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George Bush's and Barack Obama have very different ideals and policies.

The lack of any distinction between the Obama and Bush government policies on any subject reinforces my initial gut instinct that Obama is a "house negro" (as a much repeated Al-Quaida spokesman put it immediately after Obama's election).

Although I do not believe that adultery should be legal, Bill Clinton is far more guilty of this and other crimes than John Edwards, but Edwards lacks the powerful protection of a corrupt ruling class which does defend the Clintons when necessary.

John Edwards is rejected by the wealthy minority ruling class of americans and chosen by its leaders to be destroyed via the manipulated legal system and controlled media.  This is because Edwards challenged its power rather than served it like the Clintons, Bushes, and Obamas have done.

John Edwards is a better man than Barack Obama and would make a far better President of the United States.  The news media can blow what it has said about him out of its nose because their deciding motive is to honour their employers' agendas and keep their jobs rather than reveal the news which is most vital.

George Bush = Barack Obama

Furthermore, this issue not at all unimportant because people who accept the politically relevant conclusions of the controlled medias will likely continue to be manipulated to think about politics and other issues in the way that the medias' owners want them to think.

You mean the man of the people with a 28,200 square foot house and 400 dollar hair cuts.  The one who cheated on his wife who was dying of cancer?  That John Edwards?  Yeah he seems like a classy Mofo.  Also calling Obama a House negro is racist and i am not even sure what you mean by it.  Obama has proven to be extremely smart and well spoken, even if you disagree with his policies or believe that he has been ineffective.  Edwards is just as corrupt and just as much of an asshole as every other politician has been for the last few decades.

B. Obama is part of the Akhenaton conspiracy/masonry (http://www.irishoriginsofcivilization.com/appendices/druidicsymbolism.html ).

The jesuits (worshippers of Horus/Osiris) form the most powerful secret society (outside of the Thule/Vril nazi/german secret societies in Antarctica, who are waiting for the return of the Black Sun/Nibiru in order to come back on the world stage of politics), overseeing the other two (Akhenaton masonry and the Canaanite/Jewish masonry).

B. Obama is part of the Akhenaton conspiracy/masonry (http://www.irishoriginsofcivilization.com/appendices/druidicsymbolism.html ).

The jesuits (worshippers of Horus/Osiris) form the most powerful secret society (outside of the Thule/Vril nazi/german secret societies in Antarctica, who are waiting for the return of the Black Sun/Nibiru in order to come back on the world stage of politics), overseeing the other two (Akhenaton masonry and the Canaanite/Jewish masonry).

Oh FFS, when we're all alive and well in 2013, can you please stop this Niburu/NWO bullshit?

Quote from: OrbisNonSufficit on February 24, 2012, 07:18:54 AM

You mean the man of the people with a 28,200 square foot house and 400 dollar hair cuts.  The one who cheated on his wife who was dying of cancer?  That John Edwards? Obama has proven to be extremely smart and well spoken...

I do not disagree with the accuracy of what you say (to my knowledge), but my focus here is on his faithfulness to his policies, and Obama compares very unfavorably to Edwards in this respect.

Quote from: OrbisNonSufficit on February 24, 2012, 07:18:54 AM

racist

No problem.  I will rephrase that statement:  Obama represents the predominantly white ruling class and not the average black american.  He does not represent the average american at all. 

The reason I specifically emphasized that Obama does not represent the average black ameican is not racism.  It is because the myth that he represents black americans has been especially emphasized by the media. 

To accuse anyone who opposes Obama as racist is a fallacy - although way too many who oppose him do unfortunately oppose him out of crude racism, and that is quite regrettable.  It is important to oppose Obama for the correct reasons, and people who oppose Obama yet like Bush are blind.

Obama has reimposed many of the banking restrictions that Bush took away.  He wants to raise taxes on the wealthy, and prevent cuts to social programs.  These are not republican policies, and are not reflected at all in Bush's policies.

I was not claiming that going against Obama makes you a racist, I was saying that calling him a "House Negro" without further explanation or citation was racist.

John Edward's lifestyle shows you how detached he was from the average american, i have strong doubts he would have been anymore helpful to the lower classes than Obama has been, especially considering that he came off (at least to me) as being intellectually inferior to Obama.  Of course intelligence is not the only factor that needs consideration, but Edwards cheated on his wife who was dying of cancer, if someone has such a cold heart as to do that, it is not unthinkable that they would abandon the lower classes they claimed they would protect.

I do not believe that Obama represents "black Americans" specifically.  He is the president, he represents every American.  I disagree with some of what he has done, but overall i think he was a much better option than Edwards, who to me is the scum of the earth.

