The earth is flat

Why are people trampling Happy Forever? he's clearly got some earth flattening proof. we just need to give him time to get it all compiled.

 

Why are people trampling Happy Forever? he's clearly got some earth flattening proof. we just need to give him time to get it all compiled.

Perhaps it will be included as a chapter in John Davis' book.

the earth is indeed flat.....
it said also in holy book (quran and al-kitab)
and also via physic experiment

the earth is indeed flat.....
it said also in holy book (quran and al-kitab)
and also via physic experiment

I assume you mean "physics experiment". I was wondering what experiment this was, who did it, and if you could perhaps humor and show us all the data from this experiment for community validation?

the earth is indeed flat.....
it said also in holy book (quran and al-kitab)
and also via physic experiment

How do you know?

I'd like to see this "physic experiment”.

And mixing religion with science isn't a good idea. A wrong reading of a religious book is a very bad idea.

Why is mixing religion and science a bad idea (or not a good one)? Maybe people will get angry, but the way I interpret religion is a culture's way of attempting to explain phenomena they did not have the technological or mathematical capability of understanding.

Why is mixing religion and science a bad idea (or not a good one)? Maybe people will get angry, but the way I interpret religion is a culture's way of attempting to explain phenomena they did not have the technological or mathematical capability of understanding.

You sat it: its a way of explaining something beyond someone's grasp: it doesn't lead to science.

And the prism of religion can distort too much, like people saying that the Coran and the Bible prove that the Earth is flat.

I see what you're saying now. It's spelled Koran though. Just thought you should know lol. I don't really try to mix them, I just try and see the points where they seem to mesh or say something similar, or the points where they clearly DO NOT contradict one another, when other people say they do. Like a flat earth, evolution, or the big bang.

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Quote from: Happy Forever on July 05, 2012, 04:16:38 PM

Quote from: BoatswainsMate on July 05, 2012, 04:03:43 PM

Trolling on an alt, that is about all I can conclude from this and any of the other posts by Happy. you tell a great story, but bring to the table no research. You claim many things, but no proof included.

Also, if you have been to college why is your grammer so bad. You have so many mistakes in your writing and you claim to provide research to professors and scientists... They dismiss you most likely because the writing is atrocious.

Not trolling. You're right, I didn't show you the research but it is not a secret, It is in a group in facebook with its name "Kol fi Falak Yasbahoun". It is in Arabic and will translate it but not now cuz I extending it and explaining more with more clear simple facts.

The problem is that I don't feel interested to continue, what I face and see here is not easy for any. I only wanted from this site to read some words to provoke me to continue so thank you for your words, hope will have an effect on me.

I anxiously await the translation into English. If it is true and real research I will stand with you to proclaim it.

If you stand with him you guys gonna be called Hoppy and Happy lol

Irrelevant.

Well that post was completely pointless Archi. But anyway, does anyone know what happened to Happy Forever? I supposed he's been up all day and all night for days almost completely ignoring the people he made promises of truth to, compiling all of his works and translating them into English (with very poor grammar).

If this is true, I'm still here waiting. I'm probably the only one still here waiting, everyone else got bored and left.

Well that post was completely pointless Archi. But anyway, does anyone know what happened to Happy Forever? I supposed he's been up all day and all night for days almost completely ignoring the people he made promises of truth to, compiling all of his works and translating them into English (with very poor grammar).

If this is true, I'm still here waiting. I'm probably the only one still here waiting, everyone else got bored and left.

You must have patience while seeking truth. As they say patience is a virtue.
  BTW, Hi Archie. Were you and Dr Crustinator able to escape Ecuador without harm?

I don't seek truth, actually. I seek supportable evidence. Science does not have the capability of revealing "truth". Only theories. Very rarely does a scientific theory go past that stage. Even what they teach in elementary school science class, which people take for granted as "fact", is usually only considered a theory.

I have posted proof of FE, was that not enough?

Where is this proof? Provide a link perhaps?

I don't seek truth, actually. I seek supportable evidence. Science does not have the capability of revealing "truth". Only theories. Very rarely does a scientific theory go past that stage. Even what they teach in elementary school science class, which people take for granted as "fact", is usually only considered a theory.

What they teach in secondary is newtonian mechanics, is it not?

though I agree with you, on the not looking for truth thing. the problem with a lot or religions is they think that a claim to some knowledge should come with knowing everything, because they want their anxiety to abate. That's what they find scary about science. They would rather believe something that offers them a "theory of everything" rather than believe something that is progressive, changeable and uncertain; this is in intinsic disagreement with the fundemental ethic of traditionalism in religion.


[Edit]: disclaimer, this is such a bad representation of what I wanted to say, i'm not gonna bother editing it, I'm sure you get the gist.

Quote from: ThinkingMan on July 11, 2012, 12:27:03 PM

I don't seek truth, actually. I seek supportable evidence. Science does not have the capability of revealing "truth". Only theories. Very rarely does a scientific theory go past that stage. Even what they teach in elementary school science class, which people take for granted as "fact", is usually only considered a theory.

