Please Explain.

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Please Explain.
« on: April 27, 2012, 07:15:59 PM »
I start at point A, let's say Denver. I then take an airplane and go directly North until I reach Denver again. The Earth is round.

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Re: Please Explain.
« Reply #1 on: April 27, 2012, 07:21:21 PM »
if you flew north you would eventually reach the center of the disc. North is inward, south is outward,
west is following the sun and east, the opposite.

Re: Please Explain.
« Reply #2 on: April 27, 2012, 09:22:14 PM »
if you flew north you would eventually reach the center of the disc. North is inward, south is outward,
west is following the sun and east, the opposite.
Okay, this game about directions is really getting old. The plane flies north to the NP, then south to the SP, then north to Denver--all approximately on the same meridian and anti-meridian.

Oh and it's been done. Here's one documented flight from 1977: http://www.wingnet.org/rtw/RTW006U.HTM. Yes, PTM has a killer argument.

And another: http://www.elgenlong.com/content.php?view=rtp_high
« Last Edit: April 27, 2012, 09:36:42 PM by ClockTower »
Keep it serious, Thork. You can troll, but don't be so open. We have standards

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Re: Please Explain.
« Reply #3 on: April 27, 2012, 09:46:50 PM »
if you flew north you would eventually reach the center of the disc. North is inward, south is outward,
west is following the sun and east, the opposite.
Okay, this game about directions is really getting old. The plane flies north to the NP, then south to the SP, then north to Denver--all approximately on the same meridian and anti-meridian.

Oh and it's been done. Here's one documented flight from 1977: http://www.wingnet.org/rtw/RTW006U.HTM. Yes, PTM has a killer argument.

And another: http://www.elgenlong.com/content.php?view=rtp_high

No, it didn't happen.

Re: Please Explain.
« Reply #4 on: April 27, 2012, 10:44:01 PM »
Keep it serious, Thork. You can troll, but don't be so open. We have standards

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Re: Please Explain.
« Reply #5 on: April 27, 2012, 11:31:18 PM »

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Re: Please Explain.
« Reply #6 on: April 28, 2012, 06:52:15 AM »
No, it didn't happen.

So everyone involved lied?  This conspiracy is just getting bigger and bigger!
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Re: Please Explain.
« Reply #7 on: April 28, 2012, 11:23:53 AM »
No, it didn't happen.

So everyone involved lied?  This conspiracy is just getting bigger and bigger!

People are liars. Deal with it.
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Re: Please Explain.
« Reply #8 on: April 28, 2012, 03:41:09 PM »
No, it didn't happen.

So everyone involved lied?  This conspiracy is just getting bigger and bigger!

People are liars. Deal with it.

And people wrote the Bible.  So where does that leave you?
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Re: Please Explain.
« Reply #9 on: April 28, 2012, 04:10:54 PM »
I start at point A, let's say Denver. I then take an airplane and go directly North until I reach Denver again. The Earth is round.

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Excuse me if I'm poking a hole in your globe here, but according to RET, wouldn't you need to travel South at some point to reach Denver again?
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Re: Please Explain.
« Reply #10 on: April 28, 2012, 04:27:09 PM »
Excuse me if I'm poking a hole in your globe here, but according to RET, wouldn't you need to travel South at some point to reach Denver again?

Yep, but here's the kicker: After travelling south, he can then travel north again -- without turning relative to the ground. The FE model addresses the north-south switch but fails to explain the south-north switch, instead opting to deny its existence. Don't you know this already?
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Re: Please Explain.
« Reply #11 on: April 28, 2012, 04:34:52 PM »
No, it didn't happen.

So everyone involved lied?  This conspiracy is just getting bigger and bigger!

People are liars. Deal with it.

And people wrote the Bible.  So where does that leave you?

My mistake. Some people are prone to Lying.
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Re: Please Explain.
« Reply #12 on: April 28, 2012, 04:51:27 PM »
Excuse me if I'm poking a hole in your globe here, but according to RET, wouldn't you need to travel South at some point to reach Denver again?

