Obama is for gay marriage

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WardoggKC130FE

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Obama is for gay marriage
« on: May 10, 2012, 06:15:18 AM »
The question is why come out of the closet now with it.

Political genius or suicide?  Considering over half of Amerikkkans are against it.

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Re: Obama is for gay marriage
« Reply #1 on: May 10, 2012, 06:23:36 AM »
Perhaps he is looking to see what the public reaction may be and then to plan his next move. I think the intention is to at least make genuine conversation in political circles about this. He won't be vilified for it and can easily say it won't be any election issue or promise.

Also, it may force other candidates now to have a stance on this issue, which again, may divide the voting public further. I think it may turn out to be a smart election strategy rather then any sort of real progress. (hoping I am wrong about the last bit)
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Re: Obama is for gay marriage
« Reply #2 on: May 10, 2012, 06:13:59 PM »
Considering over half of Amerikkkans are against it.

Source?

Also, this has practically no impact on public policy, marriage laws are still entirely up to legislatures. The only people he would offend with this would be bigots who wouldn't have voted for him in the first place.
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Re: Obama is for gay marriage
« Reply #3 on: May 10, 2012, 06:31:16 PM »
The only people he would offend with this would be bigots who wouldn't have voted for him in the first place.

That was subtle.

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Re: Obama is for gay marriage
« Reply #4 on: May 10, 2012, 06:44:16 PM »
PROTECT MARRIAGE! BAN DIVORCE!

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Re: Obama is for gay marriage
« Reply #5 on: May 10, 2012, 07:11:43 PM »
Considering over half of Amerikkkans are against it.

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Probably Fox News.  Their results always skew in the conservative direction.

A poll I read recently said that more than 50% were in favor of legalizing gay marriage, 30-something% were against it, and 9% were undecided.

I do think there's a strong chance this will be political suicide.  Sure the liberals will love it, but they would have voted for him anyway.  I can see a significant enough percentage of moderates who will not be happy with it that, as close as this race looks like it will be, he could lose enough support to win.
Where did you educate the biology, in toulet?

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Re: Obama is for gay marriage
« Reply #6 on: May 10, 2012, 10:57:57 PM »
I'll put it this way, Obama will probably motivate his base more than Romney will motivate his base. It's all about voter turnout. Lots of liberals like Obama, and I can't see lots of conservatives liking Romney, especially with everything we keep finding out about him, and that he has held pretty much every position on every issue at some point. I don't think he will motivate enough Republicans to vote for him.
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« Reply #7 on: May 11, 2012, 02:37:20 AM »
So how has the fallout been reported in America? I am guessing it may have now been played down or isn't being followed up?
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Re: Obama is for gay marriage
« Reply #8 on: May 11, 2012, 05:38:38 AM »
The problem is the swing states, which are critical for winning obviously.  Many of these swing states, NC being one of them, are generally opposed to same sex marriage.  Think about that 61% of voters in NC that Obama probably angered with this.  I think this is why he has been so reluctant to take any stand on the issue, he has kept the water muddy for a reason.  Thanks to Biden though, the press and his base had basically forced his hand.  By pleasing his base, he may lose ground in the states that matter.

I can see folks like Karl Rove going to NC and other swing states and using this to attack Obama there and damage popularity, he basically gave them ammo.

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« Reply #9 on: May 11, 2012, 06:12:20 AM »
Meh.
Politics is so polarized right now I doubt it really matters. You either vote democrat or you vote republican. Satan and Jesus could be the candidates and we'd still vote along party lines.



Also:
Marriage is about the union of souls.
Souls are genderless.
Therefore: marriage between gays should be ok in the eyes of God.
You have been ignored for common interest of mankind.

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« Reply #10 on: May 11, 2012, 10:59:02 AM »
Also:
Marriage is about the union of souls.
Souls are genderless.
Therefore: marriage between gays should be ok in the eyes of God.
You've been married 2 days and now you think you're an expert. ::)

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« Reply #11 on: May 11, 2012, 11:28:53 AM »
Why make this religious? If we have separation of church and state, the simple fact of the matter is that the government should not be able to tell churches who they can and cannot marry. At the same time, marriage brings with it certain legal rights that should be available to any partnership that wants to apply for them. Therefore, civil unions should be available to everyone, and should have the same legal rights as a marriage.

There. I just solved the problem.

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« Reply #12 on: May 12, 2012, 04:03:30 PM »
Why make this religious?
Because not only Church but also governments are made by God and thus also responsible to him.  When they forget this responsibility, they need to be overthrown.

Taking a cue from our rebellious Arab comrades, I suggest the guillotine for Biden's and Obama's heads.  Viva La Revolucion!
I especially enjoyed the part about governments being made by god...funny stuff.
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Re: Obama is for gay marriage
« Reply #13 on: May 12, 2012, 05:54:17 PM »
Uhh 17, are you talking to yourself?
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« Reply #14 on: May 13, 2012, 05:02:15 AM »
Uhh 17, are you talking to yourself?
Well someone has to understand him....
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Re: Obama is for gay marriage
« Reply #15 on: May 13, 2012, 05:51:41 AM »
I can see a significant enough percentage of moderates who will not be happy with it that, as close as this race looks like it will be, he could lose enough support to win.
Considering that Obama is not for the people whatsoever and has proven so, the overt and public endorsement of gross degeneracy such as sodomy decides the issue against him. 