What they teach in secondary is newtonian mechanics, is it not?

though I agree with you, on the not looking for truth thing. the problem with a lot or religions is they think that a claim to some knowledge should come with knowing everything, because they want their anxiety to abate, that's what they find scary about science, so they would rather beleive something that offers them a "theory of everything" rather than believe something that is progressive and changeable, uncertain, this is in intinsic disagreement with the fundemental ethic of traditionalism in religion.

Newtonian, and it delves a bit into General Relativity. When I say a bit, I mean it just makes the tiniest scratch on the surface. I remember them teaching us E=mc². In high school they got more into relativity, but still just scratching the surface, as there's a lot of information there. I'm no physicist. Just a measly engineer. Well... In school for engineering. But I learned a lot about nuclear physics in the 5th grade I think I scared my teachers. I knew about quarks and they said "what's a quark? do you mean a cork?"

Quote from: New Earth on July 05, 2012, 09:45:24 PM

Quote from: hoppy on July 05, 2012, 05:26:18 PM

Quote from: Happy Forever on July 05, 2012, 04:16:38 PM

Quote from: BoatswainsMate on July 05, 2012, 04:03:43 PM

Trolling on an alt, that is about all I can conclude from this and any of the other posts by Happy. you tell a great story, but bring to the table no research. You claim many things, but no proof included.

Also, if you have been to college why is your grammer so bad. You have so many mistakes in your writing and you claim to provide research to professors and scientists... They dismiss you most likely because the writing is atrocious.

Not trolling. You're right, I didn't show you the research but it is not a secret, It is in a group in facebook with its name "Kol fi Falak Yasbahoun". It is in Arabic and will translate it but not now cuz I extending it and explaining more with more clear simple facts.

The problem is that I don't feel interested to continue, what I face and see here is not easy for any. I only wanted from this site to read some words to provoke me to continue so thank you for your words, hope will have an effect on me.

I anxiously await the translation into English. If it is true and real research I will stand with you to proclaim it.

If you stand with him you guys gonna be called Hoppy and Happy lol

Irrelevant.

Impossible.

Quote from: ThinkingMan on July 11, 2012, 12:09:44 PM

Well that post was completely pointless Archi. But anyway, does anyone know what happened to Happy Forever? I supposed he's been up all day and all night for days almost completely ignoring the people he made promises of truth to, compiling all of his works and translating them into English (with very poor grammar).

If this is true, I'm still here waiting. I'm probably the only one still here waiting, everyone else got bored and left.

You must have patience while seeking truth. As they say patience is a virtue.
  BTW, Hi Archie. Were you and Dr Crustinator able to escape Ecuador without harm?

I have been in Saudi Arabia, just north of Rub' Al Khali.  I returned ungarmed however it was a tough journey after recovery from my addiction to diet pills.  I have important imformation regarding my investigations and subsequent discoveries to share with all of you at a later time.  I am soon going to the doctor today to pick up my new prosthetic leg, as you know I lost one of my legs in the gulf of mexico while working as a commercial fisherman out of New Orleans.  Thank you for your concern brother Hoppy.

The Healer heals you insha Allah Mr Archibald


Sorry guys, no more posts from me, I cannot say more that what I said.

Maybe you will hear about that research "Kol Fi Falak Yasbahoun" if finished or if I am still alive.

Pray for me.

Salam

oh dear another let down then happy one day somebody will blow us away. be it a real astronaut or a flat earth cartographer. one day, one day...

There is great wisdom to be found in the Books of Man.

There is great wisdom to be found in the Books of Man.

  Yes, the Books of Man, as opposed to the books written by dinosaurs, I suppose.

Are you categorically stating that no other species or life form has ever written a book or something of equivalent meaning/significance?

Are you categorically stating that no other species or life form has ever written a book or something of equivalent meaning/significance?

Not that I'm aware of, so it'd be kinda hard to read their books if we don't know if they even exist.

Nice try at sounding Profound, though.  I'm sure you'll get there some day.

Quote from: Lord Wilmore on July 12, 2012, 08:09:29 PM

Are you categorically stating that no other species or life form has ever written a book or something of equivalent meaning/significance?

Not that I'm aware of, so it'd be kinda hard to read their books if we don't know if they even exist.

Nice try at sounding Profound, though.  I'm sure you'll get there some day.

Answer the question.

  Oh lordy, Wilmore, I'm just making fun of you. 

Oh lordy, Wilmore, I'm just making fun of you.

So you refuse to answer the question. I see.

Quote from: Cat Earth Theory on July 12, 2012, 08:18:34 PM

Oh lordy, Wilmore, I'm just making fun of you.

So you refuse to answer the question. I see.

The answer is already in my reply.  I said that I'm not aware of any books written by other species, which leaves open the possibility that other species have written books.  So the answer is clearly no.

This confirms my doubts about your ability to comprehend what you read.

The answer is already in my reply.  I said that I'm not aware of any books written by other species, which leaves open the possibility that other species have written books.  So the answer is clearly no.

This confirms my doubts about your ability to comprehend what you read.

On the contrary. I asked whether you were "categorically stating that no other species or life form has ever written a book or something of equivalent meaning/significance". Now, "categorically" means without exception or qualification. Leaving open possibilities such as those you mention above is a qualification. If your answer to my question is "no", then you cannot at the same time admit such a possibility.


So you have contradicted yourself. Please clarify.