Enough Beating around the bush

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Re: Enough Beating around the bush
« Reply #30 on: March 03, 2012, 10:39:27 PM »
When at sea it is possible to see high mountains or elevated lights in the distance before lower lying ground and the masts of boats before the hull. It is also possible to see further by climbing higher in the ship, or, when on land, on high cliffs.
The sun is lower in the sky as you travel north, but stars such as Polaris, the north star, are higher in the sky. Other bright stars such as Canopus, visible in Egypt, disappear from the sky.
The earth throws a circular shadow on the moon during a lunar eclipse.
The times reported for lunar eclipses (which are seen simultaneously) are many hours later in the east (e.g. India) than in the west (e.g. Europe). Local times are confirmed later by travel using chronometers and telegraphic communication.
When you travel far south, to Ethiopia or India, the sun throws a shadow south at certain times of the year. Even further (e.g. Argentina) and the shadow is always in the south.
It is possible to circumnavigate the world; that is, to travel around the world and return to where you started.
Travelers who circumnavigate the earth observe the gain or loss of a day relative to those who did not. See also International Date Line.
An artificial satellite can circle the earth continuously and even be geostationary.
The earth appears as a disc on photographs taken from space, regardless of the vantage point.
Why that's preposterous my good man!

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Re: Enough Beating around the bush
« Reply #31 on: March 03, 2012, 10:41:04 PM »

So essentially all of the people that misinterpreted Bedford's experiments?
A better question; How do we know those were faked?
Or vice versa; How do we know those weren't faked?
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Re: Enough Beating around the bush
« Reply #32 on: March 03, 2012, 10:49:35 PM »
For all round earthers the reality is unanimous, but for flat earthers you squabble about theories each more ridiculous than the last: infinite plane with sun illuminating only some of it, ever replenishing oceans, and a gigantic wall of ice that has lasted billions of years without melting or being discovered. And against real evidence all you guys have is speculation and no proof
Why that's preposterous my good man!

Re: Enough Beating around the bush
« Reply #33 on: March 03, 2012, 11:49:33 PM »
Anyone?
Why that's preposterous my good man!

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Re: Enough Beating around the bush
« Reply #34 on: March 04, 2012, 01:04:50 AM »
I have yet to see a solid piece of evidence proving your theory, all I have seen is people who can type half of a page about the wording or grammar of the post, so please just give my some solid evidence of this flat earth.

I'm not sure about other posters you have encountered, but I assure you that I have beaten no bushes or around them for that matter.

I see what you did there, cool story bro, how about a quality post retorting his comment?

 Look out your window your five senses are the supreme beings of understanding the truth of the universe around you, we can't see air so its obviously not there, we see in color so its obvious that objects in reality are colored and their colors arent based off the reflected light that goes into and get processed by our eyes.

Look outside and the world look flat therefore it is flat. As Bill O'Rielly would say to RE'rs: You can't explain that!

Stop with the "it looks flat" phrase, because it doesn't. If it looked flat it would not ever have a sharp horizon and celestial objects would not be obscured by the horizon. It doesn't even look f*cking flat. The horizon prevents it from having the appearance of a flat plane. Anyone who babbles "it looks flat" ought to compare it with any other flat surface and note the difference in appearance.

You know I was being sarcastic.... right?  I thought it was pretty obvious lol

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Re: Enough Beating around the bush
« Reply #35 on: March 04, 2012, 05:30:23 AM »
I have yet to see a solid piece of evidence proving your theory, all I have seen is people who can type half of a page about the wording or grammar of the post, so please just give my some solid evidence of this flat earth.

I'm not sure about other posters you have encountered, but I assure you that I have beaten no bushes or around them for that matter.

I see what you did there, cool story bro, how about a quality post retorting his comment?

 Look out your window your five senses are the supreme beings of understanding the truth of the universe around you, we can't see air so its obviously not there, we see in color so its obvious that objects in reality are colored and their colors arent based off the reflected light that goes into and get processed by our eyes.

Look outside and the world look flat therefore it is flat. As Bill O'Rielly would say to RE'rs: You can't explain that!

Stop with the "it looks flat" phrase, because it doesn't. If it looked flat it would not ever have a sharp horizon and celestial objects would not be obscured by the horizon. It doesn't even look f*cking flat. The horizon prevents it from having the appearance of a flat plane. Anyone who babbles "it looks flat" ought to compare it with any other flat surface and note the difference in appearance.

You know I was being sarcastic.... right?  I thought it was pretty obvious lol

Yes I do know, however I have a beef with anyone treating the phrase "it looks flat" as if it's accurate. The simple fact is that RE'ers make life difficult for themselves by agreeing with the FE'er assertion that what we see looks like we're on a flat plane, as to do so is to accept a false statement. Your sarcasm worked from the false premise "it looks flat but that doesn't mean it is" rather than the true premise "it doesn't look flat, which means it probably isn't."
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Re: Enough Beating around the bush
« Reply #36 on: March 04, 2012, 09:34:50 AM »



The city is obviously being obscured by the waves.

