iPhone 5

And yet you are still replying.

And yet you are still replying.

What the fuck else am I going to do while waiting for Ruby to compile? Sing and dance?

I don't use them. So I am doing my bit.

Except facebook. I do have facebook. But I can't see the adverts nor the wall commercials driven by friends (Tom just liked the new Apple 5 - I don't get that anymore) on it and have never given them a penny. I'm one of the millions that they fail to monetise. Their shareholders hate me. I'm just using bandwidth.

I've seen "add Thork" as a friend. Is that you? Or some other Thork that Facebook has found because you may have sent me an e-mail at some point?

Use it to keep tabs on who got fat, who had kids and who decided to come out of the closet. My facebook 'friends' will attest I don't have any photos and I don't update my wall.

I just use it for stalking mostly.

>uses social media for the same reason everyone else does
>wants it to go away

uuuhhhhh

I just bought a Sony Xperia Go
It's durable and IP67 certified water+dust resistant. Oh my!
Perfect for that ice wall expedition

Quote from: Thork on October 03, 2012, 01:37:19 AM

I don't use them. So I am doing my bit.

Except facebook. I do have facebook. But I can't see the adverts nor the wall commercials driven by friends (Tom just liked the new Apple 5 - I don't get that anymore) on it and have never given them a penny. I'm one of the millions that they fail to monetise. Their shareholders hate me. I'm just using bandwidth.

I've seen "add Thork" as a friend. Is that you? Or some other Thork that Facebook has found because you may have sent me an e-mail at some point?

No, my parents bothered to give me a real name. My facebook name is not Thork.

I haven't tried to contact you on facebook. Its probably Dann making an account in my name. He's absolutely obsessed with me.

Except facebook. I do have facebook. But I can't see the adverts nor the wall commercials driven by friends (Tom just liked the new Apple 5 - I don't get that anymore) on it and have never given them a penny. I'm one of the millions that they fail to monetise. Their shareholders hate me. I'm just using bandwidth.

Thork, just by using Facebook, you are increasing their revenue.  Just because you can't see the advertisements, that does not mean they are not charging the advertisers.  Look at the CPM option in the following link.  I am fairly sure that they are still charging for sending you the advertisements, even though you are blocking them.

http://www.fbadslab.com/facebook-adverts/how-much-does-it-cost-to-advertise-on-facebook/

Except facebook. I do have facebook. But I can't see the adverts nor the wall commercials driven by friends (Tom just liked the new Apple 5 - I don't get that anymore) on it and have never given them a penny. I'm one of the millions that they fail to monetise. Their shareholders hate me. I'm just using bandwidth.

http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2011-09/21/doug-rushkoff-hello-etsy

He added: "Ask yourself who is paying for Facebook. Usually the people who are paying are the customers. Advertisers are the ones who are paying. If you don't know who the customer of the product you are using is, you don't know what the product is for. We are not the customers of Facebook, we are the product. Facebook is selling us to advertisers."

This is why I refuse to get a Facebook account.

Quote from: Thork on October 03, 2012, 01:37:19 AM

Except facebook. I do have facebook. But I can't see the adverts nor the wall commercials driven by friends (Tom just liked the new Apple 5 - I don't get that anymore) on it and have never given them a penny. I'm one of the millions that they fail to monetise. Their shareholders hate me. I'm just using bandwidth.

http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2011-09/21/doug-rushkoff-hello-etsy

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He added: "Ask yourself who is paying for Facebook. Usually the people who are paying are the customers. Advertisers are the ones who are paying. If you don't know who the customer of the product you are using is, you don't know what the product is for. We are not the customers of Facebook, we are the product. Facebook is selling us to advertisers."

This is why I refuse to get a Facebook account.

Do you watch television? The evil news channel is turning you into a product for their advertisers as well.

Do you watch television? The evil news channel is turning you into a product for their advertisers as well.

The evil news channel doesn't track my every interaction with my social group.

Quote from: OrbisNonSufficit on October 03, 2012, 03:11:35 PM

Do you watch television? The evil news channel is turning you into a product for their advertisers as well.

The evil news channel doesn't track my every interaction with my social group.

But that's not the reason you gave for not having a facebook.  That's Thork's reason for not using google.  You quoted someone saying that facebook makes us products for advertisers, which is exactly what television does.

Quote from: markjo on October 03, 2012, 04:18:07 PM

Quote from: OrbisNonSufficit on October 03, 2012, 03:11:35 PM

Do you watch television? The evil news channel is turning you into a product for their advertisers as well.

The evil news channel doesn't track my every interaction with my social group.

But that's not the reason you gave for not having a facebook.  That's Thork's reason for not using google.  You quoted someone saying that facebook makes us products for advertisers, which is exactly what television does.

Facebook tracks, analyzes and sells your every action and interaction to advertisers.  In his way, you are the product and the advertisers are the customers.  Television is not nearly this invasive.

Quote from: OrbisNonSufficit on October 03, 2012, 04:36:18 PM

Quote from: markjo on October 03, 2012, 04:18:07 PM

Quote from: OrbisNonSufficit on October 03, 2012, 03:11:35 PM

Do you watch television? The evil news channel is turning you into a product for their advertisers as well.

The evil news channel doesn't track my every interaction with my social group.

But that's not the reason you gave for not having a facebook.  That's Thork's reason for not using google.  You quoted someone saying that facebook makes us products for advertisers, which is exactly what television does.