Quote from: OrbisNonSufficit on February 24, 2012, 08:10:16 AM

Obama has reimposed many of the banking restrictions that Bush took away.

Hmm.  I was under the impression that Obama was the wealthy bankers' best friend who bailed them out (as opposed to bailing out someone more deserving such as the homeless) and has been the implementer of the pro-bank policy that was created by the Bush administration.
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20013452-503544.html
 

Quote from: OrbisNonSufficit on February 24, 2012, 08:10:16 AM

He wants to raise taxes on the wealthy, and prevent cuts to social programs.  These are not republican policies, and are not reflected at all in Bush's policies.

Those may be democratic words, but note that neither are they reflected at all in Obama's actions.

Quote from: OrbisNonSufficit on February 24, 2012, 08:10:16 AM

Edwards, who to me is the scum of the earth ... he came off (at least to me) as being intellectually inferior to Obama.

Obama is a scum who is good at rhetoric. 
Likewise, Ronald Reagan was a scum who was good at acting.
Both were popular while president because the mass media convinced people to marvel at their persuasive talents rather than their political prostitution.

Quote from: OrbisNonSufficit on February 24, 2012, 08:10:16 AM

He is the president, he represents every American.

If Obama represents me, then he is not the man for the job.

Letting banks fail is not a good idea in practice, trust me on that one.  The money should have been better regulated, but letting banks fail is not good, and not a problem created by Obama.

Like i said, i think all politicians are assholes, at least i would like a smart one.

He represents you, you just do not like him. 

I don't understand the criticism over the bail outs. What did people prefer instead? Let the banks crumple over and take the economy with them?

The guys were assholes, but I don't see another choice.

The American auto industry: proof bailouts work, as a last resort.

The American auto industry: proof bailouts work, as a last resort.

Whether they are a long term solution is still unknown though.

Also, history will regard both Bush and Obama as very meh and average presidents.

Why are you posting this now?

Also:
You're thinking too hard.  John Edwards is a simple politician.  The media just does what it always does: Gives people what they want to see.  And what they want to see is people being embarrassed and destroyed.

Quote from: Sean on February 24, 2012, 12:45:22 PM

The American auto industry: proof bailouts work, as a last resort.

Whether they are a long term solution is still unknown though.

Also, history will regard both Bush and Obama as very meh and average presidents.

I disagree. Bush was easily one of the worst.

Quote from: Wakka Wakka on February 24, 2012, 01:36:21 PM

Quote from: Sean on February 24, 2012, 12:45:22 PM

The American auto industry: proof bailouts work, as a last resort.

Whether they are a long term solution is still unknown though.

Also, history will regard both Bush and Obama as very meh and average presidents.

I disagree. Bush was easily one of the worst.

History will vindicate him!

Quote from: Wakka Wakka on February 24, 2012, 01:36:21 PM

Quote from: Sean on February 24, 2012, 12:45:22 PM

The American auto industry: proof bailouts work, as a last resort.

Whether they are a long term solution is still unknown though.

Also, history will regard both Bush and Obama as very meh and average presidents.

I disagree. Bush was easily one of the worst.

Was he good? Not really, but I doubt he will be reduced to the bottom of the barrel.

Quote from: Vindictus on February 24, 2012, 05:28:49 PM

Quote from: Wakka Wakka on February 24, 2012, 01:36:21 PM

Quote from: Sean on February 24, 2012, 12:45:22 PM

The American auto industry: proof bailouts work, as a last resort.

Whether they are a long term solution is still unknown though.

Also, history will regard both Bush and Obama as very meh and average presidents.

I disagree. Bush was easily one of the worst.

Was he good? Not really, but I doubt he will be reduced to the bottom of the barrel.

Why not?  I mean, sure, historians might overlook his numerous public gaffes, but on a larger scale, his presidency failed to accomplish its goals and left the country with a huge amount of baggage after he left office.  He launched a disastrous war that accomplished nothing, presided over one of the worst economic downturns in American history, and left the entire mess for the next president to clean up.

Quote from: levee on February 24, 2012, 07:25:07 AM

B. Obama is part of the Akhenaton conspiracy/masonry (http://www.irishoriginsofcivilization.com/appendices/druidicsymbolism.html ).

The jesuits (worshippers of Horus/Osiris) form the most powerful secret society (outside of the Thule/Vril nazi/german secret societies in Antarctica, who are waiting for the return of the Black Sun/Nibiru in order to come back on the world stage of politics), overseeing the other two (Akhenaton masonry and the Canaanite/Jewish masonry).

Oh FFS, when we're all alive and well in 2013, can you please stop this Niburu/NWO bullshit?

