The Moon is a Sphere

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The Moon is a Sphere
« on: February 11, 2012, 07:58:48 PM »
If the moon is a Sphere then why do we only see one side?
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Re: The Moon is a Sphere
« Reply #1 on: February 11, 2012, 08:06:17 PM »
In RET, the moon is tidally locked to the earth due to gravity. In FET, the moon is locked onto the Lunar Celestial Gear.

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Re: The Moon is a Sphere
« Reply #2 on: February 11, 2012, 08:12:57 PM »
What is keeping the Moon in orbit? Why doesn't the gravity pull it towards the earth?

Does gravity accelerate the further your are from the earth? How can satellites orbit the earth and the moon stay perfectly fixed towards the earth that far away?
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Re: The Moon is a Sphere
« Reply #3 on: February 11, 2012, 08:22:40 PM »
What is keeping the Moon in orbit? Why doesn't the gravity pull it towards the earth?

Does gravity accelerate the further your are from the earth? How can satellites orbit the earth and the moon stay perfectly fixed towards the earth that far away?

The moon is actually getting farther away from the earth as the years go by. The moon stays tidally locked in RET because it simply doesn't have the rotational momentum to move about on its own. Satellites (if they exist) do not have enough mass to suffer any tidal locking effect.

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Re: The Moon is a Sphere
« Reply #4 on: February 11, 2012, 08:37:00 PM »
What in the word is Tidal Locking?

Tell me how the moon can be moving away from the Earth and Orbiting at the same time?

I know nothing about physics yet this seems to defy all common sense and reality.
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Re: The Moon is a Sphere
« Reply #5 on: February 11, 2012, 08:57:04 PM »
What in the word is Tidal Locking?

Tell me how the moon can be moving away from the Earth and Orbiting at the same time?

I know nothing about physics yet this seems to defy all common sense and reality.

Most natural planetary satellites (or moons) are tidally locked. This is because a planet has such a great gravitational force that the natural satellite simply can not rotate on its own. What happens is that half of the natural satellite experiences a greater gravitational force (the closer half) than the other half (which is farther away from the planet). The result is tidal locking.

The moon has its own velocity that is a tangent of its orbit. This momentum is slightly (VERY slightly) overpowering the gravitational pull of the earth. In time, the moon may very well escape the earth entirely.

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Re: The Moon is a Sphere
« Reply #6 on: February 11, 2012, 08:59:40 PM »
And people call flat earthers crazy...
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Re: The Moon is a Sphere
« Reply #7 on: February 11, 2012, 09:04:05 PM »
The only way that would be possible is if the earth was swinging the moon around by a string and slowly releasing the string. Even then, it's quite obvious that the moon would still experience shifting and turning while being spun around and would be nearly impossible to stay perfectly faced towards us at all time. And we know for a fact that the earth is not swinging the moon around by a string.

The Flat Earth Theory states the moon is fixed to the Firmament or Sky Dome which rotates around the earth. Why makes so much sense doesn't it?

The scientists claim the moon is moving further away from the earth and orbiting at the same time while the earth is spinning and orbiting around the sun?

Does Physics allow for an object to be going in two directions at the same time? How can the Moon MOVE AWAY and AROUND?
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Re: The Moon is a Sphere
« Reply #8 on: February 11, 2012, 09:16:15 PM »
The Flat Earth Theory states the moon is fixed to the Firmament or Sky Dome which rotates around the earth. Why makes so much sense doesn't it?

Pretty much.


The scientists claim the moon is moving further away from the earth and orbiting at the same time while the earth is spinning and orbiting around the sun?

Yes.

Does Physics allow for an object to be going in two directions at the same time? How can the Moon MOVE AWAY and AROUND?

It is not moving in two directions, in RET the moon moves in a very gradual outwards spiral. When I say very gradual I mean it takes millions of years for the moon to noticeably get farther away.

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Re: The Moon is a Sphere
« Reply #9 on: February 11, 2012, 09:31:31 PM »
Even then, it's quite obvious that the moon would still experience shifting and turning while being spun around and would be nearly impossible to stay perfectly faced towards us at all time.

You mean like this?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Lunation_animation_November_2009.gif
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Re: The Moon is a Sphere
« Reply #10 on: February 11, 2012, 09:34:58 PM »
There's photographic evidence that the moon is as flat as the Earth.
Where did you educate the biology, in toulet?

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Re: The Moon is a Sphere
« Reply #11 on: February 11, 2012, 09:43:08 PM »
the moon is as flat as the Earth.

Correct. The moon's degree of flatness is indeed similar to the earth's.
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Re: The Moon is a Sphere
« Reply #12 on: February 11, 2012, 09:43:51 PM »
the moon is as flat as the Earth.

Correct. The moon's degree of flatness is indeed similar to the earth's.

Great, I'm glad we agree on that point.  Common ground.
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Re: The Moon is a Sphere
« Reply #13 on: February 11, 2012, 09:44:30 PM »
There's photographic evidence that the moon is as flat as the Earth.

