Is Pokemon Dead?

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Tgor

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Is Pokemon Dead?
« on: February 15, 2012, 07:08:57 PM »
so guys what do you think. Is it dead after this gen or will it rise from the ashes like a phoenix once again.
I dont care what you think as long as it's about me.

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Re: Is Pokemon Dead?
« Reply #1 on: February 15, 2012, 07:09:35 PM »
It will never die.
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Re: Is Pokemon Dead?
« Reply #2 on: February 15, 2012, 07:17:44 PM »
It will live on in the "Do you guys remember this" forum posts across the world. Along with my 6Mhz gaming pc.

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Re: Is Pokemon Dead?
« Reply #3 on: February 15, 2012, 07:18:41 PM »

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Re: Is Pokemon Dead?
« Reply #4 on: February 15, 2012, 07:20:11 PM »
Pokemon always seems to die after the 3rd game in the generation, but then releases a new game in a year or 2 making it cool again but then it dies out again only to repeat the cycle.
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Re: Is Pokemon Dead?
« Reply #5 on: February 15, 2012, 07:29:18 PM »
Pokemon has always sucked and I don't know why people enjoy it.
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Re: Is Pokemon Dead?
« Reply #6 on: February 15, 2012, 07:35:58 PM »
Pokemon has always sucked and I don't know why people enjoy it.

This. Well, the first part of this. I enjoyed Pokemon when I was a child because I was young and stupid. Now, people enjoy it for nostalgic reasons.

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Re: Is Pokemon Dead?
« Reply #7 on: February 15, 2012, 08:02:07 PM »
I still enjoy the games.  >:(

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Re: Is Pokemon Dead?
« Reply #8 on: February 15, 2012, 08:44:03 PM »
so guys what do you think. Is it dead after this gen or will it rise from the ashes like a phoenix once again.
I think once something reaches a critical level it will never die; look at lego, Barbi, Star Wars crap, Thomas the Tank engine etc.  Once something achieves enough mainstream success as a particular 'brand', it can be repackaged, remarketed and will probably never leave our shelves.
Why do we fall back to earth? Because our weight pushes us down, no laws, no gravity pulling us. It is the law of intelligence.

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Re: Is Pokemon Dead?
« Reply #10 on: February 15, 2012, 10:25:43 PM »
They always come back.
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Re: Is Pokemon Dead?
« Reply #11 on: February 15, 2012, 11:36:03 PM »
Pokemon has always sucked and I don't know why people enjoy it.

While this is a bit harsh, it only appealed to me for a very brief time, and I never really liked the game. The petty little victories of most role-playing games and similar level-advancement-based games really aren't enough for me.
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Re: Is Pokemon Dead?
« Reply #12 on: February 16, 2012, 04:09:35 AM »
I've mentioned this before, but I feel like saying it again.

I've never played a Pokemon game.

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Re: Is Pokemon Dead?
« Reply #13 on: February 16, 2012, 06:04:52 AM »
I've never gotten past the second gym before losing interest.
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Re: Is Pokemon Dead?
« Reply #14 on: February 16, 2012, 06:19:01 AM »
Pokemon is still the strongest system seller for Nintendo. It's not going to die anytime soon so enjoy your ten generations of rehashed bullshit lol

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Re: Is Pokemon Dead?
« Reply #15 on: February 16, 2012, 06:21:38 AM »
Or we could choose not to. We don't have to pay Pokemon any notice at all, much less play it.
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Re: Is Pokemon Dead?
« Reply #16 on: February 16, 2012, 06:22:20 AM »
I've mentioned this before, but I feel like saying it again.

I've never played a Pokemon game.

Feels good man.

This, but I'm old so it may not count.

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Wendy

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Re: Is Pokemon Dead?
« Reply #17 on: February 16, 2012, 06:23:27 AM »
You're not old, it is we who are young.
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Re: Is Pokemon Dead?
« Reply #18 on: February 16, 2012, 10:39:50 PM »
Pokemon was a very well made turn-based RPG for the GameBoy. It appealed to all ages much the same way any game in the Mario line does.  A younger player could enjoy the game by filling their 'group' full of pokemon they simply liked, while an advanced player could EV and IV train pokemon for maximum potency.  From the first generation on, I have purchased a copy of each release.  While I do not have the time to play them all, they are all extremely well made RPG's and will provide enjoyment for all ages.  It is not a game strictly for children any more than each release of Mario Kart is. Their story lines may lack depth, but for a portable-console game, it's to be expected.

I cannot speak for the Trading Cad Game, or the T.V. show, or any other incarnation of the franchise, but anyone dismissing the games simply on the basis of what society tells you to think, they are missing out on a wonderfully crafted game.  There is a reason why each pokemon generation is phonemically successful.

