Source of Magnetism

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Daniel39363

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Source of Magnetism
« on: December 09, 2012, 03:29:53 PM »
The source of the earth's magnetic field is the core of the earth. In the flat earth model, the earth doesn't have a metal core. Magnetism is a well known and understood phenomenon. This is how it works in the earth:
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/magnetic/imgmag/mearth.gif

How does it work in your flat earth model?

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Re: Source of Magnetism
« Reply #1 on: December 09, 2012, 05:49:05 PM »
In the flat earth model, the earth doesn't have a metal core.
How does it work in your flat earth model?

How do you claim to know this? Have you been there?
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Daniel39363

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Re: Source of Magnetism
« Reply #2 on: December 09, 2012, 07:11:15 PM »
In the flat earth model, the earth doesn't have a metal core.
How does it work in your flat earth model?

How do you claim to know this? Have you been there?
The effect is a magnetic field, therefore the core is ferromagnetic and a metal. Standard logic. Your post still did not answer my question though.

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Re: Source of Magnetism
« Reply #3 on: December 09, 2012, 08:04:04 PM »
The magnetic poles are located beneath the North pole at the hub.
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Daniel39363

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Re: Source of Magnetism
« Reply #4 on: December 09, 2012, 08:26:26 PM »
The magnetic poles are located beneath the North pole at the hub.
Can you draw a picture because I'm not following this.

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Re: Source of Magnetism
« Reply #5 on: December 09, 2012, 08:28:52 PM »
The magnetic poles are located beneath the north pole in my avatar.
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Daniel39363

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Re: Source of Magnetism
« Reply #6 on: December 09, 2012, 08:41:49 PM »
The magnetic poles are located beneath the north pole in my avatar.
In that case the south pole would be underneath the center. Compasses wouldn't work because the needle would want to point upwards.
EDIT: The aurora wouldn't work either.
« Last Edit: December 09, 2012, 08:44:18 PM by Daniel39363 »

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Re: Source of Magnetism
« Reply #7 on: December 09, 2012, 08:50:08 PM »
Compasses follow magnetic field lines. They don't point to the center of the earth.
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Daniel39363

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Re: Source of Magnetism
« Reply #8 on: December 09, 2012, 08:52:10 PM »
Compasses follow magnetic field lines. They don't point to the center of the earth.
Yes, but if I'm understanding your model correctly, the magnetic field lines would extent vertically out of the center and go back vertically through the other parts of the earth. The compass would want to align up and down.

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Re: Source of Magnetism
« Reply #9 on: December 09, 2012, 09:15:45 PM »
Then you aren't understanding correctly. While there is inclination, the only place the field lines are vertical are at the north pole region and at the rim-region.
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Re: Source of Magnetism
« Reply #10 on: December 12, 2012, 12:23:28 PM »
Compasses follow magnetic field lines. They don't point to the center of the earth.
Yes, but if I'm understanding your model correctly, the magnetic field lines would extent vertically out of the center and go back vertically through the other parts of the earth. The compass would want to align up and down.

They believe the South Pole/Antartica forms a ring around the other Continents.  So the south pole is not vertical to the north pole, but completely surrounds the north pole, 360 degrees.

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Re: Source of Magnetism
« Reply #11 on: December 12, 2012, 07:21:21 PM »
Both magnetic poles are underneath the geographical north pole (roughly).
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Re: Source of Magnetism
« Reply #12 on: December 12, 2012, 11:37:13 PM »
This is the kind of thread where the information in the alternative flat earth theory is really needed.

http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php/topic,56121.msg1403354.html#msg1403354 (double helix theory of the magnetic field)

Maxwell's 1864 paper 'A Dynamical Theory of the Electromagnetic Field' abandons the theory of molecular vortices that was a central feature of his 1861 paper 'On Physical Lines of Force'. Even after writing part I of his 1861 paper, Maxwell realized that a purely hydrodynamical approach to electromagnetic theory is insufficient, and so he introduced electrical particles and gradually shifted over to a more dynamical approach. This article investigates whether or not any physics was lost as a result of Maxwell abandoning his theory of molecular vortices. The focus of attention is centred on equation (5) of his 1861 paper, as this equation contains components that can be demonstrated to simultaneously represent both the Coriolis force and the Lorentz force, therefore implying that the Lorentz force is a kind of Coriolis force. Since a rotating frame of reference is needed for a Coriolis force, it follows that the Lorentz force must depend entirely on the rotating aethereal substance within Maxwell's vortex cells. The conclusion is that Maxwell made a serious error when he abandoned his theory of molecular vortices, and that the physical explanation for the Lorentz force was lost as a result.
The Coriolis Force in Maxwell's Equations
(A comparative study of Maxwell?s 1864 paper 'A Dynamical Theory of the Electromagnetic Field' and his 1861 paper 'On Physical Lines of Force')
www.wbabin.net/science/tombe4.pdf