I would not vote for either, but I would consider Romney the lesser of two evils.

...And let's hope Bill Maher gets killed on the way home.

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« Reply #16 on: May 13, 2012, 07:02:24 AM »
I see, Wardogg. Are you advocating the decapitation of our President? I have reported you to the Authorities, and also Maher's attorney.
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WardoggKC130FE

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Re: Obama is for gay marriage
« Reply #17 on: May 13, 2012, 07:36:11 AM »
I see, Wardogg. Are you advocating the decapitation of our President? I have reported you to the Authorities, and also Maher's attorney.

I must have missed the call for a beheading.  :-\

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« Reply #18 on: May 14, 2012, 03:11:56 AM »
Why make this religious?
Because not only Church but also governments are made by God and thus also responsible to him.  When they forget this responsibility, they need to be overthrown.

Taking a cue from our rebellious Arab comrades, I suggest the guillotine for Biden's and Obama's heads.  Viva La Revolucion!

Typical religious thuggery, someone disagrees with you and your solution  jumps straight to death and mutilation. Thank the revolutionaries and chartists that you religionists don't rule over us all anymore.

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Re: Obama is for gay marriage
« Reply #19 on: May 14, 2012, 03:24:15 AM »
Marriage is about the union of souls.
Souls are genderless.
Therefore: marriage between gays should be ok in the eyes of God.

Your first premise is incorrect, and your second premise is correct only in a trivial sense. Your conclusion is therefore unfounded.
I'm going to side with the white supremacists.

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« Reply #20 on: May 14, 2012, 11:40:13 AM »
Marriage today is different to the concept of marriage hundreds of years ago.

Times change, people change, society changes why shouldn't the concept of marriage?

I think it's perfectly alright, in this day and age, for two people to get married whether they're gay or not.

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WardoggKC130FE

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« Reply #21 on: May 14, 2012, 02:27:06 PM »
Marriage today is different to the concept of marriage hundreds of years ago.

Times change, people change, society changes why shouldn't the concept of marriage?

I think it's perfectly alright, in this day and age, for two people to get married whether they're gay or not.

Progressivism  thou art defined. 

So you think that you and your buddy Larry(or Carol for that matter) should be able to get married and reap all of the benefits and privileges being married brings whether you are actually in love/intimate?  Does it have to be human?  Can I marry some potato salad?  Pee Wee Herman did that once on his show.  I don't know if they are still married. 

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Re: Obama is for gay marriage
« Reply #22 on: May 14, 2012, 02:54:17 PM »
Marriage today is different to the concept of marriage hundreds of years ago.

Times change, people change, society changes why shouldn't the concept of marriage?

I think it's perfectly alright, in this day and age, for two people to get married whether they're gay or not.

Progressivism  thou art defined. 

So you think that you and your buddy Larry(or Carol for that matter) should be able to get married and reap all of the benefits and privileges being married brings whether you are actually in love/intimate?

I don't see where it is that he says this, but why not?  Many cultures practice arranged marriages.

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Does it have to be human?  Can I marry some potato salad?  Pee Wee Herman did that once on his show.  I don't know if they are still married.

lol, slippery slope.  ::)
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Re: Obama is for gay marriage
« Reply #23 on: May 14, 2012, 03:10:52 PM »
Potato salad cannot enter into a contract, so no you can't legally marry your potato salad.  You can stick your dick in the potato salad if that's what gets you off.
I'm sorry. Am I to understand that when you have a boner you like to imagine punching the shit out of Tom Bishop? That's disgusting.

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Re: Obama is for gay marriage
« Reply #24 on: May 14, 2012, 03:19:57 PM »
Many cultures practice arranged marriages.

LOL one man's "arranged marriage" is another's underage sex slave.  Some cultures kill homosexuals.  Are you advocating both of these as well?

Potato salad cannot enter into a contract, so no you can't legally marry your potato salad.  You can stick your dick in the potato salad if that's what gets you off.

Too cold.

It's only a matter of time until everyone and everything has a "right". 



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Re: Obama is for gay marriage
« Reply #25 on: May 14, 2012, 03:21:45 PM »
When your potato salad become sentient and sapient, then it will have rights.
I'm sorry. Am I to understand that when you have a boner you like to imagine punching the shit out of Tom Bishop? That's disgusting.

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« Reply #26 on: May 14, 2012, 03:22:27 PM »
ITT: Wardogg things that things which are not consenting adult humans are the same thing as consenting adult humans.
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« Reply #27 on: May 14, 2012, 03:26:24 PM »
When your potato salad become sentient and sapient, then it will have rights.

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Swiss Government's Federal Ethics Committee on Non-Human Biotechnology concludes that plants have rights, and we have to treat them appropriately. A majority of the panel concluded that "living organisms should be considered morally for their own sake because they are alive.

http://www.treehugger.com/green-food/swiss-government-issues-bill-of-rights-for-plants.html

http://planetsave.com/2008/10/18/switzerland-places-ban-on-the-humiliation-of-plants/


I think I'm going to marry a microbe. 

Re: Obama is for gay marriage
« Reply #28 on: May 14, 2012, 03:28:02 PM »
None of the plant ingredients in potato salad are living.

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« Reply #29 on: May 14, 2012, 03:30:57 PM »
So no dead things.  Good to know.