What the future holds for your cult

sometime in the near future I am fairly certain that your theory will be disproved entirely. We are coming closer and closer to public space travel (for those with the money to do so). There is no way that the government and NASA can pay off every cosmonaut and astronomer to keep quiet. how does one keep such a massive fact hidden. You cant.   

Look at any secret anyone has ever tried to keep, secrets can only be kept in small closely knit groups. At least hundreds have been into space and at least a couple of them, would talk if the earth was flat. Your "theory" is based on speculation and wild leaps of faith. please prove me wrong

If everyone on the flat earth society were to chip in, I'm sure they could come up with enough for one ticket for a founding member...say Tom Bishop, Lord Wilmore, Daniel? Then they could know for sure!

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Look at any secret anyone has ever tried to keep, secrets can only be kept in small closely knit groups. At least hundreds have been into space and at least a couple of them, would talk if the earth was flat. Your "theory" is based on speculation and wild leaps of faith. please prove me wrong

You know, you only find out about a secret if it leaks. There's a bit of confirmation bias here.

If everyone on the flat earth society were to chip in, I'm sure they could come up with enough for one ticket for a founding member...say Tom Bishop, Lord Wilmore, Daniel? Then they could know for sure!

We have this discussion all the time. The only way we could be truly sure would be if we built the space shuttle ourselves, as Branson could easily be a member of the conspiracy or simply be conning us.

sometime in the near future I am fairly certain that your theory will be disproved entirely. We are coming closer and closer to public space travel (for those with the money to do so). There is no way that the government and NASA can pay off every cosmonaut and astronomer to keep quiet. how does one keep such a massive fact hidden. You cant.   

We've been a couple of years away from private spaceflight for the last fifty years.

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We have this discussion all the time. The only way we could be truly sure would be if we built the space shuttle ourselves, as Branson could easily be a member of the conspiracy or simply be conning us.

How convenient for your ridiculous society.

What about a base on the moon? Would that put the flat earth society to rest?

What about a base on the moon? Would that put the flat earth society to rest?

What about a magical pink unicorn that flies us into the sky and takes us to the glorious land of the Round Earth? Yeah, I guess that would end the Flat Earth Society, but I don't see it happening any time soon.

When Zetetics do finally get into space, they will find it a giant disc, lit by our spherical sun.
A new dawn will exist, and explorers will finally search for what is beyond the unlit area, far beyond Antarctic. Will be a glorious day...

Quote from: Tausami on March 01, 2012, 12:20:11 PM

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We have this discussion all the time. The only way we could be truly sure would be if we built the space shuttle ourselves, as Branson could easily be a member of the conspiracy or simply be conning us.

How convenient for your ridiculous society.

You're still around? I'm impressed. You might even be the next Knowledge (not the next Clocksy, though. He's actually quite clever)

What about a base on the moon? Would that put the flat earth society to rest?

Light from the moon is extremely dangerous to nearly all life on Earth. Even with the mitigating effects of our ozone and magnetic field(s), people are still suffering from moon-seizures, contracting skin and colon cancer, dying from moon-fueled tropical storms, and other ill effects. If landing on the moon is even possible, it's best left for unmanned crafts.

Quote from: areyouguysserious on March 01, 2012, 03:06:53 PM

What about a base on the moon? Would that put the flat earth society to rest?

Light from the moon is extremely dangerous to nearly all life on Earth. Even with the mitigating effects of our ozone and magnetic field(s), people are still suffering from moon-seizures, contracting skin and colon cancer, dying from moon-fueled tropical storms, and other ill effects. If landing on the moon is even possible, it's best left for unmanned crafts.

Ha!  Everyone knows all of those conditions are caused by witches, not the moon.  And, they can be easily cured using leaches, candles, and and blood letting.

Quote from: areyouguysserious on March 01, 2012, 03:06:53 PM

What about a base on the moon? Would that put the flat earth society to rest?

Light from the moon is extremely dangerous to nearly all life on Earth. Even with the mitigating effects of our ozone and magnetic field(s), people are still suffering from moon-seizures, contracting skin and colon cancer, dying from moon-fueled tropical storms, and other ill effects. If landing on the moon is even possible, it's best left for unmanned crafts.

