Disproof of Bendy Light

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El Cid

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Disproof of Bendy Light
« on: December 02, 2011, 09:00:15 PM »
Last one was somewhat complicated and easy to dismiss, so I've developed a more straightforward proof that I've realized.

Bendy light requires that what we perceive as a right angle is not quite a right angle.

The observer thinks the right angle is really not a right angle - but it is.

Therefore, all the angles we have ever seen are wrong.

Needless to say, a building like the Burj Khalifa would never stand.  In fact, I can't imagine much of any building that would stand, even a simple lean-to, if the lean is completely off.  For any modern building, I'd say we'd have to be exactly right, or it would fall.

Therefore, we are exactly right, and light doesn't bend to make us wrong (otherwise all the buildings would collapse).

Therefore, bendy light is impossible.

Q.E.D.
« Last Edit: December 02, 2011, 10:08:21 PM by El Cid »

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Re: Disproof of Bendy Light
« Reply #1 on: December 03, 2011, 02:38:08 AM »
Last one was somewhat complicated and easy to dismiss

Nobody has been able to dismiss it. The two people who really had a go both dissolved into (a) pretending not to understand what the simple disproof meant, and (b) posting misleading mathematical examples that were in fact false, but which they hoped would remain unchallenged due to their complexity, then pretended they didn't understand my rebuttals.
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Re: Disproof of Bendy Light
« Reply #2 on: December 03, 2011, 04:14:41 PM »
Last one was somewhat complicated and easy to dismiss

Nobody has been able to dismiss it. The two people who really had a go both dissolved into (a) pretending not to understand what the simple disproof meant, and (b) posting misleading mathematical examples that were in fact false, but which they hoped would remain unchallenged due to their complexity, then pretended they didn't understand my rebuttals.
I know, I meant it was easy to deny without proof.

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Re: Disproof of Bendy Light
« Reply #3 on: December 04, 2011, 12:51:28 AM »

Light bends upwards and upwards only. You've put some random directions there which I can't determine since you forgot to describe your axes, but it doesn't look like upwards in any way.

Furthermore, the bending of light does not affect the perception of angles in any way.

Yet another example of RE'ers disproving their own version of FET. Bravo.
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Re: Disproof of Bendy Light
« Reply #4 on: December 04, 2011, 03:35:33 AM »

Yet another example of RE'ers disproving their own version of FET. Bravo.

Really, what was the other example?
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Re: Disproof of Bendy Light
« Reply #5 on: December 04, 2011, 11:27:21 AM »
Yet another example of RE'ers disproving their own version of FET. Bravo.

Yeah, a lot of versions of FE, only one of RE. Could it mean something?
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Re: Disproof of Bendy Light
« Reply #6 on: December 04, 2011, 11:39:35 AM »
Bendy light only bends a little bit so the bend cannot be observed.

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EmperorZhark

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Re: Disproof of Bendy Light
« Reply #7 on: December 04, 2011, 11:41:03 AM »
Bendy light only bends a little bit so the bend cannot be observed.

When a we going to have a scientific theory behind this?
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Re: Disproof of Bendy Light
« Reply #8 on: December 04, 2011, 11:45:35 AM »
Ask Brother Parsifal. He has been hard at work producing one for almost a decade.

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Re: Disproof of Bendy Light
« Reply #9 on: December 04, 2011, 11:49:19 AM »
Why doesn't he put it in the FAQ or the Wiki?
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Re: Disproof of Bendy Light
« Reply #10 on: December 04, 2011, 11:52:05 AM »
He has no control over the FAQ of the Wiki because he is not a mod or an admin.

You should petition a mod or admin to include his fine work in the FAQ or Wiki.

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Re: Disproof of Bendy Light
« Reply #11 on: December 04, 2011, 11:55:44 AM »

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Re: Disproof of Bendy Light
« Reply #12 on: December 04, 2011, 12:10:09 PM »
He has no control over the FAQ of the Wiki because he is not a mod or an admin.

You should petition a mod or admin to include his fine work in the FAQ or Wiki.

You don't need to be a mod or admin to work on the wiki.  You only need to apply to John Davis for editorial access to the wiki.  If brother Parsifal does not have access to contribute to the wiki then he only has himself to blame.
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Re: Disproof of Bendy Light
« Reply #13 on: December 04, 2011, 12:15:59 PM »
If brother Parsifal does not have access to contribute to the wiki then he only has himself John Davis to blame.

