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Re: God Hates You
« Reply #90 on: June 03, 2012, 01:26:01 PM »
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So the bible is wrong?

If the Catholics changed their bible, it is.
How would you know if they did?

You got me.  I've never read a Catholic bible.   How much did it change from the Christian version?

Which version is the "Christian" version?

The King James Version is the real bible

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Re: God Hates You
« Reply #91 on: June 03, 2012, 01:27:06 PM »
Quote from: Nomad on June 03, 2012, 10:58:55 AM
The new Catholic church is most certainly NOT the same Catholic church that compiled the bible.

I dunno.. it's always been corrupt.
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Re: God Hates You
« Reply #92 on: June 03, 2012, 01:29:04 PM »
Quote from: hoppy on June 03, 2012, 01:26:01 PM
Quote from: Nomad on June 03, 2012, 01:19:02 PM
Quote from: WardoggKC130FE on June 03, 2012, 05:58:07 AM
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So the bible is wrong?

If the Catholics changed their bible, it is.
How would you know if they did?

You got me.  I've never read a Catholic bible.   How much did it change from the Christian version?

Which version is the "Christian" version?
The King James Version is the real bible


So the version the King James version was taken from wasn't a real bible?
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Re: God Hates You
« Reply #93 on: June 03, 2012, 01:40:33 PM »
The KJV was translated from the Textus Receptus of whoch there are thousands upon thousands of copies that all agree with each other. The newer translations come from other Greek and Hebrew manuscripts, which some people say are older and therefore more reliable. I forget what the other manuscripts are called, the differnces seem small at first. The differences are actually glaring.
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Re: God Hates You
« Reply #94 on: June 03, 2012, 01:48:06 PM »
Part of the KJV was translated from the Vulgate, as well. 
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Quote from: Thork on November 27, 2012, 12:25:43 PM
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Re: God Hates You
« Reply #95 on: June 03, 2012, 02:01:31 PM »
Quote from: Space Cowgirl on June 03, 2012, 01:27:06 PM
Quote from: Nomad on June 03, 2012, 10:58:55 AM
The new Catholic church is most certainly NOT the same Catholic church that compiled the bible.

I dunno.. it's always been corrupt.

There's been at least two major paradigm shifts in the Catholic church in its inception.  From what I understand, the Lutheran church is roughly close to what it had started like.  But that information came from a Lutheran minister, and I haven't found a whole lot of reason to trust any minister's word from any sect of Christianity.

Quote from: hoppy on June 03, 2012, 01:40:33 PM
The KJV was translated from the Textus Receptus of whoch there are thousands upon thousands of copies that all agree with each other. The newer translations come from other Greek and Hebrew manuscripts, which some people say are older and therefore more reliable. I forget what the other manuscripts are called, the differnces seem small at first. The differences are actually glaring.

Seems there is a bit of contention amongst "Christians" as to which is the "real" bible then.
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Re: God Hates You
« Reply #96 on: June 03, 2012, 03:10:08 PM »
So if original sin is a fraud, can we just submit a petition to God to let us back in to the Garden of Eden and remove the pain from childbirth?
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Re: God Hates You
« Reply #97 on: June 03, 2012, 04:12:20 PM »
No silly, girls are terrible.
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Re: God Hates You
« Reply #98 on: June 03, 2012, 04:13:31 PM »
Quote from: Space Cowgirl on June 03, 2012, 04:12:20 PM
No silly, girls are terrible.

Even girls agree.
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Re: God Hates You
« Reply #99 on: June 04, 2012, 12:18:12 AM »
Quote from: Nomad on June 03, 2012, 10:58:55 AM
The new Catholic church is most certainly NOT the same Catholic church that compiled the bible.

err...

The Catholic church diddn't compile the bible though. It was the Eastern Roman Empire which first compiled the Bible, giving rise to the Orthodox Church (now known as Eastern/Greek Orthodox)

Everyone who follows the teachings of Jesus of Nazareth is a Christian. Catholics do this, egro they are christian. So do Orthodox christians, Baptists, Born Agains, Anglicans, Christain Athiests, etc...

Thems the breaks. You might not think they are the "best" version of christians but they are still christians.




In my case I think you are all full of shit except the Christian Athiests who I simply have a few philosophical differences with.
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Re: God Hates You
« Reply #100 on: June 04, 2012, 12:44:53 AM »
Christian Atheist seems to be a false label. Jesus emphasized God in many of his teachings, so I'm not sure how you can reject such a component of a philosophy and yet still call it by its name.
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Re: God Hates You
« Reply #101 on: June 04, 2012, 01:53:02 AM »
Quote from: Vindictus on June 04, 2012, 12:44:53 AM
Christian Atheist seems to be a false label. Jesus emphasized God in many of his teachings, so I'm not sure how you can reject such a component of a philosophy and yet still call it by its name.

