Why do the United Nations and Flat Earth Society have the same Logo?

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EmperorZhark

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Re: Why do the United Nations and Flat Earth Society have the same Logo?
« Reply #210 on: June 11, 2012, 12:10:15 PM »
 ;)
Warning: noobs should not interfere at this stage. It's too dangerous. I'm taking a risk just to post this warning. This is a clash of titans and regardless of whether or not you agree with them (I myself have grudges and/or dissenting opinions towards both) I highly recommend you respect that.

Tausami out, please don't catch me in the crossfire.
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Flatearthers

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Re: Why do the United Nations and Flat Earth Society have the same Logo?
« Reply #211 on: May 12, 2017, 09:38:24 AM »
Lol it blows my mind that people as ignorant and gullible as you actually exist
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Cartog

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Re: Why do the United Nations and Flat Earth Society have the same Logo?
« Reply #212 on: May 12, 2017, 11:47:32 AM »
It's not the very same logo.  Both use a Polar azimuthal equidistant (PAE) projection - the North Pole is the center point.  The FES uses a 19th century map with South America at the 6 o'clock position.  The UN originally (1945) used a similar orientation, with South America in the 6 o'clock position, but a couple of years later (1949) gave the map a quarter turn so that Africa was at the 6 o'clock position; this change undoubtedly had political significance.

An Azimuthal Equidistant projection is very popular as a decorative world map, even though shapes and distances are much distorted nearing the edges.  It is used, with different cities as the central point, for example, in broadcasting and shortwave to show which direction antennae should be aimed to send/receive with various target countries; also with aviation to indicate distances direct flights would require.  This projection is even more often used with maps of much smaller areas, such as states, to indicate driving distances from the center point.
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disputeone

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Re: Why do the United Nations and Flat Earth Society have the same Logo?
« Reply #213 on: May 12, 2017, 04:42:23 PM »
Lol it blows my mind that people as ignorant and gullible as you actually exist

It blows my mind when noobs necromance threads but whatevs.
Why would that be inciting terrorism?  Lorddave was merely describing a type of shop we have here in the US, a bomb-gun shop.  A shop that sells bomb-guns.

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rabinoz

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Re: Why do the United Nations and Flat Earth Society have the same Logo?
« Reply #214 on: May 12, 2017, 08:35:27 PM »
Lol it blows my mind that people as ignorant and gullible as you actually exist
Who are you claiming are "ignorant and gullible". If it's EmperorZhark, I doubt he's  listening.
The Emperor, :P bow, bow, (to his daughter-in-law elect) :P, he has not logged in since May 12, 2013, 09:16:44 PM!
If its Tausami, he has not logged in since January 13, 2017, 01:34:08 PM.

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jtlondon83

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Re: Why do the United Nations and Flat Earth Society have the same Logo?
« Reply #215 on: May 13, 2017, 04:30:48 AM »
I never said quantum physics applied to this scale.

How would one go about detecting a fractal pattern as such?

You don't know how fractal work!?

Yes quite well.  I spent some time working on research involving fractal behavior in artificial life.  You don't know how English work!? Just kidding.

Anyways, like I said explicitly, I use them for illustrative purposes.  I have found it usually speeds up the grasp of the initial idea by using popular terms that relate so much as any simile would.  I have more formal mathematical definitions varying from the simple to higher level mathematics.  I choose the one I think appropriate for the conversation at hand.

Sorry, I know from hand won experience that it is foolish to expect any answers about the Flat Earth from the Flat Earth Society Website (ironically), but how does it 'speed up the grasp of the initial idea' by using three different terms to describe your 'topology', just because they are well known words?

1. Fractal
ˈfrakt(ə)l/Submit
MATHEMATICS
noun
1.
a curve or geometrical figure, each part of which has the same statistical character as the whole. They are useful in modelling structures (such as snowflakes) in which similar patterns recur at progressively smaller scales, and in describing partly random or chaotic phenomena such as crystal growth and galaxy formation.
adjective


2. recursive
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adjective
characterized by recurrence or repetition, in particular:
MATHEMATICSLINGUISTICS
relating to or involving the repeated application of a rule, definition, or procedure to successive results.
"this restriction ensures that the grammar is recursive"
COMPUTING
relating to or involving a program or routine of which a part requires the application of the whole, so that its explicit interpretation requires in general many successive executions.
"a recursive subroutine"


3. quantum
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noun
1.
PHYSICS
a discrete quantity of energy proportional in magnitude to the frequency of the radiation it represents.
2.
a required or allowed amount, especially an amount of money legally payable in damages.
"the court must determine the quantum of compensation due"


And it's only 'AND/OR' these three different things? And that helps clarify it for people?

Mozart is well known, but they still called it the Higgs-Boson Particle, because calling it the Mozart Particle wouldn't have helped people understand it quicker.

And it would of been even worse if they'd used an actual scientific term that was already being used to mean something specific elsewhere in the scientific vernacular..

John Davis: "We're calling is the Gravity Particle"

Everyone Else: "Does it have something to do with Gravity then?"

John Davis: "No, but Gravity has great name recognition and we think this will help people understand the new particle better - like how they make movie franchises so they can reduce the marketing budget"

Everyone Else: "But it has nothing to do with Gravity?"

John Davis: "Not at all"

Everyone Else: "It's confusing enough when two people in a group have the same name, let alone when scientific terms are used more than once for different physical or technical terms or things"

John Davis: "No it's fine, everyone loved the film and this is just an extension of that idea.."

Everyone Else: "Are you alright, John? Do you need a nap or something?"

John Davis: "No I'm just going to go and work on my map a bit more!"

Everyone Else: "Yeah.. we heard about the 'map'. You're still 'working on it'?... You sure you're ok..?"
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jtlondon83

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Re: Why do the United Nations and Flat Earth Society have the same Logo?
« Reply #216 on: May 13, 2017, 04:39:04 AM »
Lol it blows my mind that people as ignorant and gullible as you actually exist
Who are you claiming are "ignorant and gullible". If it's EmperorZhark, I doubt he's  listening.
The Emperor, :P bow, bow, (to his daughter-in-law elect) :P, he has not logged in since May 12, 2013, 09:16:44 PM!
If its Tausami, he has not logged in since January 13, 2017, 01:34:08 PM.

With such prime facie evidence of the ignorance and gullibility of which some people are capable, I'm surprised at that Flatearthers

Let he who has the no sin cast the first stone (and watch it interact with gravity, incontrovertibly proving the spherical nature of celestial bodies) as they say

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boydster

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Re: Why do the United Nations and Flat Earth Society have the same Logo?
« Reply #217 on: May 13, 2017, 10:34:36 AM »
;)
Warning: noobs should not interfere at this stage. It's too dangerous. I'm taking a risk just to post this warning. This is a clash of titans and regardless of whether or not you agree with them (I myself have grudges and/or dissenting opinions towards both) I highly recommend you respect that.

Tausami out, please don't catch me in the crossfire.
;)
Lol it blows my mind that people as ignorant and gullible as you actually exist

Hahahahaha! THE ADVICE WAS IN THE LAST POST, BUT THE NOOB IGNORED IT ANYWAY

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