Some questions about the FE theory

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Some questions about the FE theory
« on: February 04, 2012, 01:53:44 PM »
Hello. My name is Eduardo, I'm a 13 years-old Brazilian and I'm very interested in geography and religious/scientific debates. This is my first topic, so I'm sorry for any wrong thing here.

Not long ago, I was questioning myself about the aspect of the earth and the universe, and if it is reallycompatible to what I was taught.

I read about modern geocentrism, flat earth, and now I'm here, in the the Flat Earth Society Forums.

I read the FAQ, the wiki, but I am still thinking about some questions surrounding this theory:

- Do you really believe that the sun has a diameter of 32 miles? How this small celestial body would produce days and nights, four distinct seasons and a wide variation of temperature on earth?
- If Antarctica is actually a big block of ice surrounding earth, what about the many scientific bases located near the geographic south pole?
- Is there any photography of the end/edge of the world? Would it be possible to observe space if you are near the edge of the earth?
- How solar and lunar eclipses occur? In the FAQ I read about a supposed celestial body called antimoon, but there is so little information, please tell me more about antimoon.
- Since all other planets and bodies are spherical, why the earth is a different astronomical body compared to the others?
- Do you ignore the existence of the earth's core?
- The amount of evidence of a spherical earth is larger than the amount of evidence of a flat earth. There are many studies and formulas which defend a spherical earth, but very few which defend a flat earth. How do you explain that?
- Do you view flat earth as a truth or a theory?
- Do you believe in aliens?
- Do you believe that the earth is the center of de universe?
- Do you have any religion in particular? Do you believe in God?

Sorry if I wrote too much, but I'm really curious. Thank you advance and I wait your answers.
« Last Edit: January 24, 2013, 06:19:51 PM by EduardoVS-BR »


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Re: Some questions about the FE theory
« Reply #1 on: February 04, 2012, 02:15:01 PM »
Hey Eduardo.

Well you posted in the right place so no problems there.


-  Do you really believe that the sun has 32 miles in diameter? As this small celestial body would produce days and nights, four distinct seasons and a wide variation in temperature on earth? Well there is some discrepancy. Rowbotham says 32miles Voliva says 27 but its documented in several of our texts along with the mathematics of how those numbers are arrived at. See here.
- If Antarctica is actually a big block of ice, what about the many scientific bases located near the magnetic south pole?  they are all based around the edge of earth, as you saw how Antartica was stretch around the world in my last link.
- There is any photography of the end/edge of the world? It would be possible to observe space if you are near the edge of the earth? http://www.swisseduc.ch/glaciers/glossary/ice-cliff-en.html that's a link to a picture of the icewall. The weather and conditions get so unbearable closer to earth's edge that we have no idea what the edge looks like. No one has ever returned from it.
- How they occur the solar and lunar eclipses? In the FAQ I read about a supposed celestial body called antimoon. But there is so little information, tell me more about antimoon. http://www.sacred-texts.com/earth/za/za29.htm a link explaining eclipses.
- Since all other planets and bodies are spherical, why the Earth is an astronomical body different from the others? [colo=red] ince no other planet and body has life on it why is the earth different? I guess the earth is just special.[/color]
- You ignore the existence of the Earth's core? No, its there. It is more like a molten lake beneath us than the centre of a ball however
- The amount of evidence about the spherical Earth is much larger than those on the flat earth. There are many more studies and formulas that defend the spherical Earth, but very few on the flat Earth. How do you explain that? Because the governments who want to keep earth's shape from you have the money to fund the globularist "research".
- You see the Flath Earth as a truth or a theory? that's the shape of the earth ???
- Do you believe in aliens? No, do you believe in fairies?
- Do you believe in Earth as the center of the universe? No the earth is moving all the time (accelerating up). It is the centre of our solar system though.
- Do you have any religion in particular? Do you believe in God? I'm a deist. Most FErs are atheist. God is not an underpinning part of our theory.

Sorry if I wrote too much, but I'm really curious. Thank you in advance and I await answers.

