Neutral and Objective Evidence Supporting Flat Earth

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Re: Neutral and Objective Evidence Supporting Flat Earth
« Reply #60 on: November 20, 2011, 06:47:00 PM »
PlanetPizzaz toys with what I say when he quote me, I'm doing the same.
I haven't toyed with it at all. You said that space flight is a simple thing, by a simple person. I can quote your whole post and just embolden the relevant bit if you'd rather have me do that than just quote the relevant part.

Also,
You place on the same level the invention of a simple thing, by a simple person, more than a century ago and a major conspiration, the biggest ever, involving governments, governments agencies, scientists, many countries.

How unscientific (and pointless and uninteresting).
Sure was a lot of space flight going on more than a century ago.
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Re: Neutral and Objective Evidence Supporting Flat Earth
« Reply #61 on: November 20, 2011, 08:45:22 PM »
PlanetPizzaz toys with what I say when he quote me, I'm doing the same.

Please don't. 
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Re: Neutral and Objective Evidence Supporting Flat Earth
« Reply #62 on: November 21, 2011, 12:24:16 AM »
PlanetPizzaz toys with what I say when he quote me, I'm doing the same.
I haven't toyed with it at all. You said that space flight is a simple thing, by a simple person. I can quote your whole post and just embolden the relevant bit if you'd rather have me do that than just quote the relevant part.

Also,
You place on the same level the invention of a simple thing, by a simple person, more than a century ago and a major conspiration, the biggest ever, involving governments, governments agencies, scientists, many countries.

How unscientific (and pointless and uninteresting).
Sure was a lot of space flight going on more than a century ago.

Clearly you don't understand what I say. I never said that space flight was as simple thing etc.

And I never implied that space flight was done more than a century ago.

My point was about a huge conspiration which doesn't exist. No proofs, no evidence, not even a hint.

I see your point: you need a conspiratio to exist in order for the Earth to be flat. But there's no conspiracy, so there's no FE.
“The Earth looks flat, therefore it is” FEers wisdom.

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Re: Neutral and Objective Evidence Supporting Flat Earth
« Reply #63 on: November 21, 2011, 12:39:34 AM »
My point was about a huge conspiration which doesn't exist.
Then what is the "simple thing, by a simple person, more than a century ago" that I am comparing the conspiracy (or "conspiration") to?

I see your point: you need a conspiratio to exist in order for the Earth to be flat.
In fact, I've made it clear many times before that I'm not a conspiracy theorist.

But there's no conspiracy, so there's no FE.
Incorrect.
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Re: Neutral and Objective Evidence Supporting Flat Earth
« Reply #64 on: November 21, 2011, 01:26:32 AM »
My point was about a huge conspiration which doesn't exist.
Then what is the "simple thing, by a simple person, more than a century ago" that I am comparing the conspiracy (or "conspiration") to?

I see your point: you need a conspiratio to exist in order for the Earth to be flat.
In fact, I've made it clear many times before that I'm not a conspiracy theorist.

But there's no conspiracy, so there's no FE.
Incorrect.

1. Read previous post before answering hastily.
2. Point taken
3. If there's no conspiracy, space flight is possible and has been done, giving us thousand of proofs that RE exist.
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Re: Neutral and Objective Evidence Supporting Flat Earth
« Reply #65 on: November 21, 2011, 12:26:36 PM »
1. Read previous post before answering hastily.
Unrelated.
Okay, I've read it. Now what?

3. If there's no conspiracy, space flight is possible and has been done, giving us thousand of proofs that RE exist.
What proofs?
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Re: Neutral and Objective Evidence Supporting Flat Earth
« Reply #66 on: November 21, 2011, 01:01:02 PM »
What proofs!?

Since there's no conspiracy, a shitload.
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Re: Neutral and Objective Evidence Supporting Flat Earth
« Reply #67 on: November 21, 2011, 01:01:59 PM »
What proofs!?

Since there's no conspiracy, a shitload.
Can I see eight?
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Re: Neutral and Objective Evidence Supporting Flat Earth
« Reply #68 on: November 21, 2011, 01:05:06 PM »
Do your homework, lazy man!
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Re: Neutral and Objective Evidence Supporting Flat Earth
« Reply #69 on: November 21, 2011, 01:44:26 PM »
So you have nothing to show to me? How intriguing.
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Re: Neutral and Objective Evidence Supporting Flat Earth
« Reply #70 on: November 21, 2011, 03:21:30 PM »
www.google.com

Work it yourself, you lazy man.
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Re: Neutral and Objective Evidence Supporting Flat Earth
« Reply #71 on: November 22, 2011, 06:28:26 AM »
What proofs!?

Since there's no conspiracy, a shitload.
Just because you don't perceive the conspiracy does not mean that it is not there. If the conspiracy was common knowledge, it would not be much of a conspiracy. Would it?
 You not believing in the conspiracy puts you just where the conspiracy wants you. In the dark.
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Re: Neutral and Objective Evidence Supporting Flat Earth
« Reply #72 on: November 22, 2011, 07:54:46 AM »
I don't believe in the conspiracy for very simple reasons:

Too many people, too many governments, agencies, firms. Too many years. Too much money.

