live iss!

It's just typical scepi. He asks a stupid question, that even if he would be right(which he won't, because it's elementary physics), it still wouldn't discount space travel, we give him the answers anyway, jump through his stupid hoops, he then tries to discount it a few times and fails miserably, then he calls BS because he can't comprehend. Rinse and repeat.

If you took a bit of time to realise, I am playing detective and you getting interrogated. Your alibi might sound convincing to some detectives, yet I'm old school and tough and I've seen it all before.

I will keep questioning until you start stuttering, even if I have to accept being ridiculed and scoffed at. 

Quote from: Nolhekh on February 03, 2013, 10:40:39 AM

Quote from: sceptimatic on February 03, 2013, 10:35:34 AM

Quote from: Nolhekh on February 03, 2013, 10:32:37 AM

How is that even relevant?

Because your explanation is garbage and unbelievable.

I'm using basic engineering concepts: material properties, and mechanics/physics etc.  You're reaction calling it garbage illuminates your ignorance.

You are using what you have been schooled to use.

You mean the stuff that works?  Keeps huge skyscrapers standing, planes in the air, etc...?  Education is good for you.  You should try it.  There isn't a big Engineering conspiracy.  The schooling stuff works.  You have no idea what you're talking about.

Quote from: sceptimatic on February 03, 2013, 01:46:17 PM

Quote from: Nolhekh on February 03, 2013, 10:40:39 AM

Quote from: sceptimatic on February 03, 2013, 10:35:34 AM

Quote from: Nolhekh on February 03, 2013, 10:32:37 AM

How is that even relevant?

Because your explanation is garbage and unbelievable.

I'm using basic engineering concepts: material properties, and mechanics/physics etc.  You're reaction calling it garbage illuminates your ignorance.

You are using what you have been schooled to use.

You mean the stuff that works?  Keeps huge skyscrapers standing, planes in the air, etc...?  Education is good for you.  You should try it.  There isn't a big Engineering conspiracy.  The schooling stuff works.  You have no idea what you're talking about.

You have been schooled in "space" science to accept the numbers they gave you, because they told you the exact size of Earth and the moon and the sun and light year stars and you bought it, hook line and sinker because they gave you the math to prove their theory.

Their math fit the model they portrayed and you nodded.

Quote from: Nolhekh on February 03, 2013, 01:49:41 PM

Quote from: sceptimatic on February 03, 2013, 01:46:17 PM

Quote from: Nolhekh on February 03, 2013, 10:40:39 AM

Quote from: sceptimatic on February 03, 2013, 10:35:34 AM

Quote from: Nolhekh on February 03, 2013, 10:32:37 AM

How is that even relevant?

Because your explanation is garbage and unbelievable.

I'm using basic engineering concepts: material properties, and mechanics/physics etc.  You're reaction calling it garbage illuminates your ignorance.

You are using what you have been schooled to use.

You mean the stuff that works?  Keeps huge skyscrapers standing, planes in the air, etc...?  Education is good for you.  You should try it.  There isn't a big Engineering conspiracy.  The schooling stuff works.  You have no idea what you're talking about.

You have been schooled in "space" science to accept the numbers they gave you, because they told you the exact size of Earth and the moon and the sun and light year stars and you bought it, hook line and sinker because they gave you the math to prove their theory.

Their math fit the model they portrayed and you nodded.

What part of elastic force is space science?  I think you're getting off topic.  We were discussing my argument about how hair can spring back into place.  This has nothing to do with space.  It's basic real physics.

Quote from: sceptimatic on February 03, 2013, 01:52:34 PM

Quote from: Nolhekh on February 03, 2013, 01:49:41 PM

Quote from: sceptimatic on February 03, 2013, 01:46:17 PM

Quote from: Nolhekh on February 03, 2013, 10:40:39 AM

Quote from: sceptimatic on February 03, 2013, 10:35:34 AM

Quote from: Nolhekh on February 03, 2013, 10:32:37 AM

How is that even relevant?

Because your explanation is garbage and unbelievable.

I'm using basic engineering concepts: material properties, and mechanics/physics etc.  You're reaction calling it garbage illuminates your ignorance.

You are using what you have been schooled to use.

You mean the stuff that works?  Keeps huge skyscrapers standing, planes in the air, etc...?  Education is good for you.  You should try it.  There isn't a big Engineering conspiracy.  The schooling stuff works.  You have no idea what you're talking about.

You have been schooled in "space" science to accept the numbers they gave you, because they told you the exact size of Earth and the moon and the sun and light year stars and you bought it, hook line and sinker because they gave you the math to prove their theory.