I don't see how you can possibly think the moon's light is harmful in any way. All the organisms (landbased) on earth are subjected to the moons rays every night, and have been for as long as the earth has been around. (not humans so much, but animal and plant forms) Guess what! They still flourish, despite being bombarded with deadly moon rays night after night. Moon seizures? Give me a break and please provide some documentation. Also some documentation of skin and colon cancer being caused by prolonged exposure to moon light. Oh that's right, you can't, you prattling nincompoop.

What about a magical pink unicorn that flies us into the sky and takes us to the glorious land of the Round Earth? Yeah, I guess that would end the Flat Earth Society, but I don't see it happening any time soon.

The magical pink unicorn is a rocket propelled space craft, the kind that takes off from Cape Canaveral all the time, idiot. And I don't know when or if it would ever happen, but politicians keep bringing the subject up. Are they part of the conspiracy too?

Quote from: Pongo on March 01, 2012, 08:42:33 PM

Quote from: areyouguysserious on March 01, 2012, 03:06:53 PM

What about a base on the moon? Would that put the flat earth society to rest?

Light from the moon is extremely dangerous to nearly all life on Earth. Even with the mitigating effects of our ozone and magnetic field(s), people are still suffering from moon-seizures, contracting skin and colon cancer, dying from moon-fueled tropical storms, and other ill effects. If landing on the moon is even possible, it's best left for unmanned crafts.

Ha!  Everyone knows all of those conditions are caused by witches, not the moon.  And, they can be easily cured using leaches, candles, and and blood letting.

The only thing I'll give him of that are weather conditions, because the moon's gravitational pull does create effects here on earth, such as the tides.

Quote from: Pongo on March 01, 2012, 08:42:33 PM

Quote from: areyouguysserious on March 01, 2012, 03:06:53 PM

What about a base on the moon? Would that put the flat earth society to rest?

Light from the moon is extremely dangerous to nearly all life on Earth. Even with the mitigating effects of our ozone and magnetic field(s), people are still suffering from moon-seizures, contracting skin and colon cancer, dying from moon-fueled tropical storms, and other ill effects. If landing on the moon is even possible, it's best left for unmanned crafts.

I don't see how you can possibly think the moon's light is harmful in any way. All the organisms (landbased) on earth are subjected to the moons rays every night, and have been for as long as the earth has been around. (not humans so much, but animal and plant forms) Guess what! They still flourish, despite being bombarded with deadly moon rays night after night. Moon seizures? Give me a break and please provide some documentation. Also some documentation of skin and colon cancer being caused by prolonged exposure to moon light. Oh that's right, you can't, you prattling nincompoop.

Some people believe that the sun emits harmful UV radiation yet we are all still here. No one has ever argued that a moment of exposure to moonlight equals instant death or even noticeable effects. The fact that so many RE'ers constantly go to this arguements shows they have not read the information. Also, I have posted about moon related seizures and a study backing the claim. Look it up.

sometime in the near future I am fairly certain that your theory will be disproved entirely.

It already has been. Over and over again. They just pretend it hasn't. You'll find the threads that have proper disproofs either get derailed by FE'ers into arguments over semantics (INS disproving FE navigation, and about 100 other topics), accused of using false data (variations in g disproving UA), blamed on the conspiracy (everything), flatly denied (Midnight Sun in Antarctica, variations in g) blamed on mysterious undetected objects or forces (variations in g, Midnight Sun in Antarctica, eclipses), pretending not to understand the disproof (disproof of bendy light by invariance of stellar angular distance), ignoring contrary data (results of Bedford Level experiment conducted by anyone except Rowbotham), lies about the laws of physics (disproof of bendy light, ability to see the same side of the moon from everywhere) or simply just refused to be addressed at all (satellite dishes pointing at the same place, sun rising and setting at the equinoxes, some questions regarding INS, absolute location of the south pole.)

Quote from: krukoslik on March 01, 2012, 11:41:29 AM

sometime in the near future I am fairly certain that your theory will be disproved entirely.

