Celestial Gravitation?

http://theflatearthsociety.org/wiki/index.php?title=Celestial_Gravitation

Was just wondering, since this claimed to be part of some flat earth models, where I could find more detailed information on this subject? Where is the maths to back it up? Or any experimental evidence? No offense but that wiki page is in a pretty sorry state, all it is is two lines of text doing nothing more than stating it exists.

In fact any genuine scientific or mathematical evidence that you could provide to support the flat earth claim would be of great help!

Also how do you explain things like:

-People who FLY from Australia to Africa?
-When at sea it is possible to see high mountains in the distance before lower lying ground and the masts of boats before the hull. It is also possible to see further by climbing higher in the ship, or, when on land, on high cliffs.
-The sun is lower in the sky as you travel north.
-The length of daylight varies more between summer and winter the farther you are from the equator.
-The times reported for lunar eclipses (which are seen simultaneously) are many hours later in the east (e.g. India) than in the west (e.g. Europe). Local times are confirmed later by travel using chronometers and telegraphic communication.
-It is possible to circumnavigate the world; that is, to travel around the world and return to where you started.
-The earth throws a circular shadow on the moon during a lunar eclipse, despite it not being directly between the sun and the moon.
-The International Date Line
-An artificial satellite can circle the earth continuously and even be geostationary.

Some of my points are better explained by this: http://www.bbc.co.uk/learningzone/clips/how-do-we-know-the-earth-is-spherical/2457.html

Gravity is a myth. The link above is probably by a false-flagger, or it could be by a misguided early convert.

Gravity is a myth. The link above is probably by a false-flagger, or it could be by a misguided early convert.

What are you even talking about and what did it have to do with my post? Do you mean the link on Celestial Gravitation? If so there is still a whole second half to my post.

Of course you realize that the following questions each deserve their own post. What you may not realize is that the FAQs answer most of your questions.

Of course you realize that the following questions each deserve their own post. What you may not realize is that the FAQs answer most of your questions.

I've read the FAQ...it just..."Claims things"...providing no evidence...for instance: "The sun moves in circles around the North Pole. When it is over your head, it's day. When it's not, it's night. The sun acts like a spotlight and shines downward as it moves." - that's a claim...with no evidence...
 
It doesn't really answer any of my questions...

Gravity is a myth. The link above is probably by a false-flagger, or it could be by a misguided early convert.

The OP was asking about celestial gravitation, not celestial gravity.  Although the terms are often used interchangeably, gravity and gravitation are two different things and should not be confused.  Many genuine FE'ers support celestial gravitation as (at least partial) explanation for variations in local values of g and the tides.

The OP was asking about celestial gravitation, not celestial gravity.  Although the terms are often used interchangeably, gravity and gravitation are two different things and should not be confused.  Many genuine FE'ers support celestial gravitation as (at least partial) explanation for variations in local values of g and the tides.

The idea is a cancer. There's no magical energy force pulling things upward, just as there is no magical energy force pulling things downward. Tides and changes in g can be easily explained by forces and phenomenon that can reproduced in a laboratory.

There's no magical energy force pulling things upward, just as there is no magical energy force pulling things downward.

To mangle a line from Arthur C. Clarke, any phenomenon sufficiently not understood is indistinguishable from magic. 

Tides and changes in g can be easily explained by forces and phenomenon that can reproduced in a laboratory.

To which specific forces and phenomena are you referring?

To which specific forces and phenomena are you referring?

Acceleration, in this case.

Quote from: markjo on February 14, 2013, 08:32:48 AM

To which specific forces and phenomena are you referring?

Acceleration, in this case.

Such as acceleration due to gravity?

Quote from: muggsybogues1 on February 14, 2013, 08:40:09 AM

Quote from: markjo on February 14, 2013, 08:32:48 AM

To which specific forces and phenomena are you referring?

Acceleration, in this case.

Such as acceleration due to gravity?

No, acceleration due to the Universal Accelerator. Look it up.

Quote from: markjo on February 14, 2013, 11:15:23 AM

Quote from: muggsybogues1 on February 14, 2013, 08:40:09 AM

Quote from: markjo on February 14, 2013, 08:32:48 AM

To which specific forces and phenomena are you referring?

Acceleration, in this case.

Such as acceleration due to gravity?

No, acceleration due to the Universal Accelerator. Look it up.

In what lab has the UA been reproduced?

In what lab has the UA been reproduced?

I successfully reproduced acceleration that causes force in my automobile this morning.

Quote from: markjo on February 15, 2013, 06:44:55 AM

In what lab has the UA been reproduced?

I successfully reproduced acceleration that causes force in my automobile this morning.

You were able to accelerate at a rate of 9.8m/s² vertically in your car?  

Quote from: markjo on February 14, 2013, 11:15:23 AM

Quote from: muggsybogues1 on February 14, 2013, 08:40:09 AM

Quote from: markjo on February 14, 2013, 08:32:48 AM

To which specific forces and phenomena are you referring?

Acceleration, in this case.

Such as acceleration due to gravity?

No, acceleration due to the Universal Accelerator. Look it up.

Oh so a basic force that completely fits and describes every motion in our universe to amazing accuracy, describes motion on earth better than the UA, and is used to calculate orbits for natural satellites and celestial bodies, is magic? So you cling to a made up force that was custom made to fit flat earth theory? Ok.

Quote from: muggsybogues1 on February 15, 2013, 07:49:54 AM

Quote from: markjo on February 15, 2013, 06:44:55 AM

In what lab has the UA been reproduced?

I successfully reproduced acceleration that causes force in my automobile this morning.

You were able to accelerate at a rate of 9.8m/s² vertically in your car?  

Of course not.

Quote from: markjo on February 15, 2013, 01:15:59 PM

Quote from: muggsybogues1 on February 15, 2013, 07:49:54 AM

Quote from: markjo on February 15, 2013, 06:44:55 AM

In what lab has the UA been reproduced?

I successfully reproduced acceleration that causes force in my automobile this morning.

You were able to accelerate at a rate of 9.8m/s² vertically in your car?

Of course not.

Then you did not reproduce the UA in your automobile.

Tides and changes in g can be easily explained by forces and phenomenon that can reproduced in a laboratory.

Tides are always explained by RE believers as an effect of the moon's gravity. Please explain what other force could explain tides. I've been wanting to know the FE explanation for tides for a while now.