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Re: A Friendly Chat
« Reply #2790 on: October 20, 2013, 09:38:20 AM »
Speaking of managing, I got promoted to being manager. Which is a lot of extra work, but I'm learning zillions and earning millions (well, not exactly), so it's good.

I remember my first few weeks as a team leader, which is more or less a junior management position and the one I'm in now. At first I wasn't entirely sure if it was worth the extra money, but I've come to appreciate the value in helping others achieve their potential and learning to communicate more effectively with them.

But I haven't been ignoring FES totally... see, the little spare time I can put toward FE stuff has been dedicated to a talk I'm giving on the 29th of October in Cheltenham. It's an hour-long talk followed by Q&A, so preparing it has been (and is...) fairly involved. If anyone's in the area and feels like giving me moral support, feel free to attend!

It's a little out of the way for me (well over 10000 km), but that sounds cool. Hope it all goes well.

Speaking of speaking, I'm giving a talk (possibly two; I haven't decided whether to submit a second proposal yet) at linux.conf.au 2014 in January. LCA is among the biggest Linux conferences in the world, and some of the biggest names in the open source community attend each year, so it'll be quite an experience talking about this technology in front of the people who write the software.
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Re: A Friendly Chat
« Reply #2791 on: October 20, 2013, 10:08:31 AM »
I give loads of presentations at conferences etc... the worst bit are the questions at the end.

Apart from that it's a bit of a jolly.

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« Reply #2792 on: October 20, 2013, 10:52:46 AM »
I remember my first few weeks as a team leader, which is more or less a junior management position and the one I'm in now. At first I wasn't entirely sure if it was worth the extra money, but I've come to appreciate the value in helping others achieve their potential and learning to communicate more effectively with them.


My situation is a little unusual, in that because our team is very small (three people including myself), my job is less focussed on managing personnel, and more focussed on defining and implementing policy (yes, that business speak is vague, but deliberately so). But what's nice is that because it's a small team, I get to do a lot of everything - adwords campaigns, SEO, analytics reports, social media, newsletters, overseeing packaging design etc. It's cool, because although I enjoy it, I don't think I'll be there forever, and even if I quit tomorrow I'd leave with bucket-loads of transferable skills and a way better CV than I had when I started in March. Plus it's a really relaxed working environment - I pretty much set my own hours, and the place is very non-corporate.


But I think we're talking about the same thing at a broader level - it's funny getting to a point where you consider your job as part of a career, and start taking pride in your work. I've always been a good worker, but previously I'd work hard because I felt I had to, rather than because it was something I enjoyed for its own sake. It's amazing how agency and autonomy affect your attitude to work.


I give loads of presentations at conferences etc... the worst bit are the questions at the end.

Apart from that it's a bit of a jolly.


I'm apparently quite good at presentations and that kind of thing - I always feel very nervous, but apparently it doesn't come across. But I've never given a talk of this length, and never on content that is so obviously controversial. I'm sure I won't get eaten alive... but not entirely sure. And yeah, the Q&A is what I'm most nervous about.


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Re: A Friendly Chat
« Reply #2793 on: October 20, 2013, 11:38:24 AM »
My situation is a little unusual, in that because our team is very small (three people including myself), my job is less focussed on managing personal, and more focussed on defining and implementing policy (yes, that business speak is vague, but deliberately so). But what's nice is that because it's a small team, I get to do a lot of everything - adwords campaigns, SEO, analytics reports, social media, newsletters, overseeing packaging design etc. It's cool, because although I enjoy it, I don't think I'll be there forever, and even if I quit tomorrow I'd leave with bucket-loads of transferable skills and a way better CV than I had when I started in March. Plus it's a really relaxed working environment - I pretty much set my own hours, and the place is very non-corporate.

We're in a similar position, then. I manage a team of five, including myself, although we're all Linux sysadmins so the stuff we do is much more specialised than what it sounds like you're doing.