Scalar waves were originally detected by a Scottish mathematical genius called James Clerk Maxwell (1831-1879) He linked electricity and magnetism and laid the foundation for modern physics, but unfortunately the very fine scalar waves (which he included in his research) were deliberately left out of his work by the 3 men, including Heinrich Hertz, who laid down the laws taught for physics as a discipline at colleges. They dismissed Maxwell's scalar waves or potentials as 'mystical' because they were physically unmanifest and only existed in the 'ethers' and so were determined to be too ineffectual for further study. These enigmatic (but more powerful than even microwaves when harnessed and concentrated into a beam) scalar waves may have been forgotten except that Nicola Tesla accidentally rediscovered them. He'd originally worked with Thomas Edison who discovered direct current, but Tesla discovered alternating current. The two men disagreed and eventually parted ways and Tesla later experimented using the research of the German Heinrich Hertz, who was proving the existence of electromagnetic waves. Tesla found, while experimenting with violently abrupt direct current electrical charges, that a new form of energy (scalar) came through.

By 1904, Tesla had developed transmitters to harness scalar energy from one transmitter to another, undetectably bypassing time and space. He could just materialize it from one place to another through hyperspace, without the use of wires, it was just sucked right out of the space-time/vacuum and into a transmitter and into a beam which could be targeted to another transmitter. Unfortunately he got no financial support for replacing electricity, which used wires and therefore earned money, and to this day, this is the reason why scalar energy is still not acknowledged in mainstream physics. Tesla, even though he discovered more for mankind in science than many others, is still not credited in science books for his discovery of scalar waves, a source of 'free-energy' obtainable as a limitless source of power that costs nothing.


http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php/topic,32579.msg805152.html#msg805152 (IRON CORE HOAX/FICTION, true theory of magnetic fields)


HARTMANN/CURRY LINES = MAGNETIC FIELD OF EARTH = TELLURIC CURRENTS = SUBQUARK WAVES


http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php/topic,27426.msg1424613.html#msg1424613

http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php/topic,27426.msg1424161.html#msg1424161

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digimonkey

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Re: Source of Magnetism
« Reply #13 on: December 15, 2012, 07:55:55 PM »
Both magnetic poles are underneath the geographical north pole (roughly).

Underneath, like under the Earth vertically?

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Re: Source of Magnetism
« Reply #14 on: December 15, 2012, 09:37:59 PM »
Both magnetic poles are underneath the geographical north pole (roughly).

Underneath, like under the Earth vertically?

In a disc-shaped magnet, the poles are stacked, yes. 

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Tom Bishop

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Re: Source of Magnetism
« Reply #15 on: December 17, 2012, 03:00:34 PM »
Compasses follow magnetic field lines. They don't point to the center of the earth.
Yes, but if I'm understanding your model correctly, the magnetic field lines would extent vertically out of the center and go back vertically through the other parts of the earth. The compass would want to align up and down.

Yes, which is why the compass doesn't work in the Arctic or Antarctic circles. You need a special compass with an axle to navigate those latitudes.

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Re: Source of Magnetism
« Reply #16 on: December 17, 2012, 08:11:23 PM »
Earth's Magnetism is not really understood that well, it flips on an non-regular basis.  Also, In RET people are unsure as to why venus, nearly identical in size to earth, does not have a Magnetic field (or only an extremely limited one).  RET has theorized why we have a magnetic field, but no one has even dug into the mantel of the earth so I would hold off on saying we know why earth has a magnetic field.

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Re: Source of Magnetism
« Reply #17 on: December 22, 2012, 09:38:04 PM »


Since compass needles are always horizontal in orientation, they would follow the field lines as close as they can.  Which means towards the edge.
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