You haven't read my messages, have you? Have you ever heard of the Aurora Project? Please read carefully what I have written here...then comment...December 21st, 2012 (as an end for the fifth age) and the mayan calendar have been invented for a certain purpose...

Quote from: Chris Spaghetti on February 24, 2012, 07:51:54 AM

Quote from: levee on February 24, 2012, 07:25:07 AM

B. Obama is part of the Akhenaton conspiracy/masonry (http://www.irishoriginsofcivilization.com/appendices/druidicsymbolism.html ).

The jesuits (worshippers of Horus/Osiris) form the most powerful secret society (outside of the Thule/Vril nazi/german secret societies in Antarctica, who are waiting for the return of the Black Sun/Nibiru in order to come back on the world stage of politics), overseeing the other two (Akhenaton masonry and the Canaanite/Jewish masonry).

Oh FFS, when we're all alive and well in 2013, can you please stop this Niburu/NWO bullshit?

You haven't read my messages, have you? Have you ever heard of the Aurora Project? Please read carefully what I have written here...then comment...December 21st, 2012 (as an end for the fifth age) and the mayan calendar have been invented for a certain purpose...

The spy plane?

And what is specifically going to happen and how will us ignorant people know it happens?

And why wouldn't the mayan calendar be created for a specific purpose (farming)?

Quote from: Vindictus on February 24, 2012, 12:35:58 PM

I don't understand the criticism over the bail outs. What did people prefer instead? Let the banks crumple over and take the economy with them?

The guys were assholes, but I don't see another choice.

Nationalizing those banks should be objectively and seriously explored as an alternative to surrendering economic control over people into the hands of those who caused the problem.

The Bush/Obama bank bailout plan tends to slavery in my view.

Err... unless I'm mistaken, when they did the bailouts, the government took majority control of the bank until the bank bought back their shares.

Quote from: Wakka Wakka on February 24, 2012, 08:42:28 PM

Quote from: Vindictus on February 24, 2012, 05:28:49 PM

Quote from: Wakka Wakka on February 24, 2012, 01:36:21 PM

Quote from: Sean on February 24, 2012, 12:45:22 PM

The American auto industry: proof bailouts work, as a last resort.

Whether they are a long term solution is still unknown though.

Also, history will regard both Bush and Obama as very meh and average presidents.

I disagree. Bush was easily one of the worst.

Was he good? Not really, but I doubt he will be reduced to the bottom of the barrel.

Why not?  I mean, sure, historians might overlook his numerous public gaffes, but on a larger scale, his presidency failed to accomplish its goals and left the country with a huge amount of baggage after he left office.  He launched a disastrous war that accomplished nothing, presided over one of the worst economic downturns in American history, and left the entire mess for the next president to clean up.

Though I don't support the war, it can't be said that "it accomplished nothing" and  I still doubt he will not be raised in the same category as Grant or Buchanan.

Quote from: Chris Spaghetti on February 24, 2012, 07:51:54 AM

Quote from: levee on February 24, 2012, 07:25:07 AM

B. Obama is part of the Akhenaton conspiracy/masonry (http://www.irishoriginsofcivilization.com/appendices/druidicsymbolism.html ).

The jesuits (worshippers of Horus/Osiris) form the most powerful secret society (outside of the Thule/Vril nazi/german secret societies in Antarctica, who are waiting for the return of the Black Sun/Nibiru in order to come back on the world stage of politics), overseeing the other two (Akhenaton masonry and the Canaanite/Jewish masonry).

Oh FFS, when we're all alive and well in 2013, can you please stop this Niburu/NWO bullshit?

You haven't read my messages, have you? Have you ever heard of the Aurora Project? Please read carefully what I have written here...then comment...December 21st, 2012 (as an end for the fifth age) and the mayan calendar have been invented for a certain purpose...

The Hypersonic spy plane? What has that got to do with the Masons?

I consider the various Freemason associations to be about as threatening as the Rotary Club or the Women's Institute, by the way, and have seen no evidence to suggest otherwise.

The Mayans didn't see the coming of the Spanish. If they didn't foresee the end of their own civilisation I see no reason to trust their assessment of the end of ours. By the way, do you get the jitters around December every year when your own calendar approaches the end?

Obama can't win. People will be upset if he ends the war, and upset if he doesn't.

Quote from: Wakka Wakka on February 25, 2012, 07:00:07 PM

Though I don't support the war, it can't be said that "it accomplished nothing"

Technically correct, but it is difficult to sincerely enumerate much of any positive accomplishments.
The same can be said for Obama's war - yet another thing begun by Bush and accelerated by Obama.

I would say that removing Saddam from power was a positive accomplishment though the means it took were poorly executed.