Post Conspiracy photos

Being as you are an expert in photographic analysis I'd like to know what happened in this photo below.



It is from Virgin's very own website.
http://www.virgingalactic.com/

I'd like to know why the bottom picture shows the "rocket" with a rocket engine being supported by the other aircraft, and yet in the top picture when the rocket is under its own power, why no one thought to remove the engine cover?

My guess is shooooop!

Also, Bob, I said PHOTOS.

You don't think Virgin are shooping their photos? Interesting.

This is from the same page.

#" class="bbc_link" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">NASA LATEST IMAGES OF SATURN -- PHOTOSHOP?

#ws" class="bbc_link" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">NASA Photoshops Saturn's Moons

A quick explanation of how I made the image: I aligned the three frames and made a color composite for Titan, painting over some cosmic ray hits as I did so. Then I cropped out the bit of the image that included Dione, and aligned Dione's image separately; I cut out the resulting true color image of Dione and pasted it back in on the original in the position Dione occupied in the green-filter frame. I painted over the ghost Diones in the red and blue filters, then had to fix the bit of Titan's atmosphere that the red-filter image of Dione had covered. I fixed it using some atmosphere copied from the green filter image, brightened so that it matched the pixel values in the blue channel.

So your rebuttal is that it's a photoshop?

As I explained in my comment on the original posting, Cassini takes color pictures by snapping three sequential photos through red, green, and blue filters. In the time that separated the three frames, Dione moved, so if I did a simple color composite I would be able to make Titan look right, but not Dione; or Dione look right, but not Titan. So I aligned Dione, cut it out, and then aligned Titan, and then had to account for the missing bits of shadow where the bits of Dione had been in two of the three channels.

But, it's not just that it's not evidence of forgery; it's evidence in favor of a legitimate NASA.

Quote from: garygreen on September 10, 2012, 03:06:34 PM

But, it's not just that it's not evidence of forgery; it's evidence in favor of a legitimate NASA.

So crudely photoshopped pictures are evidence in favor of a legitimate NASA. That's rich.

As I explained in my comment on the original posting, Cassini takes color pictures by snapping three sequential photos through red, green, and blue filters. In the time that separated the three frames, Dione moved, so if I did a simple color composite I would be able to make Titan look right, but not Dione; or Dione look right, but not Titan. So I aligned Dione, cut it out, and then aligned Titan, and then had to account for the missing bits of shadow where the bits of Dione had been in two of the three channels.

To increase the images' scientific value, each camera on Cassini has two filter wheels designed to take images at specific wavelengths of light. The narrow-angle camera has 12 filters in each wheel for a total of 24 filters; the wide-angle has 9 in each wheel for a total of 18. Some filters only allow light of a certain color to reach the sensor. Combining three such images can produce a color image. The most scientifically interesting images are calibrated in order to turn the electrical signals that emerge from the CCDs into an absolute measure of brightness.

3.9.4. Readout Times
In the analysis of images, the time it takes the image data to be readout of the CCD is of interest because it relates to the buildup of dark current in the image. It is also of interest in the sequencing of images because, along with the duration of the prepare cycle, it determines the framing time, the time it takes to acquire an image and be ready for the next one.
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Finally, in the sequencing of images, a cardinal factor is the framing time: i.e., the sum of the prepare window duration plus the readout window duration. In the operation of the camera, both of these intervals come in quantized values. No matter how fast the readout of the CCD, the shortest readout window available is 6.525 s. The shortest prepare cycle is 4.475 s. Thus, the shortest possible  framing time in the Cassini ISS is 11 s (see Section 3.7).

Quote from: garygreen on September 10, 2012, 03:06:34 PM

But, it's not just that it's not evidence of forgery; it's evidence in favor of a legitimate NASA.

So crudely photoshopped pictures are evidence in favor of a legitimate NASA. That's rich.

The photos we see are exactly what we would expect out of this process, and the process is highly credible.

Here are some more highly creditable NASA photos:

Quote from: Tom Bishop on September 11, 2012, 08:07:04 AM

Here are some more highly creditable NASA photos:

"hey check it out we photoshopped the shit out of these images and now they look all photoshopped f u nasa pigs we got proof"

Color me unimpressed.  Get back to me when you find an incriminating email or something. 

Oh, and I said 'credible,' not 'creditable.'  Although, to be fair, they are also creditable.

Quote from: garygreen on September 11, 2012, 08:52:11 AM

Quote from: Tom Bishop on September 11, 2012, 08:07:04 AM

Here are some more highly creditable NASA photos:

"hey check it out we photoshopped the shit out of these images and now they look all photoshopped f u nasa pigs we got proof"

Color me unimpressed.  Get back to me when you find an incriminating email or something. 

Oh, and I said 'credible,' not 'creditable.'  Although, to be fair, they are also creditable.

It seems nothing will convince you anything that is not a pre-conceieved idea of yours. Tom has posted touched up photos that are part of the official record of their achievements. The official record shows that pictures are "touched up", in other words they have been faked. This is a little suspicious to me.

Tom has provided proof that these photos are composites.  That's it.  It's not evidence of fraud.  My brother's wedding photos were "touched up."  Is that evidence of a fraudulent wedding?

Quote from: garygreen on September 11, 2012, 09:45:06 AM

Tom has provided proof that these photos are composites.  That's it.  It's not evidence of fraud.  My brother's wedding photos were "touched up."  Is that evidence of a fraudulent wedding?

If the photos were found to have a fake face crudely pasted onto the bride, along evidence that the wedding was taken on a studio set, yes it would.

That's how it should look. If we saw something that looked like someone took a black paintbrush and scribbled out something in the background, then we would have evidence of photoshoppery.

The OP asked for evidence of NASA photoshopping pictures. Are you denying that the images I've posted were photoshopped?

Call me crazy, but the title of the thread leads me to believe that the OP is asking for photos that are evidence of a conspiracy to fake space travel.

I got bored, so I think I will try to debunk the hell out of every FE'r. Post photos you think that have been 'shoped or ones that prove FET true. FIRST HAND ONLY (SOURCE PHOTOS)! You can post a link if you prefer, it will make things easier to everybody. Also, try to not optimize neither use Photoshop to save or resize them. If they are too big, post link. Also, less saved = better.

Quote from: garygreen on September 11, 2012, 05:08:49 PM

Call me crazy, but the title of the thread leads me to believe that the OP is asking for photos that are evidence of a conspiracy to fake space travel.

Let me refresh your memory:

Quote from: OP

I got bored, so I think I will try to debunk the hell out of every FE'r. Post photos you think that have been 'shoped or ones that prove FET true. FIRST HAND ONLY (SOURCE PHOTOS)! You can post a link if you prefer, it will make things easier to everybody. Also, try to not optimize neither use Photoshop to save or resize them. If they are too big, post link. Also, less saved = better.