Its likely you will have extra questions in response. Pick one and make the thread about that. Its too complicated to have several subjects in each thread. And welcome to TFES.

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Re: Some questions about the FE theory
« Reply #2 on: February 04, 2012, 02:19:00 PM »

-  Do you really believe that the sun has 32 miles in diameter? As this small celestial body would produce days and nights, four distinct seasons and a wide variation in temperature on earth?
No, they don't. This figure was arrived at completely arbitrarily by a madman using questionable methods. There is no consistent explanation as to what would power the sun if it were that small, the best one is that it's a yellow light bulb on a stand.
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- If Antarctica is actually a big block of ice, what about the many scientific bases located near the magnetic south pole?
Antarctica really screws them. They are divided as to whether they want to pretend it's a big rim round the world, or a seperate continent; they are unable to explain why the south magnetic pole is located where it is, and why the sun does not set there in the summer.
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- There is any photography of the end/edge of the world? It would be possible to observe space if you are near the edge of the earth?
Of course not, how can they photograph something something that doesn't exist?
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- How they occur the solar and lunar eclipses? In the FAQ I read about a supposed celestial body called antimoon. But there is so little information, tell me more about antimoon.
There is no information about the antimoon, it's a special pleading fallacy and there is no explanation of where it is when it's not in front of the sun or why it just so neatly happens to coincide with where the earth or moon's shadow would be in RET.
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- Since all other planets and bodies are spherical, why the Earth is an astronomical body different from the others?
Their excuse is "earth is not a planet, so it's different".
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- You ignore the existence of the Earth's core?
Yes.
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- The amount of evidence about the spherical Earth is much larger than those on the flat earth. There are many more studies and formulas that defend the spherical Earth, but very few on the flat Earth. How do you explain that?
By a combination of made up laws of physics, ignored real laws of physics, picking and choosing of evidence, blatant denial, lies and not addressing topics that blow massive holes in their arguments.
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- You see the Flath Earth as a truth or a theory?
Neither. None of them really believe it. They pretend to, for a joke, so they can laugh at people who think they mean it. They are trolls.

Watermelon, Rhubarb Rhubarb, no one believes the Earth is Flat, Peas and Carrots,  walla.

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Re: Some questions about the FE theory
« Reply #3 on: February 04, 2012, 02:20:17 PM »
Thank you troll. ::)

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Re: Some questions about the FE theory
« Reply #4 on: February 04, 2012, 02:21:59 PM »
Thank you troll. ::)

Which of us posted a thread claiming the Queen is a big lizard in disguise? Oh that's right, it was you.
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Re: Some questions about the FE theory
« Reply #5 on: February 04, 2012, 02:23:47 PM »
I also made a thread claiming we should eat the poor and one that Australians are the undead. Do you have a point?

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Re: Some questions about the FE theory
« Reply #6 on: February 04, 2012, 02:26:54 PM »
The weather and conditions get so unbearable closer to earth's edge that we have no idea what the edge looks like. No one has ever returned from it.

Where, precisely, is the point of no return (or more correctly, the perimeter of no return)?


governments who want to keep earth's shape from you

Since when are they working to keep the earth's shape from us?  Why do they care if we know?  Why didn't they just make fake pictures of a disc instead?
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[Lord Wilmore's writings] are written the way a high schooler thinks an educated person should sound like.  The pathetic pseudo-academic writing can't hide the lack of any real substance.

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Re: Some questions about the FE theory
« Reply #7 on: February 04, 2012, 02:29:47 PM »
I also made a thread claiming we should eat the poor and one that Australians are the undead. Do you have a point?

Yes, that you calling me a troll is hypocritical beyond belief.
And now also I shall make the point that if you can't work that out, you're very stupid.
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Re: Some questions about the FE theory
« Reply #8 on: February 04, 2012, 02:34:12 PM »
The weather and conditions get so unbearable closer to earth's edge that we have no idea what the edge looks like. No one has ever returned from it.