Fixed. Our Brothers work should be made available for all to view without the need to go through a gatekeeper.

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Re: Disproof of Bendy Light
« Reply #14 on: December 04, 2011, 12:26:23 PM »
If brother Parsifal does not have access to contribute to the wiki then he only has himself John Davis to blame.

Fixed. Our Brothers work should be made available for all to view without the need to go through a gatekeeper.

The wiki is free to view.  However, you need permission to edit the wiki.  This is as it should be in order to keep the filthy RE'ers from defacing the wiki.
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Re: Disproof of Bendy Light
« Reply #15 on: December 04, 2011, 12:42:07 PM »
The wiki is free to view.  However, you need permission to edit the wiki.  This is as it should be in order to keep the filthy RE'ers from defacing the wiki.

Bendy light is not a flithy RE theory. There is no reason why Brother Parsifal should not be able to edit the wiki.

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Re: Disproof of Bendy Light
« Reply #16 on: December 04, 2011, 02:52:59 PM »
You don't need to be a mod or admin to work on the wiki.  You only need to apply to John Davis for editorial access to the wiki.  If brother Parsifal does not have access to contribute to the wiki then he only has himself to blame.
The wiki is free to view.  However, you need permission to edit the wiki.  This is as it should be in order to keep the filthy RE'ers from defacing the wiki.
Minor corrections: You need to apply to me for editorial access to the Wiki. While John does have full privileges to grant such access, he generally doesn't maintain it. He's just a kind host.
Also, RE'ers are absolutely welcome to apply so long as they manage to keep in mind that the FE Wiki is, in fact, a FE Wiki. We've had examples of RE'ers who handled that, and ones who did not.
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Re: Disproof of Bendy Light
« Reply #17 on: December 04, 2011, 06:40:48 PM »
The wiki is free to view.  However, you need permission to edit the wiki.  This is as it should be in order to keep the filthy RE'ers from defacing the wiki.

Bendy light is not a flithy RE theory.

I didn't say that it was.  Perhaps you should read my posts a little more carefully.

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There is no reason why Brother Parsifal should not be able to edit the wiki.

The only reason that Parsifal is not able to edit the wiki is (to the best of my knowledge) because he has not yet chosen to request permission.
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Re: Disproof of Bendy Light
« Reply #18 on: December 05, 2011, 01:43:36 PM »

See my point?  Oh, and light doesn't affect our perceptions of angles?  Remember, we only see things with light.  We need light to perceive.

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Re: Disproof of Bendy Light
« Reply #19 on: December 09, 2011, 06:06:02 PM »
I think what they're going for is that while the light itself bends, the image bends with it so that anything we see would look the same as if light didn't bend. Pretty convenient hypothesis no?

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Re: Disproof of Bendy Light
« Reply #20 on: December 09, 2011, 07:49:59 PM »
The image bends with it?  What do you mean by that?  Light produces the image to begin with.

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Re: Disproof of Bendy Light
« Reply #21 on: December 11, 2011, 05:28:30 AM »
Light produces the image to begin with.
Which is exactly why the image bends. Where's the confusion?
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Re: Disproof of Bendy Light
« Reply #22 on: December 11, 2011, 05:58:48 AM »

Yet another example of RE'ers disproving their own version of FET. Bravo.

Really, what was the other example?

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Re: Disproof of Bendy Light
« Reply #23 on: December 11, 2011, 06:18:11 PM »
Light produces the image to begin with.
Which is exactly why the image bends. Where's the confusion?
Never forget this.  You claim that the image bends.  This explains the fact that the Earth appears round, but we encounter another problem, which is what this thread is about:  the image of angles would bend.  This renders huge structures based on carefully designed architecture and mathematics to completely collapse.  In fact, if it bends as much as it would need to to balance out the view, probably a simple lean-to would be collapse immediately.  This does not happen.  Therefore, bendy light is untrue.

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Re: Disproof of Bendy Light
« Reply #24 on: December 16, 2011, 04:59:08 PM »
Bendy light requires that what we perceive as a right angle is not quite a right angle.

This claim requires justification.
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Re: Disproof of Bendy Light
« Reply #25 on: December 17, 2011, 12:36:28 PM »
Light produces the image to begin with.
Which is exactly why the image bends. Where's the confusion?

Guess what?

Light bends upwards and upwards only.

Bang. Shot yourself in the foot.

If you claim that light only distorts images in a certain direction, you can't claim that the image is uniformly distorted such that it won't appear distorted after all.
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