Velocity of the flat Earth

Hello, according to this page on how gravity works according to the FE model :

http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=Gravity

In the Flat Earth model, 'gravity', rather than being a force, is the upward acceleration of the Earth. The Earth always accelerates upward at 1g, which is equivalent to the gravitational acceleration in the Round Earth model.

I know that not all flat earthers agree on this but I just wanted to investigate this idea. Anyway I thought : since the Earth is accelerating at a constant 1g, then calculating its speed should be easy. We only need to know the age of the Earth. I know that not all flat earthers agree on this either. Since FE is often linked with religion and creationism, I've seen 6000 years (according to the Bible) often accepted in FE debates.

Now, maybe calculating a speed from acceleration and time isn't everyone's cup of tea. In this case it's very simple because the acceleration is constant. Let's assume the Earth was created 6000 years ago, that's really the minimum we can go to. Let's also assume it starts with a speed of 0 when it's created, that's also the minimum we can go to. Then it starts accelerating constantly at the rate of 1g. That means each second since its creation it gains an additional 9.8 meters / second. All you have to do is multiply the number of seconds by 9.8 to find its speed in meters per second.

So let's calculate 6000 years in seconds :

60 * 60 * 24 * 365 * 6000 = 189 216 000 000 seconds

Again this is a lower estimate, for the sake of simplicity I didn't account for leap years or anything fancy. Let's multiply that by 9.8 to find the speed in meters per second :

189 216 000 000 * 9.8 = 1 854 316 800 000 meters / second

Or roughly 190 million kilometers per second.

So that gives us 6 675 billion kilometers per hour, or 4 150 billion miles per hour.

Here's my conclusion. I often see flat earthers use this argument : "NASA tells us that the Earth rotates at a speed of over 1000 miles/hour at the equator, that it orbits the Sun at 67 000 miles/hour, and that the Sun shoots through the galaxy at 500 000 miles/hour, for a wooping total of nearly 570 000 miles/hour".

They often use these numbers with emphasis to show that it cannot be, simply because we don't feel any of it. Well the truth is that according to the FE model, the Earth goes way way way faster. Just thought flat earthers needed to know this.

Hello, according to this page on how gravity works according to the FE model :

http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=Gravity

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In the Flat Earth model, 'gravity', rather than being a force, is the upward acceleration of the Earth. The Earth always accelerates upward at 1g, which is equivalent to the gravitational acceleration in the Round Earth model.

I know that not all flat earthers agree on this but I just wanted to investigate this idea. Anyway I thought : since the Earth is accelerating at a constant 1g, then calculating its speed should be easy. We only need to know the age of the Earth. I know that not all flat earthers agree on this either. Since FE is often linked with religion and creationism, I've seen 6000 years (according to the Bible) often accepted in FE debates.

Now, maybe calculating a speed from acceleration and time isn't everyone's cup of tea. In this case it's very simple because the acceleration is constant. Let's assume the Earth was created 6000 years ago, that's really the minimum we can go to. Let's also assume it starts with a speed of 0 when it's created, that's also the minimum we can go to. Then it starts accelerating constantly at the rate of 1g. That means each second since its creation it gains an additional 9.8 meters / second. All you have to do is multiply the number of seconds by 9.8 to find its speed in meters per second.

So let's calculate 6000 years in seconds :

60 * 60 * 24 * 365 * 6000 = 189 216 000 000 seconds

Again this is a lower estimate, for the sake of simplicity I didn't account for leap years or anything fancy. Let's multiply that by 9.8 to find the speed in meters per second :

189 216 000 000 * 9.8 = 1 854 316 800 000 meters / second

Or roughly 190 million kilometers per second.

So that gives us 6 675 billion kilometers per hour, or 4 150 billion miles per hour.

Here's my conclusion. I often see flat earthers use this argument : "NASA tells us that the Earth rotates at a speed of over 1000 miles/hour at the equator, that it orbits the Sun at 67 000 miles/hour, and that the Sun shoots through the galaxy at 500 000 miles/hour, for a wooping total of nearly 570 000 miles/hour".

They often use these numbers with emphasis to show that it cannot be, simply because we don't feel any of it. Well the truth is that according to the FE model, the Earth goes way way way faster. Just thought flat earthers needed to know this.

Great post OP. I am not anyone to answer any questions involving this subject. However, I would like to pose another question to anyone who is a avid FE and could explain something else to me involving Velocity of the Flat Earth.

Why does earth, at certain points on its surface also have variations in its constant velocity?
In different locations on the earth the velocity of 9.81m per second squared is just not 9.81m per second squared.
Gravitational acceleration at Palo Alto, CA :
9.78933730054 m/s^2


Gravitational acceleration at Beijing, China :
9.78920541783 m/s^2


Could these very slight variations be explained fully by a flat earth, as they are explained by the slight non roundness of a Heliocentric model?

Hopefully I haven't de-railed the thread to much with this question OP

You just claimed in another thread you are a school drop out and maths is..........

To op: At such speeds you have to account for relativistic effects. We would be moving at roughly 0.999999987c. Your point still stands though, although one could argue that you feel this velocity, because you are being pushed down.

To op: At such speeds you have to account for relativistic effects. We would be moving at roughly 0.999999987c. Your point still stands though, although one could argue that you feel this velocity, because you are being pushed down.

Hmm, Bible+Universal acceleration=Good maths.
Which then in turn debunks flat earth.
Looking forward to your next post.

Quote from: Kami on May 03, 2016, 12:50:16 AM

To op: At such speeds you have to account for relativistic effects. We would be moving at roughly 0.999999987c. Your point still stands though, although one could argue that you feel this velocity, because you are being pushed down.

Hmm, Bible+Universal acceleration=Good maths.
Which then in turn debunks flat earth.
Looking forward to your next post.

I did never claim to debunk flat earth, just brought in relativity to op's maths.
Still, if you believe in UA and think that the fact that you do not feel the earth moving speaks against a globe earth, his point stands. If we suppose that the earth is older than 1000 years (leaving the bible out of this), we would still be moving at a much higher speed than in the round-earth model.

You just claimed in another thread you are a school drop out and maths is..........

I still presented a question.

If you'd like to talk my personal life man we can always go to a discussion board. I'm a human, I'm curious like everyone else. My 20 years on this earth I've learned a lot, had a lot of jobs since 16, but alas, that is all besides the point and I do believe that would belong in a discussion board, thanks for keeping up with me though man <3 I don't think that discredits my question at all, my position and educational background that is.

First off, people can not live on just ONE side of a Flat Earth (FE) as I point out here:
(https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=66457.0)

Therefore, the Earth is not accelerating (Universal Acceleration). There has to be another mechanism to keep people on Earth. On a FE, it can't be gravity or everything would be pulled toward the middle (N.Pole/S.Pole) and that effect could be measured.

Discussing UA is therefore moot. IF people could live on one side of a FE and Universal Acceleration was the cause of "gravity", then relativistic considerations would be entertained. You first have to fix the sky/heavens on that kind of Earth to discuss how other things can happen on it. You can't discuss "how many angels (UA) can dance on a head of a pin (FE)" when there is no pin.

Quote from: tappet on May 02, 2016, 10:33:25 PM

You just claimed in another thread you are a school drop out and maths is..........

I still presented a question.

If you'd like to talk my personal life man we can always go to a discussion board. I'm a human, I'm curious like everyone else. My 20 years on this earth I've learned a lot, had a lot of jobs since 16, but alas, that is all besides the point and I do believe that would belong in a discussion board, thanks for keeping up with me though man <3 I don't think that discredits my question at all, my position and educational background that is.

Are you a Mormon?