Nicely put.
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Re: The Moon is a Sphere
« Reply #14 on: February 11, 2012, 10:53:02 PM »
Aww I bet you guys really thought you nailed this coffin shut didn't you?

Well, unfortunately I have two remarks:

A. Is that a Nasa animation? =P

I know you're tired of hearing that so

B. That Animation is Consistent with Flat Earth Theory with the moon fixed to the Firmament or Sky Dome rotating around the Flat Disc Earth.

So.... yeah. Makes a lot more sense then all these crazy unknown gravitational forces pulling things all sorts of ways spinning 1000s of miles per hour all around the Universe meanwhile moon just chillin'.
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Re: The Moon is a Sphere
« Reply #15 on: February 11, 2012, 11:29:08 PM »
Is that a Nasa animation?

No, it was done individually by Tom Ruen. This information can be found easily through the link. The fact that you asked this question proves your laziness and short attention span.


That Animation is Consistent with Flat Earth Theory

Who said it wasn't? The moon is still a sphere in FET. You're just yet again making a fool of yourself to believers and nonbelievers alike.
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Re: The Moon is a Sphere
« Reply #16 on: February 11, 2012, 11:35:26 PM »
Yeah I'm no expert on Flat Earth Moon Theory but I'd say it's possible it's hanging but it appears to be fixed on the side of the sky dome.
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Re: The Moon is a Sphere
« Reply #17 on: February 11, 2012, 11:41:45 PM »
I'd say it's possible it's hanging but it appears to be fixed on the side of the sky dome.

How ethnocentric of you.
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Re: The Moon is a Sphere
« Reply #18 on: February 11, 2012, 11:57:59 PM »
I already explained both sides of the argument. I'm not sure where iWitness is confused in this.

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Re: The Moon is a Sphere
« Reply #19 on: February 12, 2012, 12:01:56 AM »
I'm just saying the original descriptions of the earth in The Bible, Koran, Egyptian Cosmology, Native American legends and a variety of other sources mentioning a flat disc earth with rotating heavens makes a little more sense then the popular "Scientific Theory" that's all. =]
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Re: The Moon is a Sphere
« Reply #20 on: February 12, 2012, 12:03:32 AM »
I'm just saying the original descriptions of the earth in The Bible, Koran, Egyptian Cosmology, Native American legends and a variety of other sources mentioning a flat disc earth with rotating heavens makes a little more sense then the popular "Scientific Theory" that's all. =]

If that is the opinion you wish to have, you are welcome to it. It isn't one I'm going to share.

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Re: The Moon is a Sphere
« Reply #21 on: February 12, 2012, 12:08:05 AM »
But what about the marble?
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Re: The Moon is a Sphere
« Reply #22 on: February 12, 2012, 09:06:24 AM »
But what about the marble?

The marble is a purely scientific experiment and does not use any of the texts you listed as sources.

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Re: The Moon is a Sphere
« Reply #23 on: February 12, 2012, 09:34:18 AM »
I'm just saying the original descriptions of the earth in The Bible, Koran, Egyptian Cosmology, Native American legends and a variety of other sources mentioning a flat disc earth with rotating heavens makes a little more sense then the popular "Scientific Theory" that's all. =]

No that isn't what you're saying.

You're saying the moon isn't a sphere.

Have you read your thread lately?
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Re: The Moon is a Sphere
« Reply #24 on: February 12, 2012, 10:25:15 AM »
Yeah I'm no expert on Flat Earth Moon Theory ...

Then perhaps you should study FET some more before you try to disprove RET.
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Re: The Moon is a Sphere
« Reply #25 on: February 12, 2012, 10:30:11 AM »
What is keeping the Moon in orbit? Why doesn't the gravity pull it towards the earth?

Does gravity accelerate the further your are from the earth? How can satellites orbit the earth and the moon stay perfectly fixed towards the earth that far away?
Because according to RET the moon is pulling the oceans up as tides.
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Re: The Moon is a Sphere
« Reply #26 on: February 12, 2012, 10:47:24 AM »
Are you guys calling the Elders and authors of the sacred scriptures from across the world Liars? Quite a claim indeed. So that would mean there would have had to of been some huge conspiracy with all the different countries and languages to tell the world it was flat and make up a bunch of stories for financial gain?
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Re: The Moon is a Sphere
« Reply #27 on: February 12, 2012, 10:54:06 AM »
Are you guys calling the Elders and authors of the sacred scriptures from across the world Liars? Quite a claim indeed. So that would mean there would have had to of been some huge conspiracy with all the different countries and languages to tell the world it was flat and make up a bunch of stories for financial gain?

Ignorance and corruption are two different things. 

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Re: The Moon is a Sphere
« Reply #28 on: February 12, 2012, 11:11:29 AM »
And clearly, in this day and age, we are suffering from both.
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Re: The Moon is a Sphere
« Reply #29 on: February 12, 2012, 12:56:04 PM »
the moon at the very least is a half sphere, this can easily be determined with any cheap telescope.
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