It's not obvious to me.

Are you honestly saying that you don't see the waves on the horizon in that image?

From that photograph, I would characterize the sea state to be smooth to slight.  Not nearly significant enough to affect the view at the horizon.
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Re: Enough Beating around the bush
« Reply #37 on: March 04, 2012, 10:17:47 AM »
Can anyone answer my reply outlining some basic evidence against Fe? because if you cannot refute those simple points, surely you cannot claim your theory is legitimate.
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Re: Enough Beating around the bush
« Reply #38 on: March 04, 2012, 10:32:18 AM »
Can anyone answer my reply outlining some basic evidence against Fe? because if you cannot refute those simple points, surely you cannot claim your theory is legitimate.
They could before?
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Re: Enough Beating around the bush
« Reply #39 on: March 04, 2012, 10:34:40 AM »
Can anyone answer my reply outlining some basic evidence against Fe? because if you cannot refute those simple points, surely you cannot claim your theory is legitimate.
They could before?

touché
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Re: Enough Beating around the bush
« Reply #40 on: March 04, 2012, 10:37:21 AM »
If the world was round, I could drop a marble on the floor and it would roll downhill. Forever. Seeing as how marbles don't do that, the earth must be flat.

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Re: Enough Beating around the bush
« Reply #41 on: March 04, 2012, 10:47:12 AM »
If the world was round, I could drop a marble on the floor and it would roll downhill. Forever. Seeing as how marbles don't do that, the earth must be flat.

Seeing as how gravity acts as a force perpendicular to the circumference of the planet, I'd have to laugh at that statement.

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Re: Enough Beating around the bush
« Reply #42 on: March 04, 2012, 10:48:46 AM »
If the world was round, I could drop a marble on the floor and it would roll downhill. Forever.

Are you saying that there is no difference between a hill and a sphere?  ???
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Re: Enough Beating around the bush
« Reply #43 on: March 04, 2012, 10:54:06 AM »
If the world was round, I could drop a marble on the floor and it would roll downhill. Forever.

Are you saying that there is no difference between a hill and a sphere?  ???
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down·hill  (dounhl)
adv.
1. Down the slope of a hill.
2. Toward a lower or worse condition: The alcoholic's health went downhill fast.
adj. (dounhl)
1. Sloping downward; descending.

"The more you know!"

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Re: Enough Beating around the bush
« Reply #44 on: March 04, 2012, 10:58:11 AM »
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down·hill  (dounhl)
adv.
1. Down the slope of a hill.
2. Toward a lower or worse condition: The alcoholic's health went downhill fast.
adj. (dounhl)
1. Sloping downward; descending.

"The more you know!"
I find this hilarious.
I sincerely hope you are not serious.
Please, know more about what you are arguing for.
Sun Tzu says; Know yourself and know your enemy.
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Re: Enough Beating around the bush
« Reply #45 on: March 04, 2012, 11:00:59 AM »
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down·hill  (dounhl)
adv.
1. Down the slope of a hill.
2. Toward a lower or worse condition: The alcoholic's health went downhill fast.
adj. (dounhl)
1. Sloping downward; descending.

"The more you know!"
I find this hilarious.
I sincerely hope you are not serious.
Please, know more about what you are arguing for.
Sun Tzu says; Know yourself and know your enemy.

Why do you wish us to be enemies? We are a community, not a battleground. Please take your warmongering elsewhere.

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Re: Enough Beating around the bush
« Reply #46 on: March 04, 2012, 11:01:36 AM »
If the world was round, I could drop a marble on the floor and it would roll downhill. Forever.

Are you saying that there is no difference between a hill and a sphere?  ???
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down·hill  (dounhl)
adv.
1. Down the slope of a hill.
2. Toward a lower or worse condition: The alcoholic's health went downhill fast.
adj. (dounhl)
1. Sloping downward; descending.

"The more you know!"

Wow being ignored when you're right is just delicious lol

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Re: Enough Beating around the bush
« Reply #47 on: March 04, 2012, 11:03:08 AM »
If the world was round, I could drop a marble on the floor and it would roll downhill. Forever.

Are you saying that there is no difference between a hill and a sphere?  ???
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down·hill  (dounhl)
adv.
1. Down the slope of a hill.
2. Toward a lower or worse condition: The alcoholic's health went downhill fast.
adj. (dounhl)
1. Sloping downward; descending.

"The more you know!"

Wow being ignored when you're right is just delicious lol

Not quite as delicious as you thinking you are right.

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Re: Enough Beating around the bush
« Reply #48 on: March 04, 2012, 11:04:08 AM »



The city is obviously being obscured by the waves.

It's not obvious to me.

Are you honestly saying that you don't see the waves on the horizon in that image?

Are these waves 20 feet high?

In comparison to the city? Easily.

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Re: Enough Beating around the bush
« Reply #49 on: March 04, 2012, 11:05:21 AM »
Bedford.

Which experiments?  Just the ones you agree with?

All of the ones that weren't faked. Rowbotham, Blount, Daniel.




