Neutral and Objective Evidence Supporting Flat Earth

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Neutral and Objective Evidence Supporting Flat Earth
« on: November 15, 2011, 01:11:01 AM »
    Flat Earth Theory like many theories, e.g., evolution, is disputed.  One of the primary complaints of Round Earth Theorists raise against FET is the supposed lack of firm physical evidence supporting FET. Despite the numerous reliable works regarding this topic (which our dissenters just cannot seem to locate, willful ignorance?), adding more evidence can never be detrimental to our cause.

    As noted by polymath and FE theorist Thomas Fabian Bishop, your eyes are extremely effective tools at gathering information about the environment in a format which our brains can then rapidly convert to understanding. He has used this concept as the logical basis for many of his defense strategies, most notably for the now famous “look out your window” defense.  Extending upon these grown breaking paradigm shifts in scientific understanding, I humbly bring my own independent support for FE.
 
    Below I have several photographs of the horizon over the Pacific Ocean. Although I am of the belief that photographs are not a reputable medium for recoding information, they were particularly convenient for me to use; they can only grant further credence for FE.

    To paint an adequately accurate picture of the scene, I must give some auxiliary environmental information. When these photographs were taken the cameras elevation ranged between 2.132452-3.215422 meters above sea level (it was a calm day). My eye level also was confined to a similar range. The air temperature ranged between the low of 289.323193 and 291.123048 K. The humidity was around 50.432762%. I did not notice any curvature of the horizon, that entire duration of the scientific voyage (approximately 12 hours).

    I recorded several photos (as I mentioned earlier), which do depict curvature albeit slight. Now we have two seemingly contradictory pieces of evidence. However, applying Occam’s razor can sometimes yield unexpected results. In this case, it has granted us a fantastic tidbit of insight into the inner-working of our universe; affording us a precious token of understanding from which we can furbish our great FE knowledge tree. 

    It is extremely well documented that mans judgment is less than perfect. Thus most designs stemming from man will also inherit this imperfection. In contrast, devices designed by god, e.g., life, are perfect. If we were to accept this, then we would inevitably conclude that the cameras perception was more likely to be flawed than my eyes. After recording several photographs, the source of this error became readily apparent. My camera was not particularly expensive, thus its lens quality is substandard. As the evidence supporting that my camera had a flaw ammased, I simply had no choice but to investigate. After thorough investigation it became clear that my camera was subject to a manufacturing related defect, which warped the recorded image very slightly.  It now became clear that my earlier suspicions were in fact true. Knowing this, I present you these photos; despite their slight warp you can really tell how flat the earth is!







Also, I have more photos and I will show them upon request.
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Re: Neutral and Objective Evidence Supporting Flat Earth
« Reply #1 on: November 15, 2011, 01:16:50 AM »
Oh dear, either the Earth is concave, or tilting to the right or to the left!
“The Earth looks flat, therefore it is” FEers wisdom.

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Re: Neutral and Objective Evidence Supporting Flat Earth
« Reply #2 on: November 15, 2011, 01:18:35 AM »
Oh dear, either the Earth is concave, or tilting to the right or to the left!


Seeing as the ship was moving, many of the photographs are at an angle.
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Re: Neutral and Objective Evidence Supporting Flat Earth
« Reply #3 on: November 15, 2011, 01:20:56 AM »
It's still concave on the first picture.
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Re: Neutral and Objective Evidence Supporting Flat Earth
« Reply #4 on: November 15, 2011, 01:24:38 AM »
It's still concave on the first picture.

I noted there was a manufacturing defect with the camera. This was responsible for any apparent convex or concave shape in regards to the horizon.
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Re: Neutral and Objective Evidence Supporting Flat Earth
« Reply #5 on: November 15, 2011, 01:26:06 AM »
So the Earth appears flat to you.
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Re: Neutral and Objective Evidence Supporting Flat Earth
« Reply #6 on: November 15, 2011, 01:29:51 AM »
So the Earth appears flat to you.

Yes; It also appears flat in the photos, if you account for the distortion caused by the manufacturing defect.
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Re: Neutral and Objective Evidence Supporting Flat Earth
« Reply #7 on: November 15, 2011, 03:28:12 AM »
So what's your position.
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Re: Neutral and Objective Evidence Supporting Flat Earth
« Reply #8 on: November 15, 2011, 05:38:54 AM »
Toms middle name is Fabian???? :o

No way is he going to get elected with that hanging over him

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Re: Neutral and Objective Evidence Supporting Flat Earth
« Reply #9 on: November 15, 2011, 06:00:56 AM »
Forget the shape of the earth - is that a dolphin in the third picture?

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Re: Neutral and Objective Evidence Supporting Flat Earth
« Reply #10 on: November 15, 2011, 06:29:58 AM »
It looks flat. Thanks anteater.
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Re: Neutral and Objective Evidence Supporting Flat Earth
« Reply #11 on: November 15, 2011, 07:19:36 AM »
It looks.

Does it prome something? No.
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Re: Neutral and Objective Evidence Supporting Flat Earth
« Reply #12 on: November 15, 2011, 09:19:28 AM »
It looks.

Does it prome something? No.

Considering scientific consensus regarding the alleged circumference of the earth at the equator, there should be  no difficulty observing alleged curvature.  Its simply not there.  The tables pertaining to declination over distance are laid out in EnAG.
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Re: Neutral and Objective Evidence Supporting Flat Earth
« Reply #13 on: November 15, 2011, 10:59:08 AM »
Forget the shape of the earth - is that a dolphin in the third picture?

