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Re: earth flat
« Reply #60 on: February 05, 2012, 07:13:52 PM »
no need you tube provides video evidence of planes at 60,000 feet

It also provides video evidence of Naboo Starfighters at 60,000 feet.

Youtube is a medium, not a source. You'll need to discredit sources individually. For starters, can you discredit the source of " class="bbc_link" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">this video?

I watch video and it still look flat

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« Reply #61 on: February 05, 2012, 07:14:07 PM »
There's a panorama from the peak of Everest hanging around somewhere on the internet. I'll link it if I can find it.

EDIT: http://www.panoramas.dk/fullscreen2/full22.html

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« Reply #62 on: February 05, 2012, 07:16:43 PM »
no need you tube provides video evidence of planes at 60,000 feet

It also provides video evidence of Naboo Starfighters at 60,000 feet.

Youtube is a medium, not a source. You'll need to discredit sources individually. For starters, can you discredit the source of " class="bbc_link" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">this video?

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Photographs [and by extension videos] purporting to show the curvature of the Earth are always suspect because virtually all camera lenses
project an image that suffers from barrel distortion

however if thats the case then why do people claim that what people are seeing is the suns spotlight if the edge is not round?


The edge is rounded. Just not in the dimension it would be in RET.

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« Reply #63 on: February 05, 2012, 07:19:11 PM »
i understand that the edge would be rounded however do you agree that high altitude photos only show the lit part of the earth. or are they showing the edge?

also that video was rubbish, try watching others that show a disc shape/curvature better

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« Reply #64 on: February 05, 2012, 07:22:34 PM »
in order to do the experiment on a laymans level you will need.
a spirit level
a measure with a perfectly strait edge, preferably 2/3 meters long
a stand for the measure at 6 feet high
and a camera to document the findings
also 2 objects of reference at a great a distance as possible

you need to set up your equipment so both ends of the measure are seen to be as wide as the 2 objects of reference. simply moving closer to the measure is good enough. it would be best practice to view the measure above the horizon so you can see if it has a curve or not below the measure. if the horizon is above the measure it would be harder to tell.
the only issue with this is the distance horizontally may not be great enough to really have conclusive results. all the same your younger brother will be astonded that the horizon will appear flat.

this experiment can also be found in earth is not a globe


I dont know everything you say. I try to prove to him and i find this site.  He saw site and put it on facebook and make fun of me in spanish.  He call me stupid to my girlfriend to.

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« Reply #65 on: February 05, 2012, 07:25:15 PM »
if you use the pictures and the text provided you can work it out or get a translator. im a bit simple when it comes to english so most of my written work is easy to understand

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« Reply #66 on: February 05, 2012, 07:29:45 PM »
Youtube is a medium, not a source. You'll need to discredit sources individually. For starters, can you discredit the source of " class="bbc_link" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">this video?

Quote from: Dr. David K. Lynch
Photographs [and by extension videos] purporting to show the curvature of the Earth are always suspect because virtually all camera lenses
project an image that suffers from barrel distortion

http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=52792.msg1295859#msg1295859

How embarrassing.
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« Reply #67 on: February 05, 2012, 07:42:13 PM »
no need you tube provides video evidence of planes at 60,000 feet

It also provides video evidence of Naboo Starfighters at 60,000 feet.

Youtube is a medium, not a source. You'll need to discredit sources individually. For starters, can you discredit the source of " class="bbc_link" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">this video?

Quote from: Dr. David K. Lynch
Photographs [and by extension videos] purporting to show the curvature of the Earth are always suspect because virtually all camera lenses
project an image that suffers from barrel distortion

Did you miss the part where Dr. Lynch says that barrel distortion can be minimized by framing the horizon as close to the center of the photo as possible?
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« Reply #68 on: February 05, 2012, 08:12:28 PM »
Raymondo, you may just have to accept the fact that most people believe the Earth to be round, if nothing else. When claiming the Earth is flat, there is a good chance people won't be supportive. It wouldn't be a bad idea to have your brother teach you the evidence, which supports the widely accepted theory of which the Earth is round. I don't mean to say that you should abandon our frame of thought, I only think you should educate yourself better. If you do, I think you would be able to defend yourself better.