It already has been. Over and over again. They just pretend it hasn't. You'll find the threads that have proper disproofs either get derailed by FE'ers into arguments over semantics (INS disproving FE navigation, and about 100 other topics), accused of using false data (variations in g disproving UA), blamed on the conspiracy (everything), flatly denied (Midnight Sun in Antarctica, variations in g) blamed on mysterious undetected objects or forces (variations in g, Midnight Sun in Antarctica, eclipses), pretending not to understand the disproof (disproof of bendy light by invariance of stellar angular distance), ignoring contrary data (results of Bedford Level experiment conducted by anyone except Rowbotham), lies about the laws of physics (disproof of bendy light, ability to see the same side of the moon from everywhere) or simply just refused to be addressed at all (satellite dishes pointing at the same place, sun rising and setting at the equinoxes, some questions regarding INS, absolute location of the south pole.)

If you have such a pessimistic view of our society with no hope of converting us, why do you come here?  You seem to feel that we are in denial and nothing can change our minds.

Quote from: The Knowledge on March 02, 2012, 11:43:21 AM

Quote from: krukoslik on March 01, 2012, 11:41:29 AM

sometime in the near future I am fairly certain that your theory will be disproved entirely.

It already has been. Over and over again. They just pretend it hasn't. You'll find the threads that have proper disproofs either get derailed by FE'ers into arguments over semantics (INS disproving FE navigation, and about 100 other topics), accused of using false data (variations in g disproving UA), blamed on the conspiracy (everything), flatly denied (Midnight Sun in Antarctica, variations in g) blamed on mysterious undetected objects or forces (variations in g, Midnight Sun in Antarctica, eclipses), pretending not to understand the disproof (disproof of bendy light by invariance of stellar angular distance), ignoring contrary data (results of Bedford Level experiment conducted by anyone except Rowbotham), lies about the laws of physics (disproof of bendy light, ability to see the same side of the moon from everywhere) or simply just refused to be addressed at all (satellite dishes pointing at the same place, sun rising and setting at the equinoxes, some questions regarding INS, absolute location of the south pole.)

If you have such a pessimistic view of our society with no hope of converting us, why do you come here?  You seem to feel that we are in denial and nothing can change our minds.

Irrelevant. And anyway, I am forbidden by the moderators from discussing my motives on this forum.
Care to explain any of the items in my post without using any of the cop-outs I list with them? If the earth is flat, it MUST be possible...

We explain them every time you post them. I'm not doing it again.

We explain them every time you post them. I'm not doing it again.

Please post a link to where one of those items is explained without using a listed cop-out.
Failure to do this is an example of yet another method of avoiding FET disproof: lies.

Quote from: areyouguysserious on March 02, 2012, 11:28:44 AM

Quote from: Pongo on March 01, 2012, 08:42:33 PM

Quote from: areyouguysserious on March 01, 2012, 03:06:53 PM

What about a base on the moon? Would that put the flat earth society to rest?

Light from the moon is extremely dangerous to nearly all life on Earth. Even with the mitigating effects of our ozone and magnetic field(s), people are still suffering from moon-seizures, contracting skin and colon cancer, dying from moon-fueled tropical storms, and other ill effects. If landing on the moon is even possible, it's best left for unmanned crafts.

I don't see how you can possibly think the moon's light is harmful in any way. All the organisms (landbased) on earth are subjected to the moons rays every night, and have been for as long as the earth has been around. (not humans so much, but animal and plant forms) Guess what! They still flourish, despite being bombarded with deadly moon rays night after night. Moon seizures? Give me a break and please provide some documentation. Also some documentation of skin and colon cancer being caused by prolonged exposure to moon light. Oh that's right, you can't, you prattling nincompoop.

Some people believe that the sun emits harmful UV radiation yet we are all still here. No one has ever argued that a moment of exposure to moonlight equals instant death or even noticeable effects. The fact that so many RE'ers constantly go to this arguements shows they have not read the information. Also, I have posted about moon related seizures and a study backing the claim. Look it up.

The sun does emit harmful UV radiation, which we are protected from by the magnetosphere. The moon is lit up by the sun...it doesn't have it's own mechanism of glowing. When the earth is not in the way of the suns rays, the moon is lit up, which is why sometimes you can see the moon even when it's still the middle of the day. I looked and found nothing about harmful moon effects on humans, maybe you can link the study for me. I also found nothing about the moon's light making people crazy (full moon effect), that's just an urban myth. I did find this helpful little excerpt though....

The researchers compared the timing of each seizure with the brightness of the Moon. Their results showed that during the brighter phases of the Moon's cycle there were fewer epileptic seizures in the corresponding 24-hour period.