No leaks, not even the beginning of a hint.

Welcome to the real life (so different from a Hollywood blosckbuster)!
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Re: Neutral and Objective Evidence Supporting Flat Earth
« Reply #73 on: November 22, 2011, 08:19:26 AM »
Work it yourself, you lazy man.
So many insults, so little science.
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Re: Neutral and Objective Evidence Supporting Flat Earth
« Reply #74 on: November 22, 2011, 08:21:21 AM »
Lazy, an insult?

For proofs os space flight, do start with google. Or books. Or TV.
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Re: Neutral and Objective Evidence Supporting Flat Earth
« Reply #75 on: November 23, 2011, 10:27:40 PM »
I don't believe in the conspiracy for very simple reasons:

Too many people, too many governments, agencies, firms. Too many years. Too much money.

No leaks, not even the beginning of a hint.

Welcome to the real life (so different from a Hollywood blosckbuster)!

You make so many assertions, with so little support; I'd like to see some objective data supporting your claims.
I don't remember anything. Well, I do, but it's really vague. Like I was on drugs the whole time.

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Re: Neutral and Objective Evidence Supporting Flat Earth
« Reply #76 on: November 24, 2011, 12:19:14 AM »
Lazy, an insult?
Welcome to the English language.

For proofs os space flight, do start with google. Or books. Or TV.
So little proof, so little science.

Also, ITT: Zhark admits that if it's on TV, it's true.
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Re: Neutral and Objective Evidence Supporting Flat Earth
« Reply #77 on: November 24, 2011, 06:11:11 PM »
Lazy, an insult?
Welcome to the English language.

For proofs os space flight, do start with google. Or books. Or TV.
So little proof, so little science.

Also, ITT: Zhark admits that if it's on TV, it's true.

its all good claiming he doesnt have proof, but ive yet so see such good evidence from anybody who subscribes to FET.
there is not a conspiracy like some may believe, thats a fact. so what are all the images and personal accounts? you cant dismiss a conspriacy and claim the world is flat. the conspiracy was invented to support FET

Re: Neutral and Objective Evidence Supporting Flat Earth
« Reply #78 on: November 25, 2011, 12:54:58 PM »
 Wow... So, to put it in perspective, all the FEers claim scientific data to be collected from an admittedly imperfect, cheap camera, yet try to discredit technologies that cost billions of dollars to build, are perfect down to a grain, and are still collecting information from space. Even technologies that have been proven to exist.

 As the internet would say, sounds legit.

Re: Neutral and Objective Evidence Supporting Flat Earth
« Reply #79 on: November 25, 2011, 12:59:24 PM »
They take things that prove Earth is a sphere like NASA images and satellites and just counter it with "Nah that's all fake. It's a conspiracy." You could argue literally anything if you decide to dismiss any evidence that goes against your belief as fake and part of a conspiracy.
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Re: Neutral and Objective Evidence Supporting Flat Earth
« Reply #80 on: November 25, 2011, 01:19:41 PM »
Here's eight;

Hubble space telescope: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hubble_Space_Telescope
http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/hubble/main/index.html
http://www.stsci.edu/hst/

Pictures by said Hubble space telescope: http://hubblesite.org/gallery/
http://images.nationalgeographic.com/wpf/media-live/photos/000/009/cache/hubble-space-telescope_999_600x450.jpg

Rockets, namely the Taurus, SpaceshipOne, and Falcon series:
http://images.nationalgeographic.com/wpf/media-live/photos/000/009/cache/hubble-space-telescope_999_600x450.jpg
http://www.virgingalactic.com/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taurus_%28rocket%29
http://www.orbital.com/spacelaunch/taurus/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falcon_9
http://www.spacex.com/falcon9.php

Pictures of NASA's "never seen" technology:
It's newest rocket, made by SpaceX. http://www.spacex.com/falcon9.php
Martian Land Rover. http://static.howstuffworks.com/gif/mars-rover-3.jpg
Moon landing photos. http://history.nasa.gov/ap11ann/kippsphotos/apollo.html , http://history.nasa.gov/ap11ann/kippsphotos/5875.jpg , http://history.nasa.gov/ap11ann/kippsphotos/5902.jpg , http://images.nationalgeographic.com/wpf/media-live/photos/000/100/cache/moon-hoax-reflections_10060_600x450.jpg

And, finally, four pictures of space flight.
Taking off. http://blogs.physicstoday.org/newspicks//ares1x_launch.jpg
In flight. http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3371/3241991123_ac74e95d08.jpg , http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2683/4113088745_8ef52430a3.jpg
In orbit. http://www.qrg.northwestern.edu/projects/vss/docs/media/Navigation/deployment.gif , http://www.sciencelearn.org.nz/var/sciencelearn/storage/images/contexts/space-revealed/sci-media/images/space-shuttle-and-earth/106889-1-eng-NZ/Space-Shuttle-and-Earth_full_size_landscape.jpg , http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/06_01/spacestation_468x310.jpg
Landing. http://www.zimbio.com/pictures/C41lH2JfwYU/Space+Shuttle+Endeavour+Returns+KSC+Atop+Modified/Co4mh39wfQ2 , http://www.enterprisemission.com/shuttle_landing.jpg , http://abcnews.go.com/images/Technology/abc_shuttle_discovery_ll_110309_main.jpg.

