Picture showing the sunlight grazing the surface

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clemenza089

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Picture showing the sunlight grazing the surface
« on: January 17, 2013, 07:05:45 PM »
I found this fantastic picture:



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It shows a shadow cast by Mount Rainier. How do you explain that?

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rorius

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Re: Picture showing the sunlight grazing the surface
« Reply #1 on: January 18, 2013, 07:07:03 AM »
It shows a shadow cast by Mount Rainier. How do you explain that?

The Earth is round BENDY LIGHT

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Pongo

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Re: Picture showing the sunlight grazing the surface
« Reply #2 on: January 18, 2013, 11:35:04 AM »
Past your view of the mountains there is a break in the cloud cover.  Light is shining to the earth and bouncing up to light the underside of the clouds and back side of the mountain.

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Dinosaur Neil

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Re: Picture showing the sunlight grazing the surface
« Reply #3 on: January 18, 2013, 11:35:57 AM »
Past your view of the mountains there is a break in the cloud cover.  Light is shining to the earth and bouncing up to light the underside of the clouds and back side of the mountain.

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Pythagoras

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Re: Picture showing the sunlight grazing the surface
« Reply #4 on: January 18, 2013, 11:39:56 AM »
past your view of the mountains? so in other words you have no proof so will make things up? ???

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Pongo

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Re: Picture showing the sunlight grazing the surface
« Reply #5 on: January 18, 2013, 11:41:25 AM »
past your view of the mountains? so in other words you have no proof so will make things up? ???

Why do you ask questions if you are unwilling to hear the answers?

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Pythagoras

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Re: Picture showing the sunlight grazing the surface
« Reply #6 on: January 18, 2013, 11:43:06 AM »
why do you say something you have no evidence for? can you see a gap in the clouds? no their for your are assuming AKA making things up.

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Dinosaur Neil

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Re: Picture showing the sunlight grazing the surface
« Reply #7 on: January 18, 2013, 11:43:23 AM »
past your view of the mountains? so in other words you have no proof so will make things up? ???

Why do you ask questions if you are unwilling to hear the answers?

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Quit low-content posting.

Low content posting? When you give an explanation about as plausible as "just over the horizon are a million frogs with torches shining them up at the cloud"?
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Pongo

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Re: Picture showing the sunlight grazing the surface
« Reply #8 on: January 18, 2013, 11:51:49 AM »
why do you say something you have no evidence for? can you see a gap in the clouds? no their for your are assuming AKA making things up.

Can you see the sun shining from below the horizon?  My explanation works perfectly well, you just don't like it.

Low content posting? When you give an explanation about as plausible as "just over the horizon are a million frogs with torches shining them up at the cloud"?

Don't dispute moderation.

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Pythagoras

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Re: Picture showing the sunlight grazing the surface
« Reply #9 on: January 18, 2013, 11:54:52 AM »
so your bendy light which has no evidence or scientific study. comes down through a hole in the cloud that we cant see then bends at a angle back upwards to light the bottom of the cloud? ???

evidence of no evidence or scientific study of bendy light
http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php/topic,57312.0.html#.UPmoMCe6eSo

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Pongo

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Re: Picture showing the sunlight grazing the surface
« Reply #10 on: January 18, 2013, 12:04:09 PM »
Why are you evoking bendy light?  I never mentioned bendy light.  Are you trying to create an argument that you would rather debate than actually addressing the issue at hand?

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Pythagoras

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Re: Picture showing the sunlight grazing the surface
« Reply #11 on: January 18, 2013, 12:13:55 PM »
we are talking about light which in your world is bendy their for we are talking about bendy light. i provided a link to a thread to argue about bendy light in itself. in order your your theory to work the light must come down through the hole that isnt their and then bend back upwards to light the cloud from beneath.

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Pongo

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Re: Picture showing the sunlight grazing the surface
« Reply #12 on: January 18, 2013, 12:30:54 PM »
It must certainly not have to bend.  Imagine that you are standing in your bed room as far from your bed as possible and shine a flashlight under your bed.  You would expect some light to bounce back up and hit the bottom of your bed.  The bottom of your bed is the clouds in this analogy.  Now, if a shoe (mountain) were in the way, it would cast a shadow.  This is how the edge of the spotlight sun works, it's much bigger than a flight light beam. 

Tell me, where in this analogy must the flash lights beam have to bend?

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Pythagoras

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Re: Picture showing the sunlight grazing the surface
« Reply #13 on: January 18, 2013, 01:06:10 PM »
i can see where your coming from although i dont agree.  :-\

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Kendrick

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Re: Picture showing the sunlight grazing the surface
« Reply #14 on: January 18, 2013, 01:46:56 PM »
how is the light reflecting off of the surface of the earth and hitting the underside of the cloud layer more luminous then the light coming directly from the sun hitting the tops of the clouds?

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Dinosaur Neil

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Re: Picture showing the sunlight grazing the surface
« Reply #15 on: January 18, 2013, 01:49:29 PM »
Pongo's excuse is easily disproved: a simple measurement of light level coming from the clouds compared to light level coming from the ground shows that the brightness of the clouds exceeds the amount of light that would be reaching them even with land of high albedo under direct sun illumination. And usually there isn't snow, there's the much dimmer grass, trees and buildings. Land under direct illumination from the sun reflects less light than is observed coming down from the clouds. This is easily measured with a standard SLR camera's light meter. Since Pongo's explanation requires the clouds to be reflecting more light than could be shining on them, we can ignore it.
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Pongo

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Re: Picture showing the sunlight grazing the surface
« Reply #16 on: January 18, 2013, 04:15:07 PM »
how is the light reflecting off of the surface of the earth and hitting the underside of the cloud layer more luminous then the light coming directly from the sun hitting the tops of the clouds?

Because the tops of the clouds, or top of the bed in the analogy, is outside the sun's spotlight.

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jimspade

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Re: Picture showing the sunlight grazing the surface
« Reply #17 on: January 19, 2013, 04:50:55 AM »
The earth is round. Magic?
It was Tom Bishop that said those ridiculous things, he is the ultimate foe in regards to FE trolls.

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Dinosaur Neil

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Re: Picture showing the sunlight grazing the surface
« Reply #18 on: January 19, 2013, 05:57:53 AM »
how is the light reflecting off of the surface of the earth and hitting the underside of the cloud layer more luminous then the light coming directly from the sun hitting the tops of the clouds?

Because the tops of the clouds, or top of the bed in the analogy, is outside the sun's spotlight.

Pongo, I think you should look at the post above this one, and read it carefully.
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