I was at an engineering conference last week reviewing several different proposals, one including using new optics technology that utilizes some higher-level math to accurately calculate the radius of the earth.....and it reminded me of this site. I saw all of the evidence for myself, provided by four optical engineers and two mechanical engineers. The sad thing is their months of work would be completely discounted here. Just like these perfectly verifiable pieces of evidence are being discounted. And when given this evidence, FES proponents beat around the bush with it like they went to school for it. I personally have explained refraction effects using basic calculus and nobody ever makes another comment, like it was just dismissed. Really? Its unbelievable the amount of people on this site that will intentionally ignore good evidence for their own reasons, be it ignorance, not wanting to be proved wrong, wanting to feel part of a community, etc. I am just amazed.
"A wise man, when confronted with data that his theory is wrong, does not discount the data.....he changes his theory." -B.T.
Why do FES believers refuse to consider that their theory might be wrong? It isn't good science. In fact, it is terrible science.
Scientists bash FE theory. Call that good science? Even with all the evidence brought forth by some of the very smart people behind the flat earth movement. Math is math is math is math. My brother is studying to become a Nuclear Physicist. I'm not even close to as smart as he is, and I hardly can wrap my head around the basic stuff. Probably what I get from being a drop out. People are here for answers and things they can wrap there head around. Most can't do that with math, no matter how clearly you present it. This is a forum with mostly normal people who haven't done much math after high school. There are however exceptions of course!
You post math, people might read, but it will go over there head. No matter who they are RE or FE believer.
I'm speaking generally of course, and not insulting your intellegince, if anything I'm insulting my intellegince and the intellegence of others who flock to this site. Basically, don't feel bad you make perfectly good topics that are coherently explained and evidence that is presented presently. You just can't end up expecting much from this site in terms of actual science.
FE's don't do many experiments, they cost to much
pretty sure that is someone's signature on here lol
1) Scientists who "bash" FE theory are justified in doing so, not only because it's so easily disproven by those who do know what they're talking about, but also because it doesn't even meet the criteria for a scientific theory. Theory, yes. Scientific theory, no.
2) By your own admission, if there are people whose intelligence you aren't even close to, how are you certain that the FE evidence you've seen is presented by "very smart people?" How are you sure it isn't terrible evidence presented by dumb people?
Honestly. I'm here for the lolz, in my free time I read, and just enjoy the community. It reminds me of the comment section of youtube. Or as stated in another thread 4chan. Its large, varried, and fun to read and learn a little from others. On both sides.
I'm here for four reasons: psychological theorization of "normal" people with near-delusional beliefs and the implications on psychological diagnosis; the "lulz;" critical thinking practice; reaffirmation of my intelligence.
Actually, there's a 5th reason: spreading of beliefs like this upon gullible people is harmful to society.
I recall you saying in another post that you were "confused," and it pains me when people without a good scientific background claim they find flat earth claims compelling. It's scarier if they actually have a good scientific background.
Make no mistake about it, flat earth believers are seriously misguided. It's one thing if they are generally curious about using their own devices to determine the shape of the earth. But I'll go out on a limb here and assume that the overwhelming majority of flat earth believers don't fit this description. Instead, they are mostly uneducated and are poor independent thinkers, and know it whether consciously or unconsciously with a large dose of denial, and it makes them feel good to be part of this fringe minority of believers.
Flat earth believers talk about motives a lot in their conspiracy talk. As it turns out, flat earthers have a huge motive to believe in a flat earth. It's enormously motivating to feel as though you're part of some small minority privy to information that billions of others do not know, including those persons in the most prestigious, powerful, or wealthy professions. For one to believe in a flat earth and believe they are correct is to believe that they are smarter, better, and perhaps more virtuous than all of those countless others who surpassed them long ago. I'd bet good money that virtually all true flat earth believers fit this general description in some form or another.