Yep, but here's the kicker: After travelling south, he can then travel north again -- without turning relative to the ground. The FE model addresses the north-south switch but fails to explain the south-north switch, instead opting to deny its existence. Don't you know this already?
That doesn't need explaining since we don't claim to know a single spot as a pole and have yet to encounter such an instance.
Anywho, back to his actual post, at some point he'll have to go "South"
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Re: Please Explain.
« Reply #13 on: April 28, 2012, 05:46:37 PM »
Yep, but here's the kicker: After travelling south, he can then travel north again -- without turning relative to the ground. The FE model addresses the north-south switch but fails to explain the south-north switch, instead opting to deny its existence. Don't you know this already?
That doesn't need explaining since we don't claim to know a single spot as a pole and have yet to encounter such an instance.

See? "Facts be damned! I declare, it has never happened!"


Anywho, back to his actual post, at some point he'll have to go "South"

Yes. But without turning relative to the ground.
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Re: Please Explain.
« Reply #14 on: April 28, 2012, 06:26:10 PM »
Why wasn't this moved to AR? :(
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Re: Please Explain.
« Reply #15 on: April 29, 2012, 12:11:23 PM »
No, it didn't happen.

So everyone involved lied?  This conspiracy is just getting bigger and bigger!

Just because they lied doesn't mean they are in on the conspiracy. They just thought it would be neat to tell everyone they flew around the world in a big line.

Re: Please Explain.
« Reply #16 on: April 29, 2012, 12:53:48 PM »
No, it didn't happen.

So everyone involved lied?  This conspiracy is just getting bigger and bigger!

Just because they lied doesn't mean they are in on the conspiracy. They just thought it would be neat to tell everyone they flew around the world in a big line.

You just don't get it, do you?
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Re: Please Explain.
« Reply #17 on: April 29, 2012, 02:53:59 PM »
No, it didn't happen.

So everyone involved lied?  This conspiracy is just getting bigger and bigger!

Just because they lied doesn't mean they are in on the conspiracy. They just thought it would be neat to tell everyone they flew around the world in a big line.

You just don't get it, do you?

I certainly am glad you're paying attention to my signature. You should contemplate its meaning and what exactly it tries to tell you. I had to say it so often here, I put it in every single post I make.

Re: Please Explain.
« Reply #18 on: May 05, 2012, 02:22:19 AM »
No, it didn't happen.

So everyone involved lied?  This conspiracy is just getting bigger and bigger!

Just because they lied doesn't mean they are in on the conspiracy. They just thought it would be neat to tell everyone they flew around the world in a big line.

You just don't get it, do you?

I certainly am glad you're paying attention to my signature. You should contemplate its meaning and what exactly it tries to tell you. I had to say it so often here, I put it in every single post I make.

Now do pay attention to the OP: how come that if you fly in the same direction you always come back where you started?
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Re: Please Explain.
« Reply #19 on: May 05, 2012, 03:13:58 AM »
Now do pay attention to the OP: how come that if you fly in the same direction you always come back where you started?
??? As someone who has flown a lot, I can tell you this has never ever happened to me. Nor anyone I know. (I know lots of pilots). We all always turn around and go back the way we came. Never ever have I taken off, flown and by continuing in the same direction arrived back where I started. Just because you say its so, doesn't mean it is. So "how come that if you fly in the same direction you always come back where you started?" is complete nonsense. Its like me saying that if you go to the woods in Sheffield at 3pm on the 5th May each year you will stumble across a teddy bear's picnic. Always. Have I done it? No. Do I know anyone who has done it? No. So how do I know there are teddy bears having picnics in the woods in Sheffield? Because NASA told me. You cannot make an outrageous claim and then expect FET to explain it. The burden is on you to prove it.

Re: Please Explain.
« Reply #20 on: May 05, 2012, 03:33:35 AM »
Now do pay attention to the OP: how come that if you fly in the same direction you always come back where you started?
??? As someone who has flown a lot, I can tell you this has never ever happened to me. Nor anyone I know. (I know lots of pilots). We all always turn around and go back the way we came. Never ever have I taken off, flown and by continuing in the same direction arrived back where I started. Just because you say its so, doesn't mean it is. So "how come that if you fly in the same direction you always come back where you started?" is complete nonsense. Its like me saying that if you go to the woods in Sheffield at 3pm on the 5th May each year you will stumble across a teddy bear's picnic. Always. Have I done it? No. Do I know anyone who has done it? No. So how do I know there are teddy bears having picnics in the woods in Sheffield? Because NASA told me. You cannot make an outrageous claim and then expect FET to explain it. The burden is on you to prove it.