One can agree with a person's philosophies and moral teachings while still thinking they are wrong on other subjects, such as the existance of god.

Not to mention that Christian Athiests tend to hold the opinion that the church greatly exagurated Jesus's emphasis on God when they chose which books to include in the bible.
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Re: God Hates You
« Reply #102 on: June 07, 2012, 11:51:53 AM »
Quote from: Demouse on June 04, 2012, 12:18:12 AM
Everyone who follows the teachings of Jesus of Nazareth is a Christian.
Not by my definition, but okay. Reading the rest of your posts, an argument wouldn't go anywhere.

Also, are you implying that anyone who doesn't follow Jesus' teaches isn't Christian? Jesus was depicted as having never condemned homosexuals and was very politically inactive. If so, that would make all those gay rights opponents non-Christian.
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Re: God Hates You
« Reply #103 on: June 07, 2012, 01:10:26 PM »
Jesus is the word made flesh, the word(bible ) condemns homosexuality and all sin.
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Re: God Hates You
« Reply #104 on: June 07, 2012, 01:30:50 PM »
It's worth pointing out that Jesus himself was remarkably silent on the subject of homosexuality.  Also that whole bit about casting stones, though there's plenty of evidence that story was a later addition to the New Testament.
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Re: God Hates You
« Reply #105 on: June 07, 2012, 02:17:33 PM »
Quote from: hoppy on June 07, 2012, 01:10:26 PM
Jesus is the word made flesh, the word(bible ) condemns homosexuality and all sin.

The bible also condemns tattoos and eating pork.  Does that mean the government should ban those things as well?
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« Reply #106 on: June 07, 2012, 02:21:21 PM »
Quote from: Marcus Aurelius on June 07, 2012, 02:17:33 PM
The bible also condemns tattoos

Leviticus 19:28 "You shall not make any cuts in your body for the dead nor make any tattoo marks on yourselves: I am the Lord."

Damn. You live and learn. Dann's gonna burn like a hog on a spit. He's taking Taters with him.
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Re: God Hates You
« Reply #107 on: June 07, 2012, 02:57:11 PM »
You forgot the mixed wool and linen bit.
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Re: God Hates You
« Reply #108 on: June 07, 2012, 04:11:20 PM »
I seriously want to know, since the prevalent argument on this forum for those who are for the government to ban gay marriage is that the bible says it's immoral.  Should the government ban tattoos, mixed cloth, shaving, and eating pork?  Where's the outrage for that stuff being permitted even though it is a clear violation of God's law?
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Re: God Hates You
« Reply #109 on: June 07, 2012, 05:41:08 PM »
Marriage has always been between a man and a woman, if people want to be gay go ahead. You don't need to be married.
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Re: God Hates You
« Reply #110 on: June 07, 2012, 05:44:26 PM »
Quote from: hoppy on June 07, 2012, 05:41:08 PM
Marriage has always been between a man and a woman, if people want to be gay go ahead. You don't need to be married.

I suppose that in your country marriage doesn't offer any tangible benefits, but we're talking about this within the framework of industrialized nations, sorry. Are you on the equator, by any chance?
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Re: God Hates You
« Reply #111 on: June 07, 2012, 06:27:28 PM »
Quote from: hoppy on June 07, 2012, 05:41:08 PM
Marriage has always been between a man and a woman, if people want to be gay go ahead. You don't need to be married.
Which type?

Also:
False.
Sometimes it's between a man and many women.
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Re: God Hates You
« Reply #112 on: June 07, 2012, 07:12:55 PM »
Quote from: hoppy on June 07, 2012, 05:41:08 PM
Marriage has always been between a man and a woman

...and?  There was a time in history when marriage had always been between those whose parents reached a financial agreement.  And there was a time in history when marriage had always been between those of the same race.  The fact that marriage has always been done a certain way is not in and of itself a valid argument for keeping that way.

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if people want to be gay go ahead. You don't need to be married.

They don't need to be married any more or less than straight people do.  Around and About has raised a good point about why people will want the legal endorsement of marriage, but a more simple response to this is to ask you why you're singling out gay people as not needing marriage.
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Re: God Hates You
« Reply #113 on: June 07, 2012, 07:16:20 PM »
Quote from: ﮎingulaЯiτy on June 07, 2012, 11:51:53 AM
Quote from: Demouse on June 04, 2012, 12:18:12 AM
Everyone who follows the teachings of Jesus of Nazareth is a Christian.
Not by my definition, but okay. Reading the rest of your posts, an argument wouldn't go anywhere.

Also, are you implying that anyone who doesn't follow Jesus' teaches isn't Christian? Jesus was depicted as having never condemned homosexuals and was very politically inactive. If so, that would make all those gay rights opponents non-Christian.

No because at no point did he specifically endorse it. So their opinion on homosexuality has no bearing on wheather they count as christians or not. They consider Jesus to be the messiah and follow his explicit instructions so far as they interpret them.

