FET is a conspiracy too.
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Re: Could the earth be spinning?
« Reply #6 on: February 15, 2013, 05:32:09 PM »
what happened to you Dinosaur Neil? You used to be cool. :(

he's become inscrutable.

obviously a man of inner purpose
true wisdom is always concise

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Re: Could the earth be spinning?
« Reply #7 on: February 15, 2013, 06:01:00 PM »
How does your model account for increasing centripetal acceleration as one moves south?

i'm curious about this too, neil.

the physical differences between inner and outer latitudes is one that i've been trying to work through.
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Dinosaur Neil

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Re: Could the earth be spinning?
« Reply #8 on: February 16, 2013, 11:03:12 AM »
I support the model in which the flat earth rotates and the background stars remain still.
How does your model account for increasing centripetal acceleration as one moves south?

It is balanced by a force of unknown origin.
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Re: Could the earth be spinning?
« Reply #9 on: February 16, 2013, 11:05:10 AM »
what happened to you Dinosaur Neil? You used to be cool. :(

The wise posts of people like Rushy and Sandokhan convinced me the earth could not be round. However, since the existing flat earth models were useless, I formulated my own, which ties in far better with real physics.
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Re: Could the earth be spinning?
« Reply #10 on: February 16, 2013, 04:57:01 PM »
I support the model in which the flat earth rotates and the background stars remain still.
How does your model account for increasing centripetal acceleration as one moves south?

It is balanced by a force of unknown origin.
In other words, magic.  Glad to see that your model makes so much more sense.
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kevinagain

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Re: Could the earth be spinning?
« Reply #11 on: February 16, 2013, 05:24:42 PM »
gravitons?
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Dinosaur Neil

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Re: Could the earth be spinning?
« Reply #12 on: February 17, 2013, 11:24:05 AM »
I support the model in which the flat earth rotates and the background stars remain still.
How does your model account for increasing centripetal acceleration as one moves south?

It is balanced by a force of unknown origin.
In other words, magic.  Glad to see that your model makes so much more sense.

All flat earth models require something of this nature - such as bendable light, aether, the UA, fictional perspective and so on. However, my solution is the only one out of such things which does not directly conflict with known physics.
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Re: Could the earth be spinning?
« Reply #13 on: February 17, 2013, 11:38:58 AM »
earth the Earth spun, wouldnt we all get dizzy?

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« Reply #14 on: February 17, 2013, 01:43:27 PM »
No because the earth is always moving at a constant speed. You don't really sense the motion of something unless its accelerating. (Speeding up, slowing down or changing direction).
But the earth along with your body and the fluid in your inner ear are all moving at the same constant speed, so there's no reason to feel the effects of any vertigo.
come on this is childes stuff.
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Re: Could the earth be spinning?
« Reply #15 on: February 18, 2013, 07:27:26 AM »
what happened to you Dinosaur Neil? You used to be cool. :(

The wise posts of people like Rushy and Sandokhan convinced me the earth could not be round. However, since the existing flat earth models were useless, I formulated my own, which ties in far better with real physics.
I think this quote applies very well to you. Let's see your model, if in fact it does exist.

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Dinosaur Neil

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Re: Could the earth be spinning?
« Reply #16 on: February 18, 2013, 10:33:49 AM »
what happened to you Dinosaur Neil? You used to be cool. :(

The wise posts of people like Rushy and Sandokhan convinced me the earth could not be round. However, since the existing flat earth models were useless, I formulated my own, which ties in far better with real physics.
I think this quote applies very well to you. Let's see your model, if in fact it does exist.

Unlike other flat earthers, I do not pretend my model is complete and not lacking in details that more research is required to uncover. The unfortunate tendency of other Society members to make claims that their models are complete and have no gaping holes just makes the FES look like the lunatic fringe, and they refuse to acknowledge the clashes between their models and known physics (such as bendable light, bullshit perspective, atmospheric magnification, gravity and so on.)
Whereas my model does not conflict with real physics, because it does not require the universe to follow mysteriously undetectable laws that nobody else has noticed, unlike every other flat earth model. However, because I do not patch the missing data in my model with guesswork or magic, the model is not complete yet. More research is required. Therefore "let's see your model" is a premature request, as it's still under construction. When the day comes that it works as elegantly as RET does, then and only then should it be placed before the public for scrutiny. The rushed, half assed models thrown out there by Tom Bishop, Pongo and others are a good example of half finished ideas which don't work and which are not ready to describe the world around us.
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Re: Could the earth be spinning?
« Reply #17 on: February 20, 2013, 06:24:14 AM »
Hi, just new here.

Could a person not take a camera themselves and set for extended exposure and look at the image later. If the Earth is not spinning then is space?

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Manarq

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Re: Could the earth be spinning?
« Reply #18 on: February 20, 2013, 06:56:28 AM »
Hi, just new here.

Could a person not take a camera themselves and set for extended exposure and look at the image later. If the Earth is not spinning then is space?

Indeed for the most part they think the entire universe is spinning around the Earth. This then means that they have to shrink the size of the universe otherwise everything more than a few million miles away would be travelling faster than the speed of light.
I'd like to agree with you but then we'd both be wrong!

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Seventy1

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Re: Could the earth be spinning?
« Reply #19 on: February 20, 2013, 07:24:36 PM »
Whose " they" ?

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Manarq

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Re: Could the earth be spinning?
« Reply #20 on: February 21, 2013, 11:08:36 AM »
Flat Earth Believers
I'd like to agree with you but then we'd both be wrong!