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« Reply #69 on: February 05, 2012, 08:20:45 PM »
Raymondo, you may just have to accept the fact that most people believe the Earth to be round, if nothing else. When claiming the Earth is flat, there is a good chance people won't be supportive. It wouldn't be a bad idea to have your brother teach you the evidence, which supports the widely accepted theory of which the Earth is round. I don't mean to say that you should abandon our frame of thought, I only think you should educate yourself better. If you do, I think you would be able to defend yourself better.

Why you think I come to website. I know how to use computer on forum because i use hispanic fprum they are the same but only spanish speaking. i try to educate to find the english words and learn them to write better. My brother shows me picture of round earth from space and call me idiot he dont have evidence.

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« Reply #70 on: February 05, 2012, 08:29:48 PM »
i have given you the tools to prove him wrong. just [paste it into google translator. it will suffice for now

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« Reply #71 on: February 05, 2012, 08:34:51 PM »
i have given you the tools to prove him wrong. just [paste it into google translator. it will suffice for now
bedford level.  Raymondo I would suggest you study this link, it is prominent flat earth literature which is what much of the work here is predicated upon.  It may be a bit confusing at first do to some of the wording but if you take you time your can use the information with those malcontents who are currently calling you names.  If you need any assistance understanding the ideas you can start threads to get others feedback or feel free to PM myself or my good friend and colleague Verrine.

Here is a link to the literature I reference---

http://www.sacred-texts.com/earth/za/index.htm
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« Reply #72 on: February 05, 2012, 08:52:46 PM »
you dont need to do that at the ocean. i have just given him another one of sjr's experiments witha  little more help to make it work. making a bedford experiment isnt actually that easy. the one i proposed should be easier to set up, but i fear the acuracy is not so great. still it should be good to show his brother because if it is done roughly it will show a flat earth. that will blow his little bros mind for sure

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« Reply #73 on: February 05, 2012, 08:59:49 PM »
Problem with the bedford experiment is that it does not "prove" a flat earth.

Perhaps it can support a flat earth.

But it is no more proof that the earth is flat than the fact that the earth appears flat. This is because the results of the bedford experiment can exist in a round earth.

So, if you want to prove to your friend that the earth is flat, the bedford experiment cannot work.


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« Reply #74 on: February 05, 2012, 09:04:25 PM »


But it is no more proof that the earth is flat than the fact that the earth appears flat. This is because the results of the bedford experiment can exist in a round earth.



how can they exist on a round earth if the bedford level experiment is showing zero curvature? over the required distance i may add

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Archibald

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« Reply #75 on: February 05, 2012, 09:18:07 PM »


So, if you want to prove to your friend that the earth is flat, the bedford experiment cannot work.

Incorrect.
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« Reply #76 on: February 05, 2012, 09:24:28 PM »
It's rude of me to post in a thread on a forum I'm a member of? Wow, haven't been told that before! Angry noobs are so fun.



I just proved Naboo is round!

But Naboo is round. . .  No one debates the shape of Naboo.

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Archibald

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« Reply #77 on: February 05, 2012, 09:26:06 PM »
It's rude of me to post in a thread on a forum I'm a member of? Wow, haven't been told that before! Angry noobs are so fun.



I just proved Naboo is round!

But Naboo is round. . .  No one debates the shape of Naboo.

Irrelevant.
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« Reply #78 on: February 05, 2012, 09:30:57 PM »
It's rude of me to post in a thread on a forum I'm a member of? Wow, haven't been told that before! Angry noobs are so fun.



I just proved Naboo is round!

But Naboo is round. . .  No one debates the shape of Naboo.

