Map for Flat Earth used all the time today

Amateur Radio operators use a map to get a bearing to the station they want to communicate with.
The map for my local can be found here: http://www.dxzone.com/cgi-bin/dir/jump2.cgi?ID=14600
The round earthers put in Antartica, though not knowing how big the ice wall really is in space time.

If you know your grid coordinates you can create your own map.

The map puts your location in the center of a flat earth.

Being the Earth is Flat, there are some strange phenomena going on for sure.

To wit
Hawaii is due west of my location on a flat map. On a sphere it shoud be south west, 'cause I'm at 42 some degrees latitutde and Hawaii is around 20 degrees latitude.
Japan should be due west, but on a flat map it's northwest
So the earth is flat in my world of Amateur Radio.

what do you mean by "how big the ice wall really is in space time" given that "space time" is a measurement of time relative to the velocity of an object in motion in a gravitational field? are you saying this "ice wall" is somehow relative to 4 dimensions even though it's of a fixed velocity relative to yourself? like, that this ice wall is big in time?

I get the distinct impression you have little idea what you mean by "space time"
just saying...

Those maps are based on RE maps, not FE maps.

Also, I get the feeling that you're erroneously equating "left" with west, "right" with east, etc.  The cardinal directions always stay the same.  It's just the focus of the map that changes.

what do you mean by "how big the ice wall really is in space time" given that "space time" is a measurement of time relative to the velocity of an object in motion in a gravitational field? are you saying this "ice wall" is somehow relative to 4 dimensions even though it's of a fixed velocity relative to yourself? like, that this ice wall is big in time?

I get the distinct impression you have little idea what you mean by "space time"
just saying...

I was talking about their knowledge becaue obviously they don't know the  earth is flat.

Those maps are based on RE maps, not FE maps.

Can you support your claim with some facts?

Quote from: EmperorZhark on May 29, 2012, 05:38:53 AM

Those maps are based on RE maps, not FE maps.

Can you support your claim with some facts?

So far, I've never seen a decent FE map (proportions, distances). All I've seen, including your so-called FE maps, are projection of a sphere on a plane (which explains the distorsions).

The map puts your location in the center of a flat earth.

The map generator creates an Az. map around your coordinates.  The keys what you said above, your location is at the center.  The program basically takes your point on a globe and creates an azimuthal equidistant projection.  This creates accurate straight line distances from the center position to other positions.  While it does create distortions which render distances between any other two points potentially innacurate, it can be a useful tool.  This is why your position is always at the center.

The maps created by that generator are projections created from a globe.

I still say Hawaii is West of my location on a flat earth on a spheroid earth it is Southwest I point my antenna Southwest I can't contact Hawaii I have to point my antenna West. Those are the facts and I'm sticking to them.  This kind of evidence doesn't lie and is irrefutable.

I still say Hawaii is West of my location on a flat earth on a spheroid earth it is Southwest I point my antenna Southwest I can't contact Hawaii I have to point my antenna West. Those are the facts and I'm sticking to them.  This kind of evidence doesn't lie and is irrefutable.

As if evidence was enough or a FE'er!

I still say Hawaii is West of my location on a flat earth on a spheroid earth it is Southwest I point my antenna Southwest I can't contact Hawaii I have to point my antenna West. Those are the facts and I'm sticking to them.  This kind of evidence doesn't lie and is irrefutable.

Again, I think you are picturing this wrong.

What "flat earth" has Hawaii due West of you?  The Az map from your link?  Again, that program creates a map based on a globe which positions things in straight lines from you based on a given direction you face from your position according to a compass.

On the Earth, when you are on the equator and face due West or East according to the magnetic compass, you are basically looking down the latidude line.  It stretches out due East and West from your position.  However, when you are North of the equator and you face due West according to the compass you are facing a direction directly perpendicular to a North magnetic compass heading.  This does not, in fact, face along the latidude line.  Because the latitude lines circle the Earth at a given distance from the poles, the latitude lines would not run in a straight line from a given point when facing due East or West, except on the equator.  And so, when you are facing West above the equator a straight line on a map in the direction you are facing would lead to a point South-West of your position.

It's a bit hard to grasp.  Which is precisely the reason for the map generator in the link you provided.  You give it your position, and it generates a map which shows what a straight line would cross in any given heading from your position.  This allows radio operators (etc.) to easily gauge what direction to point an antenna from their location in order to be directly pointing at any other location on Earth.

Demonstrating MrT's point using google earth.

I can make a ruler showing the shortest distance between two points.  If I start on hawaii, I can drag the end to the 42 degree line in such a way that when it meets that line, it becomes parallel to it, or tangent to it.  This means that a compass pointing directly west will point along that line towards Hawaii.