But I think we're talking about the same thing at a broader level - it's funny getting to a point where you consider your job as part of a career, and start taking pride in your work. I've always been a good worker, but previously I'd work hard because I felt I had to, rather than because it was something I enjoyed for its own sake. It's amazing how agency and autonomy affect your attitude to work.

That's always been the case where I work, as it's a very relaxed and autonomous environment in general. The reason I applied for a job in the beginning is because I was in a shitty situation and was going to end up penniless if I didn't get a job somewhere, and I just happened to get lucky and find a job I could excel at with an employer that doesn't suck. I very quickly grew to take pride in what I was doing and consider it a career I wanted to pursue.

The management shindig is refreshing in a way, though. After three years honing my skills as a Linux admin, a change of pace is very welcome. As much as I love working with Linux systems, I was getting to do the same old thing over and over. Now I get to manage other people doing what I used to do, and focus on the more challenging tasks myself.
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Re: A Friendly Chat
« Reply #2794 on: October 20, 2013, 03:32:44 PM »
Haha, penis.
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Re: A Friendly Chat
« Reply #2795 on: October 20, 2013, 03:48:28 PM »

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« Reply #2796 on: October 20, 2013, 03:53:48 PM »
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« Reply #2797 on: October 20, 2013, 09:27:20 PM »
My legs in my N7 leggings were on the front page of reddit today before they took it off the gaming page. Apparently if it's something that reminds you of a game or is just merchandise then it's against the rules. But that rule is broken all the time so I'm sad.

/r/masseffect would upvote that like mindless husks, and it wouldn't get removed.

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« Reply #2798 on: October 21, 2013, 11:42:05 AM »
mindless husks

You have just described all of reddit.

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Re: A Friendly Chat
« Reply #2799 on: October 21, 2013, 05:01:43 PM »
The picture had its moment. I don't think we'll be resurrecting it.

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Re: A Friendly Chat
« Reply #2800 on: October 21, 2013, 09:44:09 PM »
The picture had its moment. I don't think we'll be resurrecting it.
We? You have image consultants?

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« Reply #2801 on: October 22, 2013, 03:03:57 AM »
The picture had its moment. I don't think we'll be resurrecting it.

It will be doing enough resurrecting on its own, if you know what I mean.
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Re: A Friendly Chat
« Reply #2802 on: October 22, 2013, 04:13:53 AM »
The picture had its moment. I don't think we'll be resurrecting it.
We? You have image consultants?
A&A is the one who made the post on reddit. Neither one of us cares anymore.

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Re: A Friendly Chat
« Reply #2803 on: October 22, 2013, 11:58:08 AM »
I went go karting as part of a work charity thing today. I'd never done it before. It was fun.

I got t-boned as I slid round a corner and my ribs really hurt though. Hoping they are bruised and not cracked.

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Re: A Friendly Chat
« Reply #2804 on: October 22, 2013, 12:43:27 PM »
I went go karting as part of a work charity thing today. I'd never done it before. It was fun.

I got t-boned as I slid round a corner and my ribs really hurt though. Hoping they are bruised and not cracked.

Careful, at your age the body will start to heal much more slowly than when you were young; 20 or so years ago...

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« Reply #2805 on: October 22, 2013, 01:41:39 PM »
I went go karting as part of a work charity thing today. I'd never done it before. It was fun.

I got t-boned as I slid round a corner and my ribs really hurt though. Hoping they are bruised and not cracked.

Careful, at your age the body will start to heal much more slowly than when you were young; 20 or so years ago...

He just needs some hormones for quick muscle recovery.

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Re: A Friendly Chat
« Reply #2806 on: October 22, 2013, 01:52:37 PM »
I went go karting as part of a work charity thing today. I'd never done it before. It was fun.

I got t-boned as I slid round a corner and my ribs really hurt though. Hoping they are bruised and not cracked.

Careful, at your age the body will start to heal much more slowly than when you were young; 20 or so years ago...