Their math fit the model they portrayed and you nodded.

What part of elastic force is space science?  I think you're getting off topic.  We were discussing my argument about how hair can spring back into place.  This has nothing to do with space.  It's basic real physics.

It's basic bull shit and you know it.

Then prove it.

He can't. Here we go again.

Sceptimatic, these upper fora are places where arguments are discussed with logic.  If another user's argument is flawed, it is up to you to point out the flaw.  Flat out calling bulls*** is not exactly specific.  When round earthers approach the FES with this attitude, they get nowhere, just as you are doing with basic engineering and math.

Then prove it.

We are told that you are weightless in the ISS and there is no up or down or sideways and anything in motion, stays in motion.

Take a look at my expert drawing that admittedly should be in an art museum, yet I'll use it to highlight the major problem of this weightless environment.

On the supposed ISS, number 1 hair is always observed, even though it's weightless, yet why?

Why not number 2/3 or 4.

Sceptimatic, these upper fora are places where arguments are discussed with logic.  If another user's argument is flawed, it is up to you to point out the flaw.  Flat out calling bulls*** is not exactly specific.  When round earthers approach the FES with this attitude, they get nowhere, just as you are doing with basic engineering and math.

Nobody is forcing you to take part. Deck out any time you like.

Quote from: Nolhekh on February 03, 2013, 01:58:30 PM

Then prove it.

We are told that you are weightless in the ISS and there is no up or down or sideways and anything in motion, stays in motion.

Take a look at my expert drawing that admittedly should be in an art museum, yet I'll use it to highlight the major problem of this weightless environment.

On the supposed ISS, number 1 hair is always observed, even though it's weightless, yet why?

Why not number 2/3 or 4.

He already explained it to you. It's not his fault you can't comprehend it.

Quote from: sceptimatic on February 03, 2013, 02:14:42 PM

Quote from: Nolhekh on February 03, 2013, 01:58:30 PM

Then prove it.

We are told that you are weightless in the ISS and there is no up or down or sideways and anything in motion, stays in motion.

Take a look at my expert drawing that admittedly should be in an art museum, yet I'll use it to highlight the major problem of this weightless environment.

On the supposed ISS, number 1 hair is always observed, even though it's weightless, yet why?

Why not number 2/3 or 4.

He already explained it to you. It's not his fault you can't comprehend it.

That's not an explanation.

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Because number 1 is the shape the hair was forced to take while the astronaut was sleeping.  Internal elastic force pulls the hair back into this position after external forces move it.

Sorry kind of off topic, but can you please tell us what paint program you use? And a little about your techniqes? Nice and convincing job, sceptmatic. Keep up the good work.

Same again but this time copying her upright hair shape.

Sorry kind of off topic, but can you please tell us what paint program you use? And a little about your techniqes? Nice and convincing job, sceptmatic. Keep up the good work.

Just simply paint and my paint technique is called crap but effective. 

I see what you're trying to show, but the forces causing the motions you illustrate are probably just not strong enough with the motions the astronaut is making.  As for the head and hair normal, the upright position we see in the video is the normal.  Sleeping in 0g with no gravity to pull your hair down would do that.  The stiffness of the hair lets it stick straight out.

I see what you're trying to show, but the forces causing the motions you illustrate are probably just not strong enough with the motions the astronaut is making.  As for the head and hair normal, the upright position we see in the video is the normal.  Sleeping in 0g with no gravity to pull your hair down would do that.  The stiffness of the hair lets it stick straight out.

Where does the hair get it's stiffness?
I can understand short hair sticking up, just like I can understand a tape measure can be unrolled and balanced upright until it collapses, just like her hair should on the slightest motion of her head, yet it doesn't, it simply moves as if it's held in place by strong hair spray or similar.

I wish you wouldn't keep mentioning sleeping makes it like that because there are many cases on women supposedly up there that haven't just got out of bed and have their hair upright like that.

Have a look at this and explain all the bullshit going on here.

Also, take a look at her hair and watch it carefully.

#ws" class="bbc_link" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">International Space Station Hoax

At about the 7.55 mark in the video above, you can hear her say, "my hair is CLEAN."

So much for the dirty hair keeping it upright like that.

At about the 7.55 mark in the video above, you can hear her say, "my hair is CLEAN."

So much for the dirty hair keeping it upright like that.

Good point septi, much of their argument has been dirty hair as the cause. The "astronaut" has debunked that theory.

Have a look at this and explain all the bullshit going on here.

