A question on gravity

This question is assuming the earth is round and gravity exists so don't come in here saying that the earth is flat and gravity is fake. I've been told that there's really no such thing as zero gravity in space. We're all just free falling. I was wondering if that was the case then does that mean the entire universe is falling through something? Or did I misheard and that only applies to orbits?

This question is assuming the earth is round and gravity exists so don't come in here saying that the earth is flat and gravity is fake. I've been told that there's really no such thing as zero gravity in space. We're all just free falling. I was wondering if that was the case then does that mean the entire universe is falling through something? Or did I misheard and that only applies to orbits?

When people say zero gravity they usually mean microgravity. Astronauts in the ISS didn't feel gravity, thus the incorrect zero g term comes up, but they are actually under something like 70 percent of the gravity at sea level.

Just want to add everything,(at least all that has been observed) is orbiting something. 

An example when we launch something towards Mars.

It orbits the Earth
then the Sun
then Mars
If a craft misses Mars for some reason it will continue in an orbit around the Sun.
Of course you can say the craft is always orbiting the Sun.

You will always be affected by gravity just the strength of it changes.

Anything that is orbiting is falling around something. 

Just want to add everything,(at least all that has been observed) is orbiting something. 

An example when we launch something towards Mars.

It orbits the Earth
then the Sun
then Mars
If a craft misses Mars for some reason it will continue in an orbit around the Sun.
Of course you can say the craft is always orbiting the Sun.

You will always be affected by gravity just the strength of it changes.

Anything that is orbiting is falling around something.

So is the entire universe is falling?

Sort of. Stars in galaxies are "falling" towards the super massive black hole in the center (with some unknowns we are still trying to figure out. But individual galaxies are sort of independant. Since gravity gets weaker at the square of distance, it fizzles out pretty quick.

I thought the world was rapidly expanding away from it's origin in globularism. Isn't that the opposite of falling?

individual galaxies are spreading out. But within galaxies, they are still "falling" towards the center.

The sun is losing millions of tons of mass per second according to thr orthodoxy. Wouldn't this lead to a larger orbit of planets?  Wouldn't this gradual increase also be the opposite of falling?

when we say falling, we mean that there is no normal force keeping object up, rather, they are always in a "freefall" but are moving so fast that they miss the planet/sun/black hole.

So there is no normal force holding the moon up, but it is going outward from the direction it is "falling". Clear as mud.

It's in orbit. It is not going inward or outward, it is in a pretty good circle. I think you are purposefully misreading what I say.

I think you'd better reread the Orthodoxy talking points. They seem to be convinced otherwise.

Quote from: Luke 22:35-38 on July 28, 2016, 11:55:20 AM

This question is assuming the earth is round and gravity exists so don't come in here saying that the earth is flat and gravity is fake. I've been told that there's really no such thing as zero gravity in space. We're all just free falling. I was wondering if that was the case then does that mean the entire universe is falling through something? Or did I misheard and that only applies to orbits?

When people say zero gravity they usually mean microgravity. Astronauts in the ISS didn't feel gravity, thus the incorrect zero g term comes up, but they are actually under something like 70 percent of the gravity at sea level.

Incorrect. Perfectly orbiting objects are in freefall. Its microgravity because its not 0g due to local mass etc. 70%?! lol. While the space station is affected supposedly by 90% of gravity compared to the surface it feels almost none of this due to it being in free fall.

Quote from: Woody on July 28, 2016, 04:39:58 PM

Just want to add everything,(at least all that has been observed) is orbiting something. 

An example when we launch something towards Mars.

It orbits the Earth
then the Sun
then Mars
If a craft misses Mars for some reason it will continue in an orbit around the Sun.
Of course you can say the craft is always orbiting the Sun.

You will always be affected by gravity just the strength of it changes.

Anything that is orbiting is falling around something.

So is the entire universe is falling?

Imagine throwing a ball on Earth.

When you release it it begins to slow down until it reaches its highest point.
When it passes that point it begins to accelerate towards the Earth until it hits the ground.

Now imagine throwing a ball in space near Earth.

It will behave the same way.

When it passes the lowest point of the orbit it is slowing down.

When it passes the highest it begins speeding up.

Throw it fast enough and it will continue to orbit. 

Quote from: sokarul on July 28, 2016, 02:00:08 PM

Quote from: Luke 22:35-38 on July 28, 2016, 11:55:20 AM

This question is assuming the earth is round and gravity exists so don't come in here saying that the earth is flat and gravity is fake. I've been told that there's really no such thing as zero gravity in space. We're all just free falling. I was wondering if that was the case then does that mean the entire universe is falling through something? Or did I misheard and that only applies to orbits?

When people say zero gravity they usually mean microgravity. Astronauts in the ISS didn't feel gravity, thus the incorrect zero g term comes up, but they are actually under something like 70 percent of the gravity at sea level.

Incorrect.

Let's see.

Perfectly orbiting objects are in freefall.

Where did I say otherwise?

Its microgravity because its not 0g due to local mass etc.

Where did I say otherwise?

70%?! lol.

I didn't check my 70% number.

While the space station is affected supposedly by 90% of gravity compared to the surface it feels almost none of this due to it being in free fall.

Where did I say otherwise?

Well that was fun.

The sun is losing millions of tons of mass per second according to thr orthodoxy. Wouldn't this lead to a larger orbit of planets?  Wouldn't this gradual increase also be the opposite of falling?

You don't accept the nuclear fusion of the sun? That's odd. What's that got to do with FET? Or do you just reject most of mainstream physics per se?

Just curious.

This question is assuming the earth is round and gravity exists so don't come in here saying that the earth is flat and gravity is fake. I've been told that there's really no such thing as zero gravity in space. We're all just free falling. I was wondering if that was the case then does that mean the entire universe is falling through something? Or did I misheard and that only applies to orbits?

We are all falling towards the Great Attractor.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Attractor

One might clear up the definition of falling here. Einstein pointed out that we are simply moving in straight lines through spacetime, which is curved by mass, so technically we are all falling (well, through the time-dimension).
We would not be able to feel earth's gravity, if there was not this huge object (the ground) stopping us.

So there might be points in space with zero-gravity (something equivalent to the lagrange-points, but with all stars and planets etc. combined), but one would not be able to measure it. The only thing that one can measure is the difference between your acceleration and the gravitational pull, which is zero when there is nothing stopping you.

Quote from: Ski on July 28, 2016, 05:56:26 PM

The sun is losing millions of tons of mass per second according to thr orthodoxy. Wouldn't this lead to a larger orbit of planets?  Wouldn't this gradual increase also be the opposite of falling?

You don't accept the nuclear fusion of the sun? That's odd. What's that got to do with FET? Or do you just reject most of mainstream physics per se?

Just curious.

The OP specifically said he wanted RE answers, not FE answers.  Flat Earthers know a lot of roundly answers, believe it or not.