One Giant Leap (Conspiracy)

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One Giant Leap (Conspiracy)
« on: August 16, 2005, 08:39:49 AM »
The running theme here seems to be that all of the space missions in history were hoaxed, for if they were real, the Flat Earth Theory would simply be another dead horse to kick.

There are some problems here, obviously.

The first, practically speaking, is that NASA receives billions of dollars every year - taxpayers' dollars. With today's technology, NASA's faking a space flight would probably be less expensive than Discovery's heat tiles. Where's the rest of the money going? What else have they got to do with it, if they can't even get an inanimate piece of metal past the atmosphere?

Next, of course, is the fact that they did build the shuttles. They sit there in the launch pad for all to see. The crew boards the thing and it takes off, right in front of a huge crowd, and disappears into the sky.

The shuttle is a spacecraft, not an aircraft. It can't fly. Most of its fuel is expended in the first five minutes after the launch, while it's still clearly visible from the ground. You say it can't actually get into space, so it would have to abort its ascent at some point - presumably after it's no longer visible by the public. An incredible height, of course. And if it were to start its descent there and glide to some secret location, it would still create a heat trail visible for a hundred miles.

Which takes us to the most compelling evidence: you can see objects in space.

You.

Go find a pair of binoculars or a good telescope, drive out to some field in the country at night, and look up. You can see satellites. Tiny, usually just a moving, oddly-shaped point of light, but can NASA screw with your binoculars? And with the right timing, you can see the ISS. No edited video, no propaganda machine. The only thing between it and you is a few miles of air, and a few of none. ;)

I know you aren't likely to take the time to do that. So there's a bit more for you - on the most recent flight, not only did Discovery record uninterrupted footage from launch to orbit, but they tracked it from the ground, visually, from its final orbit to its landing at Edwards.

Could be faked, I suppose. Is it worth it? Indeed, what is "it?" The Cold War is over. American apathy has reached record heights. If they're not actually collecting scientific data in zero-G environments, which at this point is basically the purpose of the space program, then what's the point?

What did these people give their lives for?

And where the hell else can you do this?

Re: One Giant Leap (Conspiracy)
« Reply #1 on: August 16, 2005, 08:43:23 AM »
That video is amazing.

Re: One Giant Leap (Conspiracy)
« Reply #2 on: August 16, 2005, 08:52:44 AM »
You can do that on a free-falling plane, like they did during the filming of Apollo 13. Nice try, but not totally valid ;) And no amount of evidence will refute a hardcore conspiracy theorist, ever.

Re: One Giant Leap (Conspiracy)
« Reply #3 on: August 16, 2005, 08:55:04 AM »
Quote from: "Felix"
You can do that on a free-falling plane, like they did during the filming of Apollo 13. Nice try, but not totally valid ;)


Yep, just wanted an excuse to link to the video. :) The rest, though, is quite serious, and if there are actually any true believers remaining on this forum I invite them to refute it.

Re: One Giant Leap (Conspiracy)
« Reply #4 on: August 16, 2005, 09:12:11 AM »
Very well. And thank you for linking to the video, for it is exceptionally cool.