Air

Air is not 'a' gas, it's a fluid. Lots and lots of things go into air and aren't bonded chemically to make it one homogenous substance.

Air is not 'a' gas, it's a fluid. Lots and lots of things go into air and aren't bonded chemically to make it one homogenous substance.

Saying air is not a gas is equivalent to saying soup is not a liquid or a brick is not a solid.

Quote from: The Knowledge on November 28, 2012, 12:11:48 PM

Saying air is not a gas is equivalent to saying soup is not a liquid or a brick is not a solid.

Soup is not a liquid.

Saying air is not a gas is equivalent to saying soup is not a liquid or a brick is not a solid.

Quote from: The Knowledge on November 28, 2012, 12:11:48 PM

Saying air is not a gas is equivalent to saying soup is not a liquid or a brick is not a solid.

Soup is not a liquid.

some liquids (vaporized).

Quote from: ThinkingMan on November 29, 2012, 05:54:13 AM

some liquids (vaporized).

Otherwise known as a gas.

Condensed vapor is not a gas.

Quote from: ThinkingMan on November 29, 2012, 06:30:04 AM

Condensed vapor is not a gas.

True, but that is not what you said. You said "liquid (vaporized)," meaning the liquid turned to gas.

Vapor is still not a gas. Vapor is a liquid that has been dispersed into the air. The clouds are water vapor.

A vapour (British spelling) or vapor (see spelling differences) is a substance in the gas phase at a temperature lower than its critical point.

1va·por noun \ˈvā-pər\
Definition of VAPOR
1: diffused matter (as smoke or fog) suspended floating in the air and impairing its transparency
2a : a substance in the gaseous state as distinguished from the liquid or solid state

Quote from: ThinkingMan on November 29, 2012, 08:01:01 AM

Vapor is still not a gas. Vapor is a liquid that has been dispersed into the air. The clouds are water vapor.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vapor

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A vapour (British spelling) or vapor (see spelling differences) is a substance in the gas phase at a temperature lower than its critical point.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/vapor

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1va·por noun \ˈvā-pər\
Definition of VAPOR
1: diffused matter (as smoke or fog) suspended floating in the air and impairing its transparency
2a : a substance in the gaseous state as distinguished from the liquid or solid state

One of your definitions fits what I've said.

Quote from: Lorddave on November 28, 2012, 06:32:38 PM

Quote from: The Knowledge on November 28, 2012, 12:11:48 PM

Saying air is not a gas is equivalent to saying soup is not a liquid or a brick is not a solid.

Soup is not a liquid.

Yep, and not all bricks are a solid either.

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1va·por noun \ˈvā-pər\
Definition of VAPOR
1: diffused matter (as smoke or fog) suspended floating in the air and impairing its transparency

Quote from: Irushwithscvs on November 29, 2012, 08:04:12 AM

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1va·por noun \ˈvā-pər\
Definition of VAPOR
1: diffused matter (as smoke or fog) suspended floating in the air and impairing its transparency

This one.

Again, you're being purposefully vague. Please plainly state why and how that definition supports you. I should not even have to say that.

1va·por noun \ˈvā-pər\
Definition of VAPOR
1: diffused matter (as smoke or fog) suspended floating in the air and impairing its transparency

Vapor is still not a gas. Vapor is a liquid that has been dispersed into the air. The clouds are water vapor.

Quote from: Mr Pseudonym on November 28, 2012, 07:48:13 PM

Quote from: Lorddave on November 28, 2012, 06:32:38 PM

Quote from: The Knowledge on November 28, 2012, 12:11:48 PM

Saying air is not a gas is equivalent to saying soup is not a liquid or a brick is not a solid.

Soup is not a liquid.

Yep, and not all bricks are a solid either.

I wasn't saying they were, just making an analogy. Similarly I don't doubt that Lord Dave will also say milk is not a liquid and Mr Pseudonym will say granite is also not a solid. But I think it would be hard to find anyone outside this forum who would agree with you. You have become so mired in the FES tradition of arguing points on semantics that you have lost the capacity to see how ludicrous you look doing it.

Don't like when people are vague, do you? Perhaps you should take your own advice to heart.

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1va·por noun \ˈvā-pər\
Definition of VAPOR
1: diffused matter (as smoke or fog) suspended floating in the air and impairing its transparency

Quote from: ThinkingMan on November 29, 2012, 08:01:01 AM

Vapor is still not a gas. Vapor is a liquid that has been dispersed into the air. The clouds are water vapor.

Does that help?

diffusedpast participle, past tense of dif·fuse (Verb)
Verb:   

    Spread or cause to spread over a wide area or among a large number of people.
    Become or cause (a fluid, gas, individual atom, etc.) to become intermingled with a substance by movement, typically in a specified...

Quote from: ThinkingMan on November 29, 2012, 01:13:11 PM

Don't like when people are vague, do you? Perhaps you should take your own advice to heart.

I'm never vague, which is why I am wrong so little of the time.

Quote from: ThinkingMan on November 29, 2012, 01:13:11 PM

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1va·por noun \ˈvā-pər\
Definition of VAPOR
1: diffused matter (as smoke or fog) suspended floating in the air and impairing its transparency

Quote from: ThinkingMan on November 29, 2012, 08:01:01 AM

Vapor is still not a gas. Vapor is a liquid that has been dispersed into the air. The clouds are water vapor.

Does that help?

Diffused matter suspended in air is called a gas.

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diffusedpast participle, past tense of dif·fuse (Verb)
Verb:   

    Spread or cause to spread over a wide area or among a large number of people.
    Become or cause (a fluid, gas, individual atom, etc.) to become intermingled with a substance by movement, typically in a specified...

Try again.  All this shenanigan is showing is even that when overwhelming incorrect you still pretend like nothing is happening. Its ironic that you call me the troll and then do this. Clearly you can't even comprehend the subject at hand when simple definitions boggle your mind like this.

Are you saying that clouds are not water diffused through the atmosphere?

Quote from: ThinkingMan on November 30, 2012, 06:27:02 AM

Are you saying that clouds are not water diffused through the atmosphere?

Yes, I am. If they were diffused throughout the atmosphere, they would be a gas, and they are not.

Where does it state that something diffused into the air need be a gas? Does that mean if salt is diffused in water it is now a liquid?

Quote from: ThinkingMan on November 30, 2012, 06:33:46 AM

Where does it state that something diffused into the air need be a gas? Does that mean if salt is diffused in water it is now a liquid?

Salt does not diffuse in water. You're thinking of the term dissolve.

Salt dissolves slowly.

It can be diffused into the medium (water) before it dissolves completely.

Quote from: ThinkingMan on November 30, 2012, 06:55:48 AM

Salt dissolves slowly.

Depends on the solvent.

Quote from: ThinkingMan on November 30, 2012, 06:55:48 AM

It can be diffused into the medium (water) before it dissolves completely.

This sentence makes no sense whatsoever.

You cannot stir the water so that the salt is diffused to a relatively even mixture (equilibrium) before it dissolves?

Quote from: ThinkingMan on November 30, 2012, 07:03:24 AM

You cannot stir the water so that the salt is diffused to a relatively even mixture (equilibrium) before it dissolves?

This question makes no sense.