After personally interpreting what Jesus taught if you then agree with him and follow those teachings then you are a Christian.


I should point out that I am personally not a Christian.
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Re: God Hates You
« Reply #114 on: June 07, 2012, 07:37:09 PM »
Quote from: hoppy on June 07, 2012, 05:41:08 PM
Marriage has always been between a man and a woman, if people want to be gay go ahead. You don't need to be married.

You didn't answer my question.  Skin is naturally not tattooed, people don't need to ink themselves with a needle.
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Re: God Hates You
« Reply #115 on: June 08, 2012, 01:34:25 AM »
Quote from: hoppy on June 07, 2012, 05:41:08 PM
Marriage has always been between a man and a woman, if people want to be gay go ahead. You don't need to be married.

Wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong.

1 Kings 11 "[Solomon] had seven hundred wives, princesses, and three hundred concubines; and his wives turned away his heart. "

In modern India, Nepal and Tibet, one woman can marry several men (often brothers)
http://articles.cnn.com/2008-10-24/world/polygamy.investigation_1_younger-brother-husbands-village?_s=PM:WORLD

The  Kerista Village commune in San Francisco, as well as many Pacific communities enjoy or enjoyed group marriages

The type of marriages practiced around the world has changed wildly over centuries and  geography, to say it has 'always' been 1m/1f is either dishonest or laughably ignorant.
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Re: God Hates You
« Reply #116 on: June 08, 2012, 03:14:53 AM »
Quote from: Lorddave on May 26, 2012, 08:45:56 AM
It's true.   Here is my reasoning.

Sin.  What is sin?  Sin is going against God's will.

Now, according to the three Middle Eastern Religions, humans are born sinners.

How can we be born sinners if we're born as babies?  All babies do is eat, cry and poop.  Hardly sin category.  So what did we do as babies that made us sinners?

The only thing we did was be born.  So the only logical conclusion is that being born is a sin.

Why would being born be against God's will?  Well, if God hates you and wishes you weren't born, that would be against his will.

Therefore:
God Hates You.

The "original sin" doctrine was started by the descendants of Osiris (catholic religion, jesuits, vatican); it was they who invented the New Testament, the Pauline Epistles, and much more.


An extraordinary demonstration on how the Pauline Epistles were completely falsified can be found here:

http://www.egodeath.com/edwinjohnsonpaulineepistles.htm


Christ was not a Jew, nor did he ever set foot in Jerusalem.


http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=45731.msg1131078#msg1131078




Trojan crescent visible, as Christ enters the city of Constantinopole




Pilate wearing a turban, the conspirators changed the times and the location of the events




JERUSALEM, ACTUALLY TROY/CONSTANTINOPOLE, WITH THE HAGIA SOPHIA IN THE BACKGROUND



To understand why Jerusalem = Troy = Constantinopole:

Please read the following sections from History: Fiction or Science? by A. Fomenko, chapter 1:

9.1. Archaeology and the Old Testament
9.2. Archaeology and the New Testament
10. Ancient historical events: geographic localization issues
10.1. The locations of Troy and Babylon.

http://books.google.ro/books?id=YcjFAV4WZ9MC&printsec=frontcover&dq=history+science+or+fiction&hl=en&sa=X&ei=YNHRT4CtL9TO4QT5k9WZAw&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q=history%20science%20or%20fiction&f=false
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Re: God Hates You
« Reply #117 on: June 08, 2012, 03:18:25 AM »
Who drew those illustrations? I ask because I don't recall seeing any illustrations directly from people who saw Jesus.
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Re: God Hates You
« Reply #118 on: June 08, 2012, 03:29:19 AM »
The illustrations are taken from Aprakos Evangelium, believe it or not.

Russian Bible, The Bible of 1499, and the Synodal Translation of the Bible, 10 vols., published by the Muscovite Patriarchy; the illustrations themselves were taken from volume 7 of the work, the New Testament.



This is what was known at that time: that Christ was a thracian, and that he was crucified at Constantinopole, the temple of Solomon was actually the Hagia Sophia.


The conspirators changed the location of the story, and the times, to their advantage.


Aprakos Evangelium = Slavonic Scripture

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=de&u=http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ostromir-Evangelium&ei=EdPRT4aIAqqn4gTY5vyMAw&sa=X&oi=translate&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CEsQ7gEwAA&prev=/search%3Fq%3Daprakos%2Bevangelium%2Bostromir%26hl%3Den%26biw%3D1024%26bih%3D677%26prmd%3Dimvnsb


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Re: God Hates You
« Reply #119 on: June 08, 2012, 03:37:09 AM »
Why would anyone trust those illustrations?
That's like looking at the Last Supper and assuming that's what it looked like.

If anything the whole thing looks Muslim more so than Roman.

Especially since I can't find anything related to the Trojan crescent.

To me it looks like someone's attempt to draw what they thought things looked like back then.
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