That was a thought experiment.

If you can't be bother thinking about this one, try this: imagine 2 flights, each following closely each tropic (chose cities very close to each tropic).
Calculate each total flying time. Compare the answers with FE maps. Conclude.
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Re: Please Explain.
« Reply #21 on: May 05, 2012, 03:45:18 AM »
 
That was a thought experiment.

If you can't be bother thinking about this one, try this: imagine 2 flights, each following closely each tropic (chose cities very close to each tropic).
Calculate each total flying time. Compare the answers with FE maps. Conclude.
Imagine teddy bears eating cakes and enjoying plastic cups of fizzy pop.

The OP said nothing about thought experiments and a thought experiment is hardly proof of earth's shape. This thread is in 'Flat Earth Debate'. The place to debate earth's shape. We have other fora for flights of fancy.

Again with your second example, its just something you made up. You don't actually know the outcome. You haven't tested it. So where are you hoping to go with it? You saying because FET and RET don't have the same outcomes doesn't prove RET true. It just proves the two are different shapes. We all know that. That's the point of the site.

Re: Please Explain.
« Reply #22 on: May 05, 2012, 04:17:24 AM »
That was a thought experiment.

If you can't be bother thinking about this one, try this: imagine 2 flights, each following closely each tropic (chose cities very close to each tropic).
Calculate each total flying time. Compare the answers with FE maps. Conclude.
Imagine teddy bears eating cakes and enjoying plastic cups of fizzy pop.

The OP said nothing about thought experiments and a thought experiment is hardly proof of earth's shape. This thread is in 'Flat Earth Debate'. The place to debate earth's shape. We have other fora for flights of fancy.

Again with your second example, its just something you made up. You don't actually know the outcome. You haven't tested it. So where are you hoping to go with it? You saying because FET and RET don't have the same outcomes doesn't prove RET true. It just proves the two are different shapes. We all know that. That's the point of the site.

OK. You don't want to make the experiment.
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Re: Please Explain.
« Reply #23 on: May 05, 2012, 04:19:48 AM »
That was a thought experiment.

If you can't be bother thinking about this one, try this: imagine 2 flights, each following closely each tropic (chose cities very close to each tropic).
Calculate each total flying time. Compare the answers with FE maps. Conclude.
Imagine teddy bears eating cakes and enjoying plastic cups of fizzy pop.

The OP said nothing about thought experiments and a thought experiment is hardly proof of earth's shape. This thread is in 'Flat Earth Debate'. The place to debate earth's shape. We have other fora for flights of fancy.

Again with your second example, its just something you made up. You don't actually know the outcome. You haven't tested it. So where are you hoping to go with it? You saying because FET and RET don't have the same outcomes doesn't prove RET true. It just proves the two are different shapes. We all know that. That's the point of the site.

OK. You don't want to make the experiment.
I do not have an aircraft capable of flying the enormous distances required. Neither do you. We would be without results and unable to come to a conclusion.

Re: Please Explain.
« Reply #24 on: May 05, 2012, 08:08:59 AM »
That was a thought experiment.

If you can't be bother thinking about this one, try this: imagine 2 flights, each following closely each tropic (chose cities very close to each tropic).
Calculate each total flying time. Compare the answers with FE maps. Conclude.
Imagine teddy bears eating cakes and enjoying plastic cups of fizzy pop.

The OP said nothing about thought experiments and a thought experiment is hardly proof of earth's shape. This thread is in 'Flat Earth Debate'. The place to debate earth's shape. We have other fora for flights of fancy.

Again with your second example, its just something you made up. You don't actually know the outcome. You haven't tested it. So where are you hoping to go with it? You saying because FET and RET don't have the same outcomes doesn't prove RET true. It just proves the two are different shapes. We all know that. That's the point of the site.

OK. You don't want to make the experiment.
I do not have an aircraft capable of flying the enormous distances required. Neither do you. We would be without results and unable to come to a conclusion.

Take the times given by airlines companies (the ones not in the conspiracy)!!!
“The Earth looks flat, therefore it is” FEers wisdom.

