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Text is better than Talk

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Vongeo

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Text is better than Talk
« on: February 20, 2012, 08:37:48 PM »
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Quote from: Roundy the Truthinessist on April 12, 2010, 02:47:19 PM
Vongeo is a wanker, he wears a wanker hat; he always smells like urine and he thinks the Earth is flat.

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Re: Text is better than Talk
« Reply #1 on: February 20, 2012, 08:39:04 PM »
Antisocial bias.
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Vongeo

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Re: Text is better than Talk
« Reply #2 on: February 20, 2012, 08:46:07 PM »
 a) When tested people wrote more complex sentences than they spoke
 b) Vocabulary and description increases
 c) People may argue that tone is lost, but tone can be conveyed in words used
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Quote from: Roundy the Truthinessist on April 12, 2010, 02:47:19 PM
Vongeo is a wanker, he wears a wanker hat; he always smells like urine and he thinks the Earth is flat.

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Rushy

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Re: Text is better than Talk
« Reply #3 on: February 20, 2012, 08:49:44 PM »
Quote from: Vongeo on February 20, 2012, 08:46:07 PM
a) When tested people wrote more complex sentences than they spoke

Sounds legit.

Quote from: Vongeo on February 20, 2012, 08:46:07 PM
b) Vocabulary and description increases

I guess it does with some people, but, "u shuld lrn how ppl rly txt."

Quote from: Vongeo on February 20, 2012, 08:46:07 PM
c) People may argue that tone is lost, but tone can be conveyed in words used

Blatantly incorrect.

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Re: Text is better than Talk
« Reply #4 on: February 20, 2012, 08:51:44 PM »
Text is inferior to talk, especially face to face talking.
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Vongeo

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Re: Text is better than Talk
« Reply #5 on: February 20, 2012, 08:56:23 PM »
Quote from: Irushwithscvs on February 20, 2012, 08:49:44 PM
ow ppl rly txt."

Quote from: Vongeo on February 20, 2012, 08:46:07 PM
c) People may argue that tone is lost, but tone can be conveyed in words used

Blatantly incorrect.
Ever have an english class?

Quote from: Irushwithscvs on February 20, 2012, 08:49:44 PM

Quote from: Vongeo on February 20, 2012, 08:46:07 PM
b) Vocabulary and description increases

I guess it does with some people, but, "u shuld lrn how ppl rly txt."

In a series of studies carried out in 06 07 beverly plester proved you wrong.
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Quote from: Roundy the Truthinessist on April 12, 2010, 02:47:19 PM
Vongeo is a wanker, he wears a wanker hat; he always smells like urine and he thinks the Earth is flat.

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Rushy

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Re: Text is better than Talk
« Reply #6 on: February 20, 2012, 08:57:57 PM »
Quote from: Vongeo on February 20, 2012, 08:56:23 PM
Quote from: Irushwithscvs on February 20, 2012, 08:49:44 PM
ow ppl rly txt."

Quote from: Vongeo on February 20, 2012, 08:46:07 PM
c) People may argue that tone is lost, but tone can be conveyed in words used

Blatantly incorrect.
Ever have an english class?

Ever been trolled?
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Vongeo

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Re: Text is better than Talk
« Reply #7 on: February 20, 2012, 09:06:56 PM »
Quote from: Irushwithscvs on February 20, 2012, 08:57:57 PM
Quote from: Vongeo on February 20, 2012, 08:56:23 PM
Quote from: Irushwithscvs on February 20, 2012, 08:49:44 PM
ow ppl rly txt."

Quote from: Vongeo on February 20, 2012, 08:46:07 PM
c) People may argue that tone is lost, but tone can be conveyed in words used

Blatantly incorrect.
Ever have an english class?

Ever been trolled?
Never.
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Quote from: Roundy the Truthinessist on April 12, 2010, 02:47:19 PM
Vongeo is a wanker, he wears a wanker hat; he always smells like urine and he thinks the Earth is flat.

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Rushy

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Re: Text is better than Talk
« Reply #8 on: February 20, 2012, 09:11:41 PM »
Quote from: Vongeo on February 20, 2012, 09:06:56 PM
Quote from: Irushwithscvs on February 20, 2012, 08:57:57 PM
Quote from: Vongeo on February 20, 2012, 08:56:23 PM
Quote from: Irushwithscvs on February 20, 2012, 08:49:44 PM
ow ppl rly txt."

Quote from: Vongeo on February 20, 2012, 08:46:07 PM
c) People may argue that tone is lost, but tone can be conveyed in words used

Blatantly incorrect.
Ever have an english class?