Irrelevant.

Thanks for summing up my post in one word, interesting for someone as long winded as you.

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Archibald

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« Reply #79 on: February 05, 2012, 09:34:48 PM »
It's rude of me to post in a thread on a forum I'm a member of? Wow, haven't been told that before! Angry noobs are so fun.



I just proved Naboo is round!

But Naboo is round. . .  No one debates the shape of Naboo.

Irrelevant.

Thanks for summing up my post in one word, interesting for someone as long winded as you.

Not a problem dear fellow.
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« Reply #80 on: February 05, 2012, 09:37:44 PM »
your doing that a lot tonight, you have a issue with your phone?

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Archibald

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« Reply #81 on: February 05, 2012, 09:49:33 PM »
your doing that a lot tonight, you have a issue with your phone?

I fixed it.  Yes, this new age smart phone does get difficult for me at times.  Especially nights like tonight while I drink vodka and watch cold war documentaries. 
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« Reply #82 on: February 05, 2012, 09:52:52 PM »
too many cold war documentaries will kill you.... u should take it easy

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Archibald

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« Reply #83 on: February 05, 2012, 09:58:39 PM »
too many cold war documentaries will kill you.... u should take it easy

What else am I supposed to do?  Talk to Verrine on yahoo messenger?  He lives in another country and are schedules of availability often times conflict.  All I can do is read books and watch videos and drink myself to sleep.
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« Reply #84 on: February 05, 2012, 10:00:46 PM »
im just messing with you, personally i just want to go to bed, its been a long night shift. thankfully the forum was active tonight so it keeps me busy when i have nothing to do

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« Reply #85 on: February 05, 2012, 10:13:05 PM »
im just messing with you, personally i just want to go to bed, its been a long night shift. thankfully the forum was active tonight so it keeps me busy when i have nothing to do

Yes it was a good night for the most part. 
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« Reply #86 on: February 05, 2012, 10:36:59 PM »
i have given you the tools to prove him wrong. just [paste it into google translator. it will suffice for now
bedford level.  Raymondo I would suggest you study this link, it is prominent flat earth literature which is what much of the work here is predicated upon.  It may be a bit confusing at first do to some of the wording but if you take you time your can use the information with those malcontents who are currently calling you names.  If you need any assistance understanding the ideas you can start threads to get others feedback or feel free to PM myself or my good friend and colleague Verrine.

Here is a link to the literature I reference---

http://www.sacred-texts.com/earth/za/index.htm
Here's the photographic evidence that R.'s claims about the success of  Bedford Level are wrong:

http://www.pbase.com/exzim/skylines
Keep it serious, Thork. You can troll, but don't be so open. We have standards

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« Reply #87 on: February 05, 2012, 10:56:44 PM »
i have given you the tools to prove him wrong. just [paste it into google translator. it will suffice for now
bedford level.  Raymondo I would suggest you study this link, it is prominent flat earth literature which is what much of the work here is predicated upon.  It may be a bit confusing at first do to some of the wording but if you take you time your can use the information with those malcontents who are currently calling you names.  If you need any assistance understanding the ideas you can start threads to get others feedback or feel free to PM myself or my good friend and colleague Verrine.

Here is a link to the literature I reference---

http://www.sacred-texts.com/earth/za/index.htm
Here's the photographic evidence that R.'s claims about the success of  Bedford Level are wrong:

http://www.pbase.com/exzim/skylines

I viewed nothing that discredits the findings at the old bedford canal.
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« Reply #88 on: February 05, 2012, 10:59:17 PM »
http://www.pbase.com/exzim/image/137501232

this picture does on face value, lets be honest

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Archibald

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« Reply #89 on: February 05, 2012, 11:05:46 PM »
http://www.pbase.com/exzim/image/137501232

this picture does on face value, lets be honest

It might be viewed through a telescope and restored to its appearance as was noted at a closer vantage as happens with ships.
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