Where, precisely, is the point of no return (or more correctly, the perimeter of no return)?
I don't know. How many fish in the sea? Just because I don't have a number for everything doesn't make it false. Either tell me how many fish there are exactly or concede there is no such thing as fish or drop the question. You can choose.

Since when are they working to keep the earth's shape from us?  Why do they care if we know?  Why didn't they just make fake pictures of a disc instead?
Earth is a disc. Keeping earth's shape a secret is about having knowledge you don't have. Knowledge is power, power is money etc etc.

Yes, that you calling me a troll is hypocritical beyond belief.
you are trying to derail the thread by ranting on about trolls again.
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One who posts a deliberately provocative message to a newsgroup or message board with the intention of causing maximum disruption and argument
Now be gone, wretched bridge dweller. >:(

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Re: Some questions about the FE theory
« Reply #9 on: February 04, 2012, 03:01:06 PM »
The weather and conditions get so unbearable closer to earth's edge that we have no idea what the edge looks like. No one has ever returned from it.

Where, precisely, is the point of no return (or more correctly, the perimeter of no return)?
I don't know. How many fish in the sea? Just because I don't have a number for everything doesn't make it false. Either tell me how many fish there are exactly or concede there is no such thing as fish or drop the question. You can choose.

What an awful comparison. If you claimed there were no fish in the sea, I would only need to show you one fish to disprove it, not all. The required specificity of your evidence depends on the specificity of the claim. You claim that no one has returned from the edge, implying that people have tried (if they haven't, why use the word return?). So where were they going from which they never returned? What is the threshold? What is the farthest point from which one is able to return?


Since when are they working to keep the earth's shape from us?  Why do they care if we know?  Why didn't they just make fake pictures of a disc instead?
Earth is a disc. Keeping earth's shape a secret is about having knowledge you don't have. Knowledge is power, power is money etc etc.

Terrible. Just terrible.
« Last Edit: February 04, 2012, 03:04:02 PM by zarg »
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[Lord Wilmore's writings] are written the way a high schooler thinks an educated person should sound like.  The pathetic pseudo-academic writing can't hide the lack of any real substance.

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Re: Some questions about the FE theory
« Reply #10 on: February 04, 2012, 03:07:04 PM »
That's kind of annoying. He never made a second post.

"The Knowledge" can keep discouraging new people from finding out about the site, but in the end there will only be him and I left. When that happens I'll leave him on his own because he just isn't that interesting.

No one comes to FES to talk to people about the earth being round. Almost all of those people in RM started in the upper fora.

If its your thread, get involved. If its about a new subject, get involved. If its the same crap you have seen a hundred times, why bother trying to sh*t all over the thread?

Finish it by yourselves.
« Last Edit: February 04, 2012, 03:09:16 PM by Thork »

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Re: Some questions about the FE theory
« Reply #11 on: February 04, 2012, 03:18:56 PM »
That's kind of annoying. He never made a second post.

It's been less than two hours since this thread was posted. Think you could be a little more patient?

What's with the Times New Roman?
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[Lord Wilmore's writings] are written the way a high schooler thinks an educated person should sound like.  The pathetic pseudo-academic writing can't hide the lack of any real substance.

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Re: Some questions about the FE theory
« Reply #12 on: February 04, 2012, 03:55:00 PM »
I'm used to online discussions, then that disharmony do not surprise me.

I'm not sure about the shape of the earth, so I respect both theories (RET and FET), and I hope healthy discussions on this subject.

I also believe that people should be open to new ideas in their discussions, instead of trying to prove their point of view desperately.
« Last Edit: January 24, 2013, 06:22:36 PM by EduardoVS-BR »


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Re: Some questions about the FE theory
« Reply #13 on: February 04, 2012, 04:19:51 PM »

"The Knowledge" can keep discouraging new people from finding out about the site

Thanks for the support, Brother.
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Re: Some questions about the FE theory
« Reply #14 on: February 05, 2012, 05:59:35 AM »
First thing first, one flaw about this site is that even though you try to argue against specific evidence that the earth is round by saying our facts are false, you have yet provided evidence to support your "Flat earth" THEORY. If someone actually proved that the earth was truly flat they would most likely earn loads of money for discovering this "fact". Would that not be enough motivation to fly to this alleged "Edge" of the world and fully prove this theory with non arguable evidence?