'These findings suggest that epileptic seizures are less likely to occur on brighter nights,' says Dr Sallie Baxendale of the Institute of Neurology at University College London, who led the study.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1229856/Moons-phases-ARE-linked-epilepsy-say-scientists.html#ixzz1nzxOnEbN

That seems to indicate the moons light having a benign effect.

First of all there are no such thing as moon light, seeing as moon light is just the light of the sun reflected off the moon. Secondly there is absolutely nothing dangerous about it, seeing as it is sunlight and the moon does not change or alter it in any way

First of all there are no such thing as moon light, seeing as moon light is just the light of the sun reflected off the moon. Secondly there is absolutely nothing dangerous about it, seeing as it is sunlight and the moon does not change or alter it in any way

Indeed.

I have come to a conclusion. The flat earth society is dead and this is just a sorry ghost of the society, revived by the denziens of the Internet. It's that or this is the gathering point of the most naïve stubborn people in existence. So is it a joke or a real "society"?

There are a few die hard believers. Most of the actual society members don't frequent the upper fora. They prefer to congregate and haunt the dank caverns of the lower fora, where no "angry noobs" go to prove to them the full extent of their idiocy. They're safe down there....

There are a few die hard believers. Most of the actual society members don't frequent the upper fora. They prefer to congregate and haunt the dank caverns of the lower fora, where no "angry noobs" go to prove to them the full extent of their idiocy. They're safe down there....

We go to the lower boards because this really is a society, which is what you angry noobs don't get. We're more than just acquaintances.

First of all there are no such thing as moon light, seeing as moon light is just the light of the sun reflected off the moon. Secondly there is absolutely nothing dangerous about it, seeing as it is sunlight and the moon does not change or alter it in any way

If reflection does nothing at all to the composition of the light, why is moonlight a different colour from sunlight? Light from the moon (even if it is reflected from the sun) is broadcast on an entirely different range of wavelengths from that of the sun. Also, UV radiation is reflected much less than visible light so moonlight contains less UV.

I have come to a conclusion. The flat earth society is dead and this is just a sorry ghost of the society, revived by the denziens of the Internet. It's that or this is the gathering point of the most naïve stubborn people in existence. So is it a joke or a real "society"?

Naïve and stubborn are mutually exclusive, you can't be both. Also, since it's a plural you would use the masculine, so we'd be naïf anyway.

Quote from: Tausami on March 02, 2012, 01:27:46 PM

We explain them every time you post them. I'm not doing it again.

Please post a link to where one of those items is explained without using a listed cop-out.
Failure to do this is an example of yet another method of avoiding FET disproof: lies.

Quote from: The Knowledge on February 27, 2012, 04:14:17 PM

Quote from: Tausami on February 27, 2012, 04:03:09 PM

Quote from: The Knowledge on February 27, 2012, 03:50:41 PM

Quote from: Thork on February 27, 2012, 03:36:27 PM

If Tom and all the FErs go ... then what? There is just a bunch of people saying "The earth is round". "Yes, I think its round too." "Yes, we all concur its round".
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If Tom went, that would be simply awful for FES. He is the site's welcome wagon, and I'll bet he was every bit as patient with you as he was with the thousands and thousands of people before you, that asked the same stupid questions.

I see Tom more as the warm up guy for the RE'ers to practice on before going up against the people who actually understand such concepts as optics, physics, cartography, cake making, etc.

And we see you as the annoyance we wish we could just ignore while we're debating Clocktower.

Yes, the level of attempted ignoring of a poster is directly proportional to how difficult their arguments are to counter, I've noticed. Midnight sun in Antarctica, anyone? No takers? Thought not. 

Eyewalls. Next?

TK, I never back down from an argument. Never. I forget to reply sometimes, but I never intentionally skip over a point. That's  why I come up with my crazy ideas. I'm under pressure to respond fairly quickly, so when I can't find an official argument I like I post the first thing I think of that makes sense.

By general douchebags reasoning, less uv light is worse for you, which is completely untrue

Again gettin sucked in by the FEs, this topic was about the impending doom of your cult, not whether the moons rays are harmful or not

Again gettin sucked in by the FEs, this topic was about the impending doom of your cult, not whether the moons rays are harmful or not

This is not a cult and there is no impending doom.