He just needs some hormones for quick muscle recovery.
Probably. I put half an inch on my guns since I started going to the gym a few weeks ago though (initial new to the gym burst you always get). But I'm really tired right now. I cycle 20 miles a day (to work and back), gym 3 days and swim 3 days. Then add in anything else like go karting or paintball and it half kills me. I'm too frickin' old to train like this. I don't look almost 36 but I'm fighting a losing battle with this body.
Steroids suck. Most people put on a ton of water, and steroids age guys very badly (I don't need that at my age). Also, I don't like the steroids shape. Its very out of proportion. To round and bulgy. Male pattern baldness, erectile dysfunction, large drugs bill, no regulation ... no I'm fine, really.
I think I need to start eating a bit better. No more fizzy drinks and lay off the sausage rolls for breakfast. My six pack isn't what it was 10 years ago. :(
I hold weight better these days, but I can lose definition. My metabolism is starting to slide.

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Re: A Friendly Chat
« Reply #2807 on: October 22, 2013, 01:54:25 PM »
Eat more good food.

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Re: A Friendly Chat
« Reply #2808 on: October 22, 2013, 02:01:14 PM »
So I've just gone through the UK Top 40.

I like Miley Cyrus Wrecking Ball the best. The state of music right now is in crisis.



I was looking for a song I heard in the gym last night. Its kind of a club anthem ... but no idea. Its not in the regular charts.

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Re: A Friendly Chat
« Reply #2809 on: October 22, 2013, 02:47:31 PM »
So I've just gone through the UK Top 40.

I like Miley Cyrus Wrecking Ball the best. The state of music right now is in crisis.

>implying Top 40 charts have ever been a catalogue of the best modern music has to offer
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« Reply #2810 on: October 22, 2013, 02:48:30 PM »
So I've just gone through the UK Top 40.

I like Miley Cyrus Wrecking Ball the best. The state of music right now is in crisis.

>implying Top 40 charts have ever been a catalogue of the best modern music has to offer

Seriously, Thork, don't be an ignorant ninny! I know I'm asking a lot, but please try.

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Re: A Friendly Chat
« Reply #2811 on: October 22, 2013, 02:53:56 PM »
I couldn't find the song I wanted. I got confused and angry. There was too much Simon Cowell and I gave up.

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« Reply #2812 on: October 22, 2013, 02:58:16 PM »
Thork, if we went by what's in the Top 40, we would have to consider the state of music to have always been in crisis.  In fact I'm fairly convinced that the reason we have a Top 40 at all is to help people with taste know what to avoid.
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Re: A Friendly Chat
« Reply #2815 on: October 22, 2013, 06:41:42 PM »
>implying those were the only songs in the top 40
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« Reply #2816 on: October 23, 2013, 07:17:34 AM »
So I've just gone through the UK Top 40.

I like Miley Cyrus Wrecking Ball the best. The state of music right now is in crisis.



I was looking for a song I heard in the gym last night. Its kind of a club anthem ... but no idea. Its not in the regular charts.

I was listening to ultra-conservative Internet radio and they said that video was a clear metaphor for how Western Culture is wrecking the the traditional family... FYI.

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« Reply #2817 on: October 23, 2013, 03:33:41 PM »
>implying those were the only songs in the top 40


Actually, it was a somehwhat tongue-in-cheek reference to the famous periods where both (generally respected) bands dominated the charts. I mean, those aren't exactly my favourite Beatles' songs...


I would be interested to see an actual run-down of the Billboard top 40 from 1964 though - my guess is that there would be a good few other classics on there. 1977... not so much.
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« Reply #2818 on: October 23, 2013, 03:52:04 PM »
I would be interested to see an actual run-down of the Billboard top 40 from 1964 though - my guess is that there would be a good few other classics on there. 1978... not so much.

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« Reply #2819 on: October 23, 2013, 04:03:16 PM »
Hey bro, I am all about the Night Fever *high-fives his beer*
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