Ever been trolled?
Never.

Mmhmm, well the point is that it is harder to troll in real life than it is over a textual environment because being face to face with someone conveys thousands of times more information than words alone. I'm not even sure why you keep bringing this subject up. Are you looking for a good excuse not to go out and talk to people?
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Vongeo

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Re: Text is better than Talk
« Reply #9 on: February 20, 2012, 09:18:09 PM »
Threads have topics.
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Quote from: Roundy the Truthinessist on April 12, 2010, 02:47:19 PM
Vongeo is a wanker, he wears a wanker hat; he always smells like urine and he thinks the Earth is flat.

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Re: Text is better than Talk
« Reply #10 on: February 20, 2012, 10:11:56 PM »
Quote from: Irushwithscvs on February 20, 2012, 08:49:44 PM
Quote from: Vongeo on February 20, 2012, 08:46:07 PM
c) People may argue that tone is lost, but tone can be conveyed in words used

Blatantly incorrect.

When was the last time you read a book?  ???
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Re: Text is better than Talk
« Reply #11 on: February 20, 2012, 10:15:26 PM »
I much, much, much prefer writing to talking face-to-face.
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Vindictus

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Re: Text is better than Talk
« Reply #12 on: February 20, 2012, 10:18:02 PM »
Quote from: Supertails on February 20, 2012, 10:15:26 PM
I much, much, much prefer writing to talking face-to-face.

I do too, but only because text is usually easier and it's disadvantages don't normally matter in most communications I make.
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Re: Text is better than Talk
« Reply #13 on: February 20, 2012, 10:32:52 PM »
omg txtin iz sooo kewl! itz lik3, s0 much betr den talkin!!!1
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Re: Text is better than Talk
« Reply #14 on: February 20, 2012, 11:45:30 PM »
For informational purposes, texting is much more appropriate. When I want to let someone know I'm leaving home/work, or I'll be late, or reminders about what the fridge is out of, texting is the best option. It's much faster, because you get to skip the formalities of a phone call.
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Wendy

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Re: Text is better than Talk
« Reply #15 on: February 20, 2012, 11:47:37 PM »
There are good and bad things about both forms of language. The fact that people use more complete sentences in text than they do in speech is probably because they weren't using an analogous form of written communication. I use complete sentences here on FES for the most part but if I'm in an IM window, I don't need to, and the conversation can change so dramatically that in some cases, I would always lag behind if I did. Do people use more complete sentences in a formal debate where you take turns to present your arguments than in casual conversation? I think they do, though I unfortunately can't present any evidence for this. There's also the fact that spoken communication, especially in a face-to-face situation, makes it many times easier to convey emotion, sarcasm and subtle undertones than text does. I'm not going to go as far as Irush and say it's impossible, because I know it isn't, but we have all failed to catch ironic statements in writing where we would have noticed by tone of voice.
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Re: Text is better than Talk
« Reply #16 on: February 21, 2012, 01:23:05 AM »
You can't misspell words when you talk.

Quote from: Vongeo on February 20, 2012, 08:46:07 PM
a) When tested people wrote more complex sentences than they spoke
To be expected, but my OCD would appreciate a source to learn more about the test(s).
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b) Vocabulary and description increases
Indubitably!
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c) People may argue that tone is lost, but tone can be conveyed in words used
NO U!
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Re: Text is better than Talk
« Reply #17 on: February 21, 2012, 01:31:14 AM »
It depends entirely on the purpose of the communication. As an informal chat to somebody you know, I don't think it matters much whether you talk or text. in an emotional argument or discussion, being able to readfacial expressions and hearing the tone of voice is important. For scientific or plain factual debates I'd rather write as it gives you more time to consider the points, form your response and research your facts.
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Re: Text is better than Talk
« Reply #18 on: February 21, 2012, 01:32:09 AM »
Quote from: ﮎingulaЯiτy on February 21, 2012, 01:23:05 AM
You can't misspell words when you talk.

Sure you can. You can stutter, or mispronounce something horribly.
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Wendy

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Re: Text is better than Talk
« Reply #19 on: February 21, 2012, 03:03:05 AM »
That's not misspelling. However, you can't mispronounce words when you write. Unless you write phonetically.
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Re: Text is better than Talk
« Reply #20 on: February 21, 2012, 04:32:55 AM »
Quote from: EnglshGentleman on February 20, 2012, 10:11:56 PM
Quote from: Irushwithscvs on February 20, 2012, 08:49:44 PM
Quote from: Vongeo on February 20, 2012, 08:46:07 PM
c) People may argue that tone is lost, but tone can be conveyed in words used

Blatantly incorrect.