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Thork

Re: Please Explain.
« Reply #25 on: May 05, 2012, 08:26:50 AM »
That was a thought experiment.

If you can't be bother thinking about this one, try this: imagine 2 flights, each following closely each tropic (chose cities very close to each tropic).
Calculate each total flying time. Compare the answers with FE maps. Conclude.
Imagine teddy bears eating cakes and enjoying plastic cups of fizzy pop.

The OP said nothing about thought experiments and a thought experiment is hardly proof of earth's shape. This thread is in 'Flat Earth Debate'. The place to debate earth's shape. We have other fora for flights of fancy.

Again with your second example, its just something you made up. You don't actually know the outcome. You haven't tested it. So where are you hoping to go with it? You saying because FET and RET don't have the same outcomes doesn't prove RET true. It just proves the two are different shapes. We all know that. That's the point of the site.

OK. You don't want to make the experiment.
I do not have an aircraft capable of flying the enormous distances required. Neither do you. We would be without results and unable to come to a conclusion.

Take the times given by airlines companies (the ones not in the conspiracy)!!!
As aircraft don't fly from a to b, but instead follow highways in the sky, join holds, track beacons, approach runways from different sides depending on the wind etc, how exactly is checking the times going to help?

Re: Please Explain.
« Reply #26 on: May 05, 2012, 09:15:56 AM »
That was a thought experiment.

If you can't be bother thinking about this one, try this: imagine 2 flights, each following closely each tropic (chose cities very close to each tropic).
Calculate each total flying time. Compare the answers with FE maps. Conclude.
Imagine teddy bears eating cakes and enjoying plastic cups of fizzy pop.

The OP said nothing about thought experiments and a thought experiment is hardly proof of earth's shape. This thread is in 'Flat Earth Debate'. The place to debate earth's shape. We have other fora for flights of fancy.

Again with your second example, its just something you made up. You don't actually know the outcome. You haven't tested it. So where are you hoping to go with it? You saying because FET and RET don't have the same outcomes doesn't prove RET true. It just proves the two are different shapes. We all know that. That's the point of the site.

OK. You don't want to make the experiment.
I do not have an aircraft capable of flying the enormous distances required. Neither do you. We would be without results and unable to come to a conclusion.

Take the times given by airlines companies (the ones not in the conspiracy)!!!
As aircraft don't fly from a to b, but instead follow highways in the sky, join holds, track beacons, approach runways from different sides depending on the wind etc, how exactly is checking the times going to help?

It could give you an idea. And you could check the distances.
“The Earth looks flat, therefore it is” FEers wisdom.

Re: Please Explain.
« Reply #27 on: May 12, 2012, 01:10:23 AM »
Really. George Castanza. You are trying to tell people off with an image of him... nice.

And I will explain it to you ...

In your explaination ... you have to remember that once you hit the poles . there is a polar shift change. so technically you WOULD fly south once you reached the pole. Then North again after Antarctica.

In the flat earth theory.. one would fly north... and again not straight up into the atmosphere, but North on the compass. Since we are bound by electromagnetism, eventually the plane would curve south at the pole and instead of loopty looeying around ... the plane would naturally curve south, then fly to the antarctic where again due to electromagneticism, the plane would curve north and end up at Denver again.

The diagram is EXACTLY similar to what NASA uses when tracking shuttles, sattelites ect.

So in your theory, Theoretically you would fly North the entire way, yet acually you do fly south....

In my theory, i would fly north, south and then north again. just like your theory, but not flipping over the tip of the world ... i think the north pole is a no-fly zone anyway
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Re: Please Explain.
« Reply #28 on: May 12, 2012, 10:20:18 PM »
But you wouldn't fly off of the edge. You would fly over Antarctica and end up on the other site of the city.

Re: Please Explain.
« Reply #29 on: May 15, 2012, 08:32:22 PM »
No, it didn't happen.

So everyone involved lied?  This conspiracy is just getting bigger and bigger!

Just because they lied doesn't mean they are in on the conspiracy. They just thought it would be neat to tell everyone they flew around the world in a big line.

Ironic, isn't it, that everyone that doesn't agree with your theory is lying, and everyone that does isn't? Yet almost all of the most highly educated people in the world are on the side you chuck into the 'lying' category?