Conspiracy

What is the reason for the so called "Conspiracy" by the government?

What is the reason for the so called "Conspiracy" by the government?

Money.

Quote from: RoundHard on March 30, 2012, 06:54:23 AM

What is the reason for the so called "Conspiracy" by the government?

Money.

Except that NASA and the USSR's space program didn't need money, as space flight was part of ICBM research and development.

Quote from: RoundHard on March 30, 2012, 06:54:23 AM

What is the reason for the so called "Conspiracy" by the government?

Money.

Do you happen to know their agenda for using this supposed sum of money that has been amassed? I always wonder what they might be saving up for...

True Zetetics do not believe in a massive conspiracy.
Anything can be explained, fact or fiction, because of a conspiracy,
claiming "conspiracy" is a cop out.

True Zetetics do not believe in a massive conspiracy.
Anything can be explained, fact or fiction, because of a conspiracy,
claiming "conspiracy" is a cop out.

I believe members of The Conspiracy seek financial gain and power/control. That is probably the most popular view among Believers.

Cry me a river.

Except that NASA and the USSR's space program didn't need money, as space flight was part of ICBM research and development.

If they didn't need money, why did the respective governments give them so much of it?

Quote from: Graff on March 30, 2012, 07:31:22 AM

Except that NASA and the USSR's space program didn't need money, as space flight was part of ICBM research and development.

If they didn't need money, why did the respective governments give them so much of it?

What I mean is they didn't need to lie to get it.

The fact that there would have been fringe benefits and technological off-shoots as a result of such a program does not mean they would not have had to lie to get the money. The simple fact is that nobody's going to pay for someone to go to the Moon if they know it can't be done.

Except that the conspiracy would need to lie about many of those "fringe benefits" too.  There are only so many layers of deception that can be cost effectively managed.

FE believer  have not presented any real evidence that supports this conspiracy idea.

FE believer  have not presented any real evidence that supports this conspiracy idea.

Damning evidence against NASA has been archived here:

http://theflatearthsociety.org/wiki/index.php?title=The_Conspiracy

Quote from: rayman on March 30, 2012, 08:57:05 AM

FE believer  have not presented any real evidence that supports this conspiracy idea.

Damning evidence against NASA has been archived here:

http://theflatearthsociety.org/wiki/index.php?title=The_Conspiracy

That's very nice, Tom.  Except for the part where many of your sources acknowledge that the earth is round and NASA really is going into space.  Also, it's poor form to cite yourself as a reference unless you have established your credibility.

Quote from: Tom Bishop on March 30, 2012, 09:03:11 AM

Quote from: rayman on March 30, 2012, 08:57:05 AM

FE believer  have not presented any real evidence that supports this conspiracy idea.

Damning evidence against NASA has been archived here:

http://theflatearthsociety.org/wiki/index.php?title=The_Conspiracy

That's very nice, Tom.  Except for the part where many of your sources acknowledge that the earth is round and NASA really is going into space.  Also, it's poor form to cite yourself as a reference unless you have established your credibility.

It doesn't matter if the authors of those sources believe that the earth is round, or that only some missions are being faked. Those are supplementary beliefs unrelated to the evidence they present. The fact is that the evidence presented strongly suggests that space missions are being hoaxed.

What is the reason for the so called "Conspiracy" by the government?

World domination.

What is the reason for the so called "Conspiracy" by the government?

In order to counter the many, many obvious disproofs of FET.
The Conspiracy is required in order to counter:
All pictures from space.
All satellite communications and services.
All southern hemisphere air travel.
KFC (though I'm not sure why)
The results of all experiments showing any astronomical data regarding distance, size or mass.
and more. Don't forget, apparently it only has about 10 people in it covering all these things up.

And control all the scientists involved in one way or another in RET.

The very fact you have a functioning cellphone means that satellites are real, therefore space-travel is real.

This is really a no brainer.

The very fact you have a functioning cellphone means that satellites are real, therefore space-travel is real.

This is really a no brainer.

Satellites are not required to make cell phones work.

The very fact you have a functioning cellphone means that satellites are real, therefore space-travel is real.

This is really a no brainer.

Yeah, erm, if the world is flat ... you don't need satellites. You have line of sight.

But satellites do exist. Fact.

But satellites do exist. Fact.

Lurk moar.

And space flight.
And Moon landing.

It doesn't matter if the authors of those sources believe that the earth is round, or that only some missions are being faked. Those are supplementary beliefs unrelated to the evidence they present. The fact is that the evidence presented strongly suggests that space missions are being hoaxed.

Tom, your contention is that NASA has never gone into space.  Not one of your sources support that contention.

Quote from: rayman on March 30, 2012, 12:19:29 PM

The very fact you have a functioning cellphone means that satellites are real, therefore space-travel is real.

This is really a no brainer.

Yeah, erm, if the world is flat ... you don't need satellites. You have line of sight.

Do we have line of sight? So Why can't I see the Everest mountain? Since it is the highest point in the world?  Where is the line of sight ?

Quote from: Tom Bishop on March 30, 2012, 09:58:21 AM

It doesn't matter if the authors of those sources believe that the earth is round, or that only some missions are being faked. Those are supplementary beliefs unrelated to the evidence they present. The fact is that the evidence presented strongly suggests that space missions are being hoaxed.

Tom, your contention is that NASA has never gone into space.  Not one of your sources support that contention.

Why do the authors have to believe that the earth is flat, or that space travel is impossible, or that all space missions are fake, to show evidence that a particular mission is faked? Those beliefs have no bearing on the matter at hand.

The fact is that NASA's evidence is inconsistent, flawed, and questionable to the extreme.

A lot of those links are dead. Is anybody checking into that?

Quote from: markjo on March 30, 2012, 01:06:56 PM

Quote from: Tom Bishop on March 30, 2012, 09:58:21 AM

It doesn't matter if the authors of those sources believe that the earth is round, or that only some missions are being faked. Those are supplementary beliefs unrelated to the evidence they present. The fact is that the evidence presented strongly suggests that space missions are being hoaxed.

Tom, your contention is that NASA has never gone into space.  Not one of your sources support that contention.

Why do the authors have to believe that the earth is flat, or that space travel is impossible, or that all space missions are fake, to show evidence that a particular mission is faked? Those beliefs have no bearing on the matter at hand.

The fact is that NASA's evidence is inconsistent, flawed, and questionable to the extreme.

I didn't say that the authors had to believe that the earth is flat or that space flight is impossible.  I'm saying that none of your sources say that NASA is faking every single space mission like you contend.

I didn't say that the authors had to believe that the earth is flat or that space flight is impossible.  I'm saying that none of your sources say that NASA is faking every single space mission like you contend.

Why do they have to?

Quote from: markjo on March 30, 2012, 03:41:01 PM

I didn't say that the authors had to believe that the earth is flat or that space flight is impossible.  I'm saying that none of your sources say that NASA is faking every single space mission like you contend.

Why do they have to?

Because you think they are.
In order for FET to work; it must be fully impossible for NASA to go to space.