live iss!

Well before I delve right into it, I'd like to point out the trouble he is having with his drinking package. It has a mind of it's own.
It has no reason to spin as it's weightless supposedly, yet it's wanting to drop to the floor, even when he's pushing it slightly upwards.
What's happening here then?

• astronauts' hand
• air flow from the ventilation system

Quote from: sceptimatic on January 24, 2013, 06:22:07 AM

Quote from: Pythagoras on January 24, 2013, 06:09:37 AM

The link is on the op. but the key was it was live so not their anymore. Check the schedule and you can see when the next one is. Lower down in the thread a posted a recorded on that was a good idea of what I watched live. No camra movements at all for 30 minuets and constant demonstration of zero g with no cut scene or editing taking place at all. With live questions bieng asked by children from a school live in a assembly. And the recorded one is was done live on bbc news to millions of people.

I think this is the video you are on about aren't you.

Well before I delve right into it, I'd like to point out the trouble he is having with his drinking package. It has a mind of it's own.
It has no reason to spin as it's weightless supposedly, yet it's wanting to drop to the floor, even when he's pushing it slightly upwards.
What's happening here then?

#" class="bbc_link" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Paolo Nespoli talks to BBC, live from ISS

prob microgravity :? it isn't completely 0g

Quote from: Ninja on January 24, 2013, 06:32:54 AM

Quote from: sceptimatic on January 24, 2013, 06:22:07 AM

Quote from: Pythagoras on January 24, 2013, 06:09:37 AM

The link is on the op. but the key was it was live so not their anymore. Check the schedule and you can see when the next one is. Lower down in the thread a posted a recorded on that was a good idea of what I watched live. No camra movements at all for 30 minuets and constant demonstration of zero g with no cut scene or editing taking place at all. With live questions bieng asked by children from a school live in a assembly. And the recorded one is was done live on bbc news to millions of people.

I think this is the video you are on about aren't you.

Well before I delve right into it, I'd like to point out the trouble he is having with his drinking package. It has a mind of it's own.
It has no reason to spin as it's weightless supposedly, yet it's wanting to drop to the floor, even when he's pushing it slightly upwards.
What's happening here then?

#" class="bbc_link" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Paolo Nespoli talks to BBC, live from ISS

prob microgravity :? it isn't completely 0g

Why do you want a photograph of ISS from NASA from the ground?

P.S. If no photograph is going to change your mind, and think all astronomers and laymen are faking it, then if you really want to know the truth about the existence of the ISS I suggest you follow Pythagoras advice and see for yourself. If  you prefer not to, in order to preserve your belief that it is fake, then no one can stop you, but think for yourself whether you really want to know, or you just want to ignore.

Quote from: sceptimatic on January 24, 2013, 06:22:07 AM

Well before I delve right into it, I'd like to point out the trouble he is having with his drinking package. It has a mind of it's own.
It has no reason to spin as it's weightless supposedly, yet it's wanting to drop to the floor, even when he's pushing it slightly upwards.
What's happening here then?

The pack behaves perfectly OK. It flies/rolls/floats/etc according to the momentum it gets from:

• astronauts' hand
• air flow from the ventilation system

Quote from: sceptimatic on January 24, 2013, 06:22:07 AM

Quote from: Pythagoras on January 24, 2013, 06:09:37 AM

The link is on the op. but the key was it was live so not their anymore. Check the schedule and you can see when the next one is. Lower down in the thread a posted a recorded on that was a good idea of what I watched live. No camra movements at all for 30 minuets and constant demonstration of zero g with no cut scene or editing taking place at all. With live questions bieng asked by children from a school live in a assembly. And the recorded one is was done live on bbc news to millions of people.

I think this is the video you are on about aren't you.

Well before I delve right into it, I'd like to point out the trouble he is having with his drinking package. It has a mind of it's own.
It has no reason to spin as it's weightless supposedly, yet it's wanting to drop to the floor, even when he's pushing it slightly upwards.
What's happening here then?

#" class="bbc_link" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Paolo Nespoli talks to BBC, live from ISS

Microgravity it isn't completely 0g

He explains it later in the video, the ISS has air currents flowing through the station caused by the air recycling system.

I have never seen 30 minutes of uninterupted footage of someone in zero g in a film, there is usually a cut every 20 to 30 seconds.

Quote from: catBot on January 24, 2013, 06:33:23 AM

Quote from: sceptimatic on January 24, 2013, 06:22:07 AM

Well before I delve right into it, I'd like to point out the trouble he is having with his drinking package. It has a mind of it's own.
It has no reason to spin as it's weightless supposedly, yet it's wanting to drop to the floor, even when he's pushing it slightly upwards.
What's happening here then?