Facebook tracks, analyzes and sells your every action and interaction to advertisers.  In his way, you are the product and the advertisers are the customers.  Television is not nearly this invasive.

So you are okay with being a product so long as its not invasive? 

So you are okay with being a product so long as its not invasive?

I'm less repulsed.

You guys think the cable companies are not doing the exact same thing?

http://techliberation.com/2009/01/12/cable-companies-to-log-viewing-habits-is-privacy-at-risk/

You guys think the cable companies are not doing the exact same thing?

http://techliberation.com/2009/01/12/cable-companies-to-log-viewing-habits-is-privacy-at-risk/

Tracking my viewing habits is one thing, but data mining my every action and interaction with all of my FB "friends" is quite another.

Life has a funny way of making me swallow every last dreg of my pride. In a sick twist of fate, I have been offered some ad hoc computer work. As an frickin' iDeveloper making apps.

As we speak, a man is boxing an iPhone, iPad, a mac mini, and the last of my dignity. I get a Mac Pro in a while too.

Now, yeah, I should probably be delighted that all these shiny white things are on their way. But I'm scared. What if I like them? Anyway, despite vehemently refusing ever to buy Apple, here I am about to latch onto one of its teats.

I've no damn idea how to write software for Apple, so I guess that's what I'll be doing for the next few weeks ... learning objective C. Seems like a lot of work for one job but I haven't anything else on. So I guess I better give it a polish and take a bite of Apple.

Cue Parsifal, LordDave and Markjo laughing like Hyenas as I unplug my Windows PC and get all appley.

I have been offered some ad hoc computer work. As an frickin' iDeveloper making apps.
I've no damn idea how to write software for Apple, so I guess that's what I'll be doing for the next few weeks ... learning objective C.

Who hired you, based on these non-existant skills? 

I guess I have had enough practice bullsh*tting with the guys on these forums.

Congratul*tions, at least it's better than nothing.

And don't worry, you might like the product at first but you'll probably inevitably grow frustrated with it.

But then you're more than satisfied with Windows, so I dunno...

so I guess that's what I'll be doing for the next few weeks ... learning objective C.

Cool me too

Today I have learned about classes, implementation and draining my pool. Which makes me want the toilet.

Careful Thork.  You are skipping the gateway drugs and going straight for the hard stuff.  I know you have experience with quitting smoking, but do you really want to put yourself through the withdrawals again?

Life has a funny way of making me swallow every last dreg of my pride. In a sick twist of fate, I have been offered some ad hoc computer work. As an frickin' iDeveloper making apps.

As we speak, a man is boxing an iPhone, iPad, a mac mini, and the last of my dignity. I get a Mac Pro in a while too.

Now, yeah, I should probably be delighted that all these shiny white things are on their way. But I'm scared. What if I like them? Anyway, despite vehemently refusing ever to buy Apple, here I am about to latch onto one of its teats.

I've no damn idea how to write software for Apple, so I guess that's what I'll be doing for the next few weeks ... learning objective C. Seems like a lot of work for one job but I haven't anything else on. So I guess I better give it a polish and take a bite of Apple.

Cue Parsifal, LordDave and Markjo laughing like Hyenas as I unplug my Windows PC and get all appley.

I'm not laughing because you are now using apple. I'm laughing because unless the app is "hello world" you have no chance of making it in anything less than a year. And that's if it's something simple like a flashlight app.
When they learn that you lied they will flash fry you in the oil of civil court.

What are they having you do anyway?

Lorddave, you are missing the point and trying to find humor where there is none.  Thork is no longer wrapping Windows around his dick and dancing as he wanks.  These are tough times for Thork and we should try to help him get through them.

Lorddave, you are missing the point and trying to find humor where there is none.  Thork is no longer wrapping Windows around his dick and dancing as he wanks.  These are tough times for Thork and we should try to help him get through them.

I don't care about that. A job coding for apple products doesn't mean he likes them. It's a job.

I'm not laughing because you are now using apple. I'm laughing because unless the app is "hello world" you have no chance of making it in anything less than a year.

I'm not you. I'll be cranking out apps in 3 weeks. It turns out objective C is very similar to some other languages I've used before. Its just syntax. I learnt vb in a month for a job, and at the time I'd never seen anything like it.

And that's if it's something simple like a flashlight app.
When they learn that you lied they will flash fry you in the oil of civil court.

I didn't need to lie. The guy knows I can't write Objective C (actually couldn't this morning. Can now do basic stuff like loops and calcs and the basics of setting up. ) They are more interested in my Maths and physics skills anyway (don't laugh).

What are they having you do anyway?

Can't say. Its military.

This is kind of my point to Andrew. They want an engineer. Being able to use a computer is just expected.

Quote from: jroa on October 04, 2012, 08:59:56 AM

Lorddave, you are missing the point and trying to find humor where there is none.  Thork is no longer wrapping Windows around his dick and dancing as he wanks.  These are tough times for Thork and we should try to help him get through them.

I don't care about that. A job coding for apple products doesn't mean he likes them. It's a job.

Soon, Thork will be spewing *nix drivel, like ls and cd.  Next will come the coding part.  He won't get past it if we don't give him a hand.

Why do the brits feel the need to add an 'S' to math.  In the US, math is an umbrella word, it just makes me wonder how the difference got started.

Why do the brits feel the need to add an 'S' to math.  In the US, math is an umbrella word, it just makes me wonder how the difference got started.

Mathematics is plural, why would the shortened version me singular?