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Re: Some questions about the FE theory
« Reply #15 on: February 05, 2012, 06:02:45 AM »
Once you are make it clear you know the earth is flat, you are ridiculed and made out to be insane. NASA prefer smear to smash.

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Re: Some questions about the FE theory
« Reply #16 on: February 05, 2012, 07:05:07 AM »
Once you are make it clear you know the earth is flat, you are ridiculed and made out to be insane.

Quite right too.
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Re: Some questions about the FE theory
« Reply #17 on: February 17, 2012, 07:53:55 PM »
Once you are make it clear you know the earth is flat, you are ridiculed and made out to be insane. NASA prefer smear to smash.

You cant be disputed with solid evidence. Either prove it or just theorize all day. What is honestly so hard about taking a camera with you and traveling to the edge of this alleged "Flat earth"

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Re: Some questions about the FE theory
« Reply #18 on: February 21, 2012, 11:22:41 AM »
Hey Eduardo.

Well you posted in the right place so no problems there.


-  Do you really believe that the sun has 32 miles in diameter? As this small celestial body would produce days and nights, four distinct seasons and a wide variation in temperature on earth? Well there is some discrepancy. Rowbotham says 32miles Voliva says 27 but its documented in several of our texts along with the mathematics of how those numbers are arrived at. See here.
- If Antarctica is actually a big block of ice, what about the many scientific bases located near the magnetic south pole?  they are all based around the edge of earth, as you saw how Antartica was stretch around the world in my last link.
- There is any photography of the end/edge of the world? It would be possible to observe space if you are near the edge of the earth? http://www.swisseduc.ch/glaciers/glossary/ice-cliff-en.html that's a link to a picture of the icewall. The weather and conditions get so unbearable closer to earth's edge that we have no idea what the edge looks like. No one has ever returned from it.
- How they occur the solar and lunar eclipses? In the FAQ I read about a supposed celestial body called antimoon. But there is so little information, tell me more about antimoon. http://www.sacred-texts.com/earth/za/za29.htm a link explaining eclipses.
- Since all other planets and bodies are spherical, why the Earth is an astronomical body different from the others? [colo=red] ince no other planet and body has life on it why is the earth different? I guess the earth is just special.[/color]
- You ignore the existence of the Earth's core? No, its there. It is more like a molten lake beneath us than the centre of a ball however
- The amount of evidence about the spherical Earth is much larger than those on the flat earth. There are many more studies and formulas that defend the spherical Earth, but very few on the flat Earth. How do you explain that? Because the governments who want to keep earth's shape from you have the money to fund the globularist "research".
- You see the Flath Earth as a truth or a theory? that's the shape of the earth ???
- Do you believe in aliens? No, do you believe in fairies?
- Do you believe in Earth as the center of the universe? No the earth is moving all the time (accelerating up). It is the centre of our solar system though.
- Do you have any religion in particular? Do you believe in God? I'm a deist. Most FErs are atheist. God is not an underpinning part of our theory.

Sorry if I wrote too much, but I'm really curious. Thank you in advance and I await answers.

Its likely you will have extra questions in response. Pick one and make the thread about that. Its too complicated to have several subjects in each thread. And welcome to TFES.

Thanks for the reply to my lunar eclipse point. but not once on the page does it explain what lunar eclipses are in the flat earth theory.

where do eclipses fall into place in your theory?

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Re: Some questions about the FE theory
« Reply #19 on: February 21, 2012, 11:28:06 AM »
Thanks for the reply to my lunar eclipse point. but not once on the page does it explain what lunar eclipses are in the flat earth theory.
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