The pack behaves perfectly OK. It flies/rolls/floats/etc according to the momentum it gets from:

• astronauts' hand
• air flow from the ventilation system

Also it's got a free flowing liquid inside of it which brings the whole world of chaos theory into play. So the bag would not behave predictably.

Mission Control Center, Houston sends commands and receives telemetry via the 60-ft. diameter, high-gain microwave ground terminals at NASA's White Sands Test Facility near Las Cruses in southern New Mexico. It uses the S-band and UHF frequencies, as well as the early ISS communications system.

The terminals relay signals to and from a pair of Tracking and Data Relay Satellite System satellites orbiting at an altitude of 22,300 miles. The satellites pass the signals directly to and from the U.S. segment of the ISS at a rate equivalent to sending the contents of the entire encyclopedia Britannica every second.

Commands can also reach the station through a docked Space Shuttle and through the Russian communications system. Russian coverage is nearly continuous while using Russian ground stations, which are available for a portion of an orbit. Russia's launch tracking and data relay satellite provides coverage for about 45 minutes per orbit.

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look at the distances involved. have you ever had sat tv on in one room and terestrial tv on in the other on the same channle? sat tv is a few 2 seconds behind terestrial tv. this is becuse the signal is beemed up 23,000 miles then back down 23,000 miles. hence the time delay. also take into account travle time from source of signal from ground control to the ground relay station which in itself could be thousnads of miles.

so why then is their a deley then? how does this help help nasa in the conspiracy.
you can get local tv through sat tv signals.
how long is the delay for transmitions to the iss?
the iss also moves around the earth so the signal will need to be relayed by several satalites some times to reach the iss.

so why then is their a deley then? how does this help help nasa in the conspiracy.
you can get local tv through sat tv signals.
how long is the delay for transmitions to the iss?
the iss also moves around the earth so the signal will need to be relayed by several satalites some times to reach the iss.

non of your questions make sense. radio technoligy hasnt improved? you cant make radio waves travle faster with technoligy.
live feed. they relied on the same satilites they use for all thier comunications one would gues.
and why cant it be geo stationary ones? just saying something cant be dosent constitute an argument its a statment backed up with no evidence.
have you found out the time delay to the iss yet?

Give up Pythagoras, sceptimatic has demonstrated over and over again, in thread after thread, that he doesn't have the slightest grasp of how physics works or even how it's supposed to work in a round earth scenario. You can't argue with someone who doesn't have any knowledge of what they're arguing about.

Sceptimatic, do you know of a way of speeding up the transmissions so that there is no delay? To my knowledge there is none.

And what's the problem with satellites relaying footage?

Quote from: Bollybill on January 27, 2013, 10:51:44 AM

Sceptimatic, do you know of a way of speeding up the transmissions so that there is no delay? To my knowledge there is none.

And what's the problem with satellites relaying footage?

First of all, the ISS is supposedly orbiting the Earth at 17,000 mph. We are told that geo stationary satellites are at 23,000 miles out on a fixed point with the Earth's spin, meaning they are supposedly fixed on a given point on Earth at all times.

If the ISS is whizzing around the Earth, we can discount relaying from these can we not?

Quote from: Bollybill on January 27, 2013, 10:51:44 AM

Sceptimatic, do you know of a way of speeding up the transmissions so that there is no delay? To my knowledge there is none.

And what's the problem with satellites relaying footage?

First of all, the ISS is supposedly orbiting the Earth at 17,000 mph. We are told that geo stationary satellites are at 23,000 miles out on a fixed point with the Earth's spin, meaning they are supposedly fixed on a given point on Earth at all times.

If the ISS is whizzing around the Earth, we can discount relaying from these can we not?

Quote from: sceptimatic on January 27, 2013, 10:59:36 AM

Quote from: Bollybill on January 27, 2013, 10:51:44 AM

Sceptimatic, do you know of a way of speeding up the transmissions so that there is no delay? To my knowledge there is none.

And what's the problem with satellites relaying footage?

First of all, the ISS is supposedly orbiting the Earth at 17,000 mph. We are told that geo stationary satellites are at 23,000 miles out on a fixed point with the Earth's spin, meaning they are supposedly fixed on a given point on Earth at all times.

If the ISS is whizzing around the Earth, we can discount relaying from these can we not?

If there's nothing between the geostationary satellites and the ISS, then they can be used to relay to it.  Simple.