Re: Neutral and Objective Evidence Supporting Flat Earth
« Reply #14 on: November 15, 2011, 11:17:22 AM »
It looks.

Does it prome something? No.

Considering scientific consensus regarding the alleged circumference of the earth at the equator, there should be  no difficulty observing alleged curvature.  Its simply not there.  The tables pertaining to declination over distance are laid out in EnAG.

You don't know what you're alking about. Learn some science and come back later.
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Re: Neutral and Objective Evidence Supporting Flat Earth
« Reply #15 on: November 15, 2011, 04:48:32 PM »
You are correct, this is a piece of evidence which supports the idea that the earth is flat. Fortunately, there are many pieces of evidence to the contrary.
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Re: Neutral and Objective Evidence Supporting Flat Earth
« Reply #16 on: November 15, 2011, 04:53:35 PM »
You are correct, this is a piece of evidence which supports the idea that the earth is flat. Fortunately, there are many pieces of evidence to the contrary.

I respectfully disagree with your assertion relating to evidence supporting RE.
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Re: Neutral and Objective Evidence Supporting Flat Earth
« Reply #17 on: November 15, 2011, 05:47:49 PM »
Repeat the same observation from approximately 20000 meters in altitude. You might find a different result.
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Re: Neutral and Objective Evidence Supporting Flat Earth
« Reply #18 on: November 15, 2011, 06:25:51 PM »
It looks.

Does it prome something? No.

Considering scientific consensus regarding the alleged circumference of the earth at the equator, there should be  no difficulty observing alleged curvature.  Its simply not there.  The tables pertaining to declination over distance are laid out in EnAG.

You don't know what you're alking about. Learn some science and come back later.


You dont know what your talking about, you come back later.   Is this a good argument inyour opinion?
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Re: Neutral and Objective Evidence Supporting Flat Earth
« Reply #19 on: November 16, 2011, 03:03:56 AM »

Re: Neutral and Objective Evidence Supporting Flat Earth
« Reply #20 on: November 16, 2011, 04:01:33 AM »
It looks.

Does it prome something? No.

Considering scientific consensus regarding the alleged circumference of the earth at the equator, there should be  no difficulty observing alleged curvature.  Its simply not there.  The tables pertaining to declination over distance are laid out in EnAG.

You don't know what you're alking about. Learn some science and come back later.


You dont know what your talking about, you come back later.   Is this a good argument inyour opinion?

No, but your argument was very weak.
“The Earth looks flat, therefore it is” FEers wisdom.

Re: Neutral and Objective Evidence Supporting Flat Earth
« Reply #21 on: November 16, 2011, 08:26:45 AM »

Although I am of the belief that photographs are not a reputable medium for recoding information, they were particularly convenient for me to use;
   

I literally laughed out loud at this statement about photographs and then stopped reading.
The FAQ needs updating to reflect the falsehood of the FAQ.

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Re: Neutral and Objective Evidence Supporting Flat Earth
« Reply #22 on: November 16, 2011, 08:57:48 AM »
It is extremely well documented that mans judgment is less than perfect. Thus most designs stemming from man will also inherit this imperfection. In contrast, devices designed by god, e.g., life, are perfect. If we were to accept this, then we would inevitably conclude that the cameras perception was more likely to be flawed than my eyes.

If we were to accept this, then we would also inevitably conclude that there is no need for corrective lenses.
By eliminating all present contradicting possibilities you would arrive at the present truth. It's impossible to arrive at a future truth.

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Re: Neutral and Objective Evidence Supporting Flat Earth
« Reply #23 on: November 16, 2011, 04:14:42 PM »
It is extremely well documented that mans judgment is less than perfect. Thus most designs stemming from man will also inherit this imperfection. In contrast, devices designed by god, e.g., life, are perfect. If we were to accept this, then we would inevitably conclude that the cameras perception was more likely to be flawed than my eyes.

If we were to accept this, then we would also inevitably conclude that there is no need for corrective lenses.

Reevaluate your definition of perfection.
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Re: Neutral and Objective Evidence Supporting Flat Earth
« Reply #26 on: November 16, 2011, 06:49:58 PM »
Reevaluate your definition of perfection.

Please define it then.
By eliminating all present contradicting possibilities you would arrive at the present truth. It's impossible to arrive at a future truth.

Re: Neutral and Objective Evidence Supporting Flat Earth
« Reply #27 on: November 17, 2011, 12:29:12 AM »
Either we have a scientific discussion or a theological; the two of them don't mix well together (creationism vs evolution ie).
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Re: Neutral and Objective Evidence Supporting Flat Earth
« Reply #28 on: November 17, 2011, 02:19:35 AM »
Either we have a scientific discussion or a theological; the two of them don't mix well together (creationism vs evolution ie).

Where did I say I was against evolution? Also why can't I mix them, what if they're inseparable? 

Forget the shape of the earth - is that a dolphin in the third picture?

No, it was a humpback whale.


Reevaluate your definition of perfection.

Please define it then.

In biological terms, perfection is having a sufficient level of fitness.
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Re: Neutral and Objective Evidence Supporting Flat Earth
« Reply #29 on: November 17, 2011, 03:43:30 AM »
The eye isn't perfect. Just look for optical illusions.
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