When was the last time you read a book?  ???

Irrelevant. We're directly comparing the tone of a written statement to the tone of a verbal statement.
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Re: Text is better than Talk
« Reply #21 on: February 21, 2012, 04:55:26 AM »
Then how is it irrelevant to compare the tone of a good book to the tone of a good oration or movie?
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Re: Text is better than Talk
« Reply #22 on: February 21, 2012, 04:56:56 AM »
Quote from: Wendy on February 21, 2012, 04:55:26 AM
Then how is it irrelevant to compare the tone of a good book to the tone of a good oration or movie?

???

Where did this even come from?
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Vongeo

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Re: Text is better than Talk
« Reply #23 on: February 21, 2012, 05:27:58 AM »
Quote from: ﮎingulaЯiτy on February 21, 2012, 01:23:05 AM
You can't misspell words when you talk.

Quote from: Vongeo on February 20, 2012, 08:46:07 PM
a) When tested people wrote more complex sentences than they spoke
To be expected, but my OCD would appreciate a source to learn more about the test(s).
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b) Vocabulary and description increases
Indubitably!
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c) People may argue that tone is lost, but tone can be conveyed in words used
NO U!
http://www.jstor.org/stable/2155877?seq=5
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Quote from: Roundy the Truthinessist on April 12, 2010, 02:47:19 PM
Vongeo is a wanker, he wears a wanker hat; he always smells like urine and he thinks the Earth is flat.

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Re: Text is better than Talk
« Reply #24 on: February 21, 2012, 05:36:48 AM »
i pR3F3R L33t t0 T3xt H4ND2 D0wn.  iT I2 50 mUCH 83tT3r TH4N t3XTin'.  p30PL3 th@ T3xT 4R3 4 8uNCh 0f 8r4in d34d r3t4rD2, wH3R3 42 L33t I2 t3h 5up3R k3wl l4n9u493 0F T3H h4x0r2.
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Re: Text is better than Talk
« Reply #25 on: February 21, 2012, 05:40:31 AM »
Haha, I actually read a study once, I'll see if I can find it, which showed a link between overall literacy and the propensity to send txts.
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Vongeo

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Re: Text is better than Talk
« Reply #26 on: February 21, 2012, 09:01:52 AM »
Quote from: Chris Spaghetti on February 21, 2012, 05:40:31 AM
Haha, I actually read a study once, I'll see if I can find it, which showed a link between overall literacy and the propensity to send txts.
If you read the same study I did kids who texted were more literate as they had to have a grasp on the language before abrv8ing it
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Quote from: Roundy the Truthinessist on April 12, 2010, 02:47:19 PM
Vongeo is a wanker, he wears a wanker hat; he always smells like urine and he thinks the Earth is flat.

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Re: Text is better than Talk
« Reply #27 on: February 21, 2012, 09:03:32 AM »
Quote from: WardoggKC130FE on February 21, 2012, 05:36:48 AM
i pR3F3R L33t t0 T3xt H4ND2 D0wn.  iT I2 50 mUCH 83tT3r TH4N t3XTin'.  p30PL3 th@ T3xT 4R3 4 8uNCh 0f 8r4in d34d r3t4rD2, wH3R3 42 L33t I2 t3h 5up3R k3wl l4n9u493 0F T3H h4x0r2.
Text language, just like Dialects, Scienctific language, or poetic language, is well received in the right venues
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Quote from: Roundy the Truthinessist on April 12, 2010, 02:47:19 PM
Vongeo is a wanker, he wears a wanker hat; he always smells like urine and he thinks the Earth is flat.

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Re: Text is better than Talk
« Reply #28 on: February 21, 2012, 09:05:11 AM »
Quote from: Vongeo on February 21, 2012, 09:01:52 AM
Quote from: Chris Spaghetti on February 21, 2012, 05:40:31 AM
Haha, I actually read a study once, I'll see if I can find it, which showed a link between overall literacy and the propensity to send txts.
If you read the same study I did kids who texted were more literate as they had to have a grasp on the language before abrv8ing it

Sounds like the same one.
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Re: Text is better than Talk
« Reply #29 on: February 22, 2012, 01:29:47 PM »
Why is this thread being presented as an either/or contest? Text is very useful, but it's been around for a long time, and most people still feel a desire or need for verbal communication. I have no doubt that txting is better than not texting, but it doesn't come at the expense of talking. I doubt people today really text more and talk less; rather they simply text. It helps us to communicate more than we could if we just spoke.
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