 That work? Or will you simply write it off as being constructed by the "conspiracy"?

Re: Neutral and Objective Evidence Supporting Flat Earth
« Reply #81 on: November 25, 2011, 01:25:54 PM »
 Well, in all fairness, that's more than eight. But still, you get my point.

Re: Neutral and Objective Evidence Supporting Flat Earth
« Reply #82 on: November 25, 2011, 01:36:00 PM »
No, they won't. They'll write off all of those. "Oh, you got it from that website? That's cute, a typical RE'er would think that's a reliable source." "Well of course that organization would want you to believe in a Round Earth. Of course they'd post a doctored image like that."

They're so adamant to cling to their non-conformity and feel smarter than the mass of sheep around them that when they see evidence like that they'll just write it off as being a part of this massive Conspiracy. Never mind the lack of proof or reasoning as to why and how every single one of those organizations would and could be a part of the Conspiracy; they threaten the non-conformist beliefs of the FE'ers, so clearly they're just lying. The sad thing is that they probably aren't even just using "Lol those are from the Conspiracy you sheep" as a cop-out. They legitimately are so desperate to stick with their belief that they've convinced themselves that all contradictory evidence must be part of a Conspiracy against them. Doing this allows them to write off literally any proof you ever present them with because if it gets to be too tangible of evidence against them, they just assume "Well, part of the Conspiracy. Nyah nyah nyah, now your evidence is refuted. We win." It's actually pretty sad.

Sometimes the reason why everybody believes in an accepted theory is because it's just right. Everybody likes to feel like they know or have access to some great undiscovered truth, like they know more about one given topic than the common man, like they're smarter and therefore more superior. That's why conspiracy theories exist. Because people like to think that they're smarter than the masses, even though sometimes the masses are just plain right.
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Re: Neutral and Objective Evidence Supporting Flat Earth
« Reply #83 on: November 25, 2011, 01:52:12 PM »
No, they won't. They'll write off all of those. "Oh, you got it from that website? That's cute, a typical RE'er would think that's a reliable source." "Well of course that organization would want you to believe in a Round Earth. Of course they'd post a doctored image like that."

They're so adamant to cling to their non-conformity and feel smarter than the mass of sheep around them that when they see evidence like that they'll just write it off as being a part of this massive Conspiracy. Never mind the lack of proof or reasoning as to why and how every single one of those organizations would and could be a part of the Conspiracy; they threaten the non-conformist beliefs of the FE'ers, so clearly they're just lying. The sad thing is that they probably aren't even just using "Lol those are from the Conspiracy you sheep" as a cop-out. They legitimately are so desperate to stick with their belief that they've convinced themselves that all contradictory evidence must be part of a Conspiracy against them. Doing this allows them to write off literally any proof you ever present them with because if it gets to be too tangible of evidence against them, they just assume "Well, part of the Conspiracy. Nyah nyah nyah, now your evidence is refuted. We win." It's actually pretty sad.

Sometimes the reason why everybody believes in an accepted theory is because it's just right. Everybody likes to feel like they know or have access to some great undiscovered truth, like they know more about one given topic than the common man, like they're smarter and therefore more superior. That's why conspiracy theories exist. Because people like to think that they're smarter than the masses, even though sometimes the masses are just plain right.

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Re: Neutral and Objective Evidence Supporting Flat Earth
« Reply #84 on: November 25, 2011, 02:00:24 PM »
 No reply to me?

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Re: Neutral and Objective Evidence Supporting Flat Earth
« Reply #85 on: November 25, 2011, 02:55:18 PM »
No reply to me?

You answered your own question. Conspiracy.

Re: Neutral and Objective Evidence Supporting Flat Earth
« Reply #86 on: November 25, 2011, 02:58:06 PM »
 You can't honestly believe... Alright, I'll bite. Can you point out the main points of said conspiracy?

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Re: Neutral and Objective Evidence Supporting Flat Earth
« Reply #88 on: November 25, 2011, 03:22:27 PM »
 So by saying it was warped by a fish eye lens, which would not affect the curvature of the planet whatsoever, you concede that it was taken via spacecraft of some kind, and, again, you refute yourself. Congrats, Tom. Whatever happened to not being able to get off of Earth?


Re: Neutral and Objective Evidence Supporting Flat Earth
« Reply #89 on: November 25, 2011, 03:27:52 PM »
So by saying it was warped by a fish eye lens, which would not affect the curvature of the planet whatsoever

It clearly has. Notice how the curve is even more pronounced near the edge of the photo.