I will object to anyone who argues that pokemon is a poor game.  Again, as for the other aspects of the game that do specifically target children, I cannot speak for as I have no experience with them.

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Re: Is Pokemon Dead?
« Reply #19 on: February 16, 2012, 10:43:32 PM »
Pongo must be right and I am wrong. I now realize I thoroughly enjoyed playing pokemon and it is the best game ever.
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Re: Is Pokemon Dead?
« Reply #20 on: February 17, 2012, 04:31:11 AM »
Pokemon 4ever!
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Re: Is Pokemon Dead?
« Reply #21 on: February 17, 2012, 04:35:07 AM »
Pongo must be right and I am wrong. I now realize I thoroughly enjoyed playing pokemon and it is the best game ever.

Pongo must be wrong. First and foremost, pokemon is not an RPG. It has level-based gameplay and turn-based combat, but those features do not define the role-playing game genre. It is no more an RPG series than the Need for Speed series is. Second, powergaming to get your pokemon as minmaxed as you can get them is not the sign of a more mature player and separating young players from advanced players is unnecessary because young players can obviously be good at the game. Third, if neither the cute, fluffy animals nor the powergaming grind-a-thon appeals to a player, Pokemon offers little else, thus making it a poor game for that kind of a consumer. QED, the pokemon games are bad.
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Re: Is Pokemon Dead?
« Reply #22 on: February 17, 2012, 10:22:52 AM »
Pongo must be right and I am wrong. I now realize I thoroughly enjoyed playing pokemon and it is the best game ever.

Pongo must be wrong. First and foremost, pokemon is not an RPG. It has level-based gameplay and turn-based combat, but those features do not define the role-playing game genre. It is no more an RPG series than the Need for Speed series is. Second, powergaming to get your pokemon as minmaxed as you can get them is not the sign of a more mature player and separating young players from advanced players is unnecessary because young players can obviously be good at the game. Third, if neither the cute, fluffy animals nor the powergaming grind-a-thon appeals to a player, Pokemon offers little else, thus making it a poor game for that kind of a consumer. QED, the pokemon games are bad.

I was on the precipice of typing a long reply detailing all the points in your argument that I disagreed with (or were erroneous) before I had a moment of clarity on the absurdity of it all.  If you've played them and don't like them then there is no way I can voice my praise that will change your mind.  If you haven't played them and hate them, then I doubt highly that you will try one out.  Shall we agree to disagree?

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Re: Is Pokemon Dead?
« Reply #23 on: February 18, 2012, 12:50:06 AM »
I always found pokemon to be gayer than a bag of dicks.

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Wendy

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Re: Is Pokemon Dead?
« Reply #24 on: February 19, 2012, 07:24:04 AM »
Pongo must be right and I am wrong. I now realize I thoroughly enjoyed playing pokemon and it is the best game ever.

Pongo must be wrong. First and foremost, pokemon is not an RPG. It has level-based gameplay and turn-based combat, but those features do not define the role-playing game genre. It is no more an RPG series than the Need for Speed series is. Second, powergaming to get your pokemon as minmaxed as you can get them is not the sign of a more mature player and separating young players from advanced players is unnecessary because young players can obviously be good at the game. Third, if neither the cute, fluffy animals nor the powergaming grind-a-thon appeals to a player, Pokemon offers little else, thus making it a poor game for that kind of a consumer. QED, the pokemon games are bad.

I was on the precipice of typing a long reply detailing all the points in your argument that I disagreed with (or were erroneous) before I had a moment of clarity on the absurdity of it all.  If you've played them and don't like them then there is no way I can voice my praise that will change your mind.  If you haven't played them and hate them, then I doubt highly that you will try one out.  Shall we agree to disagree?

Whether we do or don't, we will ultimately disagree. The petty victories of gaining a level or catching a pokemon don't appeal to me, and turn-based combat is not my idea of fun. I did think pokemon was a nice sci-fi concept as a kid, but that was it. Is it really so difficult to imagine someone not liking a level-based TBS game?
Here's an explanation for ya. Lurk moar. Every single point you brought up has been posted, reposted, debated and debunked. There is a search function on this forum, and it is very easy to use.

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Re: Is Pokemon Dead?
« Reply #25 on: February 20, 2012, 01:40:58 AM »
Pokemon's heyday was Gold/Silver for the GBC. The 251 pokemon were difficult to catch but not totally unrealistic, the world was huge and felt quite open. They day/night feature was amazingly cool for the time and helped suck you in to the game.

I still remember my kick-ass Silver party, before the game got corrupted :'(
Mewtwo
Mew
Gengar
Golem
Alakazam
Blissey

Ruby/Sapphire were interesting and fairly fun, but wass still pale in comparison to Gold/silver.