Also, take a look at her hair and watch it carefully.

My hair looks like that on Earth all day.

So the ISS is fake and all as it looks like here. First off the whole hair thing the reason why it is upright is because orbiting is an infinite freefall. Really though you are fall down to earth, but because the Earth rotates around the sun the object will run out of room and will keep this cycle all the way until the object moves at a certain point and the perigee (lowest point of an orbit) will disappear and will will be at a direct path down to earth. In fact we can see the ISS sometimes very briefly in front of the sun: #ws" class="bbc_link" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">International Space Station (ISS) - Space Shuttle Atlantis Docking Silhouette against sun. Obviously you flat Earth people won't believe that video, actually its really slowed down as in real time it moves very fast because the ISS travels round the Earth at about 17,250 mph, and since it’s 1 degree out of the 180 degree visible horizon (approximate). It orbits at about 300km and doing math it will take less than a second to do a “transit” across the sun.

Quote from: sceptimatic on February 03, 2013, 03:18:02 PM

At about the 7.55 mark in the video above, you can hear her say, "my hair is CLEAN."

So much for the dirty hair keeping it upright like that.

Good point septi, much of their argument has been dirty hair as the cause. The "astronaut" has debunked that theory.

What I tried to explain to some of these people on here in my crude drawings, is on this video.
Go to 2 minute 5 seconds onwards and watch carefully , all the females hair in the zero gravity and compare it to the video of the females in the supposed ISS.
#ws" class="bbc_link" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Meet The Global Winners & Watch Their ZERO-G Flight!

Go to 2.32 and watch the lady with the sign in he hands. She rotates upside down by about 180 degrees. Notice how her hair dsnt act the way you describe. And for the rest of the people they are all frantically moving around much faster than the people you show on the iss so of course the hair will move more. By the lady I point out s moving more calmly and gently. Much more akin to what we see on the iss.

Go to 2.32 and watch the lady with the sign in he hands. She rotates upside down by about 180 degrees. Notice how her hair dsnt act the way you describe. And for the rest of the people they are all frantically moving around much faster than the people you show on the iss so of course the hair will move more. By the lady I point out s moving more calmly and gently. Much more akin to what we see on the iss.

Tell it to a weaker mind Thaggy, because you are hitting a brick wall with me.

Quote from: Pythagoras on February 04, 2013, 01:26:26 AM

Go to 2.32 and watch the lady with the sign in he hands. She rotates upside down by about 180 degrees. Notice how her hair dsnt act the way you describe. And for the rest of the people they are all frantically moving around much faster than the people you show on the iss so of course the hair will move more. By the lady I point out s moving more calmly and gently. Much more akin to what we see on the iss.

Tell it to a weaker mind Thaggy, because you are hitting a brick wall with me.

English translation.

Oh shit dude you got me! Dam! I will require time to think of a new stupid reason.

End translation

So is that all you have to say? I showed you in your own evidence a clip that shows the hair acting adsactly the way you say it shouldn't? And you have nothing to say about it? How many iss vids have you seen of people franticly moving about like you show in your clip?

Quote from: sceptimatic on February 04, 2013, 01:40:15 AM

Quote from: Pythagoras on February 04, 2013, 01:26:26 AM

Go to 2.32 and watch the lady with the sign in he hands. She rotates upside down by about 180 degrees. Notice how her hair dsnt act the way you describe. And for the rest of the people they are all frantically moving around much faster than the people you show on the iss so of course the hair will move more. By the lady I point out s moving more calmly and gently. Much more akin to what we see on the iss.

Tell it to a weaker mind Thaggy, because you are hitting a brick wall with me.

English translation.

Oh shit dude you got me! Dam! I will require time to think of a new stupid reason.

End translation

So is that all you have to say? I showed you in your own evidence a clip that shows the hair acting adsactly the way you say it shouldn't? And you have nothing to say about it? How many iss vids have you seen of people franticly moving about like you show in your clip?

Keep trying. This is just one of many proofs of a bull shit ISS and you know it and are frantically trying to debunk anything brought up.

You're too eager.

This is another thing you do that amuses me. When someon debunks what you say, and they do it all the time becuse it so easy, you say that becuse they debunked you that you must be right? Show me the thought proces that got you to that conclusion?

This is another thing you do that amuses me. When someon debunks what you say, and they do it all the time becuse it so easy, you say that becuse they debunked you that you must be right? Show me the thought proces that got you to that conclusion?

Your problem is, you believe you are debunking me but the truth is you you haven't debunked one thing. Not one.