Distances cannot be reconciled.

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Distances cannot be reconciled.
« on: December 05, 2011, 04:33:36 PM »
The "ultimate challenge" for FE is that the map is ludicrous.  People have constantly been asking, "FE, provide a map that keeps measured distances true."

They forget, of course, that this is impossible.  This is the shape of Africa, as we have measured between cities and edges:



I think we can change this to a concave shape, but those are the only two things I can think of without resorting to something completely convoluted.  It is impossible to make this flat and keep distances true.

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Re: Distances cannot be reconciled.
« Reply #1 on: December 05, 2011, 05:46:20 PM »
How hard is it to understand that the distances are wrong in RET?

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Re: Distances cannot be reconciled.
« Reply #2 on: December 05, 2011, 05:54:58 PM »
How hard is it to understand that the distances are wrong in RET?

The distances on my GPS are pretty darn accurate?  And my globe seems pretty accurate.

Re: Distances cannot be reconciled.
« Reply #3 on: December 05, 2011, 06:04:55 PM »
How hard is it to understand that the distances are wrong in RET?

Lol, obviously they're good enough for people traveling around the world and such.
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Re: Distances cannot be reconciled.
« Reply #4 on: December 05, 2011, 06:54:48 PM »
How hard is it to understand that the distances are wrong in RET?

Ask a professional navigator or cartographer.
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Re: Distances cannot be reconciled.
« Reply #5 on: December 06, 2011, 06:12:49 AM »
How hard is it to understand that the distances are wrong in RET?

How hard is it to understand that distances are wrong in FET?
The FAQ needs updating to reflect the falsehood of the FAQ.

Re: Distances cannot be reconciled.
« Reply #6 on: December 07, 2011, 01:12:55 PM »
How hard is it to understand that the distances are wrong in RET?

Prove them wrong, then!
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Re: Distances cannot be reconciled.
« Reply #7 on: December 07, 2011, 03:00:11 PM »
How hard is it to understand that the distances are wrong in RET?
Pretty hard, seeing as no one has ever claimed that before.  Just something vague about not using Euclidean geometry.

Anyway...does anyone like this map?


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Re: Distances cannot be reconciled.
« Reply #8 on: December 07, 2011, 07:02:39 PM »
How hard is it to understand that the distances are wrong in RET?
Pretty hard, seeing as no one has ever claimed that before.  Just something vague about not using Euclidean geometry.

Anyway...does anyone like this map?



Looks purrty good teh me!

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Re: Distances cannot be reconciled.
« Reply #9 on: December 08, 2011, 09:00:17 AM »
How hard is it to understand that the distances are wrong in RET?
Pretty hard, seeing as no one has ever claimed that before.  Just something vague about not using Euclidean geometry.

Anyway...does anyone like this map?



The south-centric map has been pitched before. FE'ers objected to it on the grounds that a north-centric map was more "traditional" IIRC.
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Re: Distances cannot be reconciled.
« Reply #10 on: December 08, 2011, 09:23:44 AM »
this map makes more sense as Antarctica has been fully mapped and contains no "edge"
but also Master Willmores map works as well.

Re: Distances cannot be reconciled.
« Reply #11 on: December 08, 2011, 09:59:30 AM »
this map makes more sense as Antarctica has been fully mapped and contains no "edge"
but also Master Willmores map works as well.

I don't see how flat earth believers can even navigate to the 7/11 with no working maps and useless GPS systems.
The FAQ needs updating to reflect the falsehood of the FAQ.

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Re: Distances cannot be reconciled.
« Reply #12 on: December 08, 2011, 11:53:16 AM »
this map makes more sense as Antarctica has been fully mapped and contains no "edge"
but also Master Willmores map works as well.

I can guarantee you Willmore's map does not work as well as a globe.

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Re: Distances cannot be reconciled.
« Reply #13 on: December 08, 2011, 12:02:10 PM »
How hard is it to understand that the distances are wrong in RET?
Pretty hard, seeing as no one has ever claimed that before.  Just something vague about not using Euclidean geometry.

Anyway...does anyone like this map?



The south-centric map has been pitched before. FE'ers objected to it on the grounds that a north-centric map was more "traditional" IIRC. makes the countries where they live look weird.

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Re: Distances cannot be reconciled.
« Reply #14 on: December 08, 2011, 01:05:45 PM »
this map makes more sense as Antarctica has been fully mapped and contains no "edge"
but also Master Willmores map works as well.

Master Lord Willmore's map suffers from the problem of being unable to explain the movement of the sun and why nobody can travel due west from California. It's even more wrong than any of the others.
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