So essentially all of the people that misinterpreted Bedford's experiments?

Citation needed

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Re: Enough Beating around the bush
« Reply #50 on: March 04, 2012, 11:05:34 AM »
If the world was round, I could drop a marble on the floor and it would roll downhill. Forever.

Are you saying that there is no difference between a hill and a sphere?  ???
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down·hill  (dounhl)
adv.
1. Down the slope of a hill.
2. Toward a lower or worse condition: The alcoholic's health went downhill fast.
adj. (dounhl)
1. Sloping downward; descending.

"The more you know!"

Wow being ignored when you're right is just delicious lol

Not quite as delicious as you thinking you are right.

Usually people would have evidence to the contrary, but I see FE'rs need some time to make up more stuff :)

Re: Enough Beating around the bush
« Reply #51 on: March 04, 2012, 11:06:14 AM »
Love how this turns into a debate about an errant comment and semantics. You FE'ers are just avoiding having to answer anything, because you CAN'T!
Why that's preposterous my good man!

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Re: Enough Beating around the bush
« Reply #52 on: March 04, 2012, 11:07:55 AM »
For all round earthers the reality is unanimous, but for flat earthers you squabble about theories each more ridiculous than the last: infinite plane with sun illuminating only some of it, ever replenishing oceans, and a gigantic wall of ice that has lasted billions of years without melting or being discovered. And against real evidence all you guys have is speculation and no proof


Reality is far from unanimous for RE'ers. And as I tell everyone here at least five times, we don't have funding and are therefore content with providing as many working theories as we can.

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Re: Enough Beating around the bush
« Reply #53 on: March 04, 2012, 11:09:18 AM »
Love how this turns into a debate about an errant comment and semantics. You FE'ers are just avoiding having to answer anything, because you CAN'T!

I suggest you take a look at who started that (spoiler: it was Markjo, an RE'er)

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Re: Enough Beating around the bush
« Reply #54 on: March 04, 2012, 11:09:41 AM »
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down·hill  (dounhl)
adv.
1. Down the slope of a hill.
2. Toward a lower or worse condition: The alcoholic's health went downhill fast.
adj. (dounhl)
1. Sloping downward; descending.

"The more you know!"
I find this hilarious.
I sincerely hope you are not serious.
Please, know more about what you are arguing for.
Sun Tzu says; Know yourself and know your enemy.

Why do you wish us to be enemies? We are a community, not a battleground. Please take your warmongering elsewhere.
That depends on your definition of enemy.
If I disagree with you, we are in some form or another enemies, are we not?
Though, I am not directly referring myself, rather the RET in general.

In any case, it does not excuse your ignorance.
God bless the Enclave.

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Re: Enough Beating around the bush
« Reply #55 on: March 04, 2012, 11:10:55 AM »
If I disagree with you, we are in some form or another enemies, are we not?

And that's why America is so far in debt

Re: Enough Beating around the bush
« Reply #56 on: March 04, 2012, 11:11:01 AM »
Bedford.

Which experiments?  Just the ones you agree with?

All of the ones that weren't faked. Rowbotham, Blount, Daniel.




So essentially all of the people that misinterpreted Bedford's experiments?

Citation needed

Your society needs a citation. Seeing as the whole thing is based on the misconception of Rowbotham, who definitely misinterpreted the experiments
Why that's preposterous my good man!

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Re: Enough Beating around the bush
« Reply #57 on: March 04, 2012, 11:12:09 AM »
That depends on your definition of enemy.
If I disagree with you, we are in some form or another enemies, are we not?
Though, I am not directly referring myself, rather the RET in general.

In any case, it does not excuse your ignorance.

I suggest you find the definition of enemy and then come back to tell me what you have learned. While you're at it, find the definition of irony as well.

Seeing as the whole thing is based on the misconception of Rowbotham, who definitely misinterpreted the experiments

Go ahead, stick your head in the sand, we will continue on without you.
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Re: Enough Beating around the bush
« Reply #58 on: March 04, 2012, 11:12:49 AM »
Rowbotham, who definitely misinterpreted the experiments

Citation needed

Re: Enough Beating around the bush
« Reply #59 on: March 04, 2012, 11:13:55 AM »
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down·hill  (dounhl)
adv.
1. Down the slope of a hill.
2. Toward a lower or worse condition: The alcoholic's health went downhill fast.
adj. (dounhl)
1. Sloping downward; descending.

"The more you know!"
I find this hilarious.
I sincerely hope you are not serious.
Please, know more about what you are arguing for.
Sun Tzu says; Know yourself and know your enemy.

Why do you wish us to be enemies? We are a community, not a battleground. Please take your warmongering elsewhere.
That depends on your definition of enemy.
If I disagree with you, we are in some form or another enemies, are we not?
Though, I am not directly referring myself, rather the RET in general.

In any case, it does not excuse your ignorance.

I suggest you find the definition of enemy and then come back to tell me what you have learned. While you're at it, find the definition of irony as well.

Coming from the marble guy?????
Why that's preposterous my good man!