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Esoteric Science / Exoteric (Conventional) Science
« on: November 06, 2011, 04:44:42 AM »
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Esoteric Science / Exoteric  Science

Synopsis

This was my response to a response by an acquittance regarding a Note I posted on FB several weeks ago. The Note was a tamer version of what I have extrapolated in my first and second posts of the Edward Leedskalnin - Magnetic Current thread. In this synopsis of what I addressed in the paper with additional emphasis in context with what my first 2 posts in the Ed Leedskalnin thread extrapolate. Its best to skip the 3rd paragraph onward if you have not read those 2 posts and go straight to the Philosophical Comparative section.

Firstly there was another aspect in the paper that have not covered in the Ed Leedskalnin thread, I had stated in my FB note that maths is arbitrary when dealing with fractal infinity in space because one layer of a fractal must be recalibrated to make sense with another above or below it when considered relatively as same scale proportions i.e. space that implodes (expands inward) maintains the resolution of objects as they are pulled into infinite depth as they shrink so the infinite potential of resolution exists in the endless inward depth of space. However the point from one band of implosive space to another is defined referentially as a difference by phi in the visual warp of the shrunk objects further in. Phi is used to illustrate this because phi is not a static measurement it is a ratio, thus phi is the best way of understanding unquantifiable constants i.e. 2 instances of the same object in space will appear as the exact finite size in reference to one another on the same band but when compared on differing bands of implosive space they have a different signature of positional infinite depth, both visually by distance, and essentially within themselves. My acquaintance had thought that I meant all maths is arbitrary and useless to quantify measurements in everyday life. What I intended to convey was that it's arbitrary because numerological reduction of the Fibonacci (Fib) sequence yields a repeating 24 number pattern and no matter how large the Fib numbers get they always reduce to these 24 single digits, whilst the ratio of phi between the numbers continues to become greater. As far as one can tell Phi does not have any recursive pattern when reduced (it's possible but it may be so large a length of sequence before it repeats that it may never be known). Thus because a Fib/phi based recursive fractal has no beginning or end, any two given consecutive steps of the Fib sequence yield an infinite number of possible phi ratios depending on where in the fractal one chooses to set their reference point to those two given steps. It's important to understand that Phi is an infinite number but the ratios of phi in the Fib sequence produce an approximation of phi, whereby in each proceeding ratio the decimal value of phi is extended further. However because an infinite fractal has no beginning or end there are an infinite number of approximate Phi ratios that can be calculated between any two given steps according to an infinite number of referential starting points to begin the recursive 24 step fib sequence in relation to the given ratio. There are an infinite number of Fib numbers as well (non-linearly speaking) but its the recursive reduction which shows a defined repetitive pattern whereby each number in the sequence has a unique quality, this is why the Fib sequence is the pattern that defines form in nature and why Phi is the unquantifiable constant of infinity that form manifests through.
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This recursive 24 pattern is shown to reduce further when one aligns the first 12 with the last 12 as 2 rows running knack and knack, whereby combining the verticality aligned values they all reduce to the number 9. This was discovered by two mathematicians, the one I know of is Jain of mathmagics Byron bay Australia. In the paper I explained the reason why the reduction to 9 is significant in esoteric numerology, because 0 represents the infinite one (1) 1 represents 2, 2 represents 3 and so on. so 9 thereby represents the 10th number of which when reduced = 1 which is also synonymous with 0.
 
So 9 represents the completion or full circle of a cycle, therefore since it also represents 1 it also represents 0. This can be understood fractaly if one contends with the idea that space implodes inward and that implosion = linear time, therefore a frequency based phenomena that is cycling through time has a positive peak in which defines the overt expression of its phenomenal quality and then a decline where it appears to fold back into itself only to re-expand with the next cycle. What is actually happening though is that the phenomena cycling has a defined scope which is always full to the brim with energy (fractal infinity) it only appears to decrease in volume as it vibrates to and fro with each cyclic closure, this can be understood by visualising its volume as a 3D grid of pixels/LED lights that are warped into its spherical scope. Now, when the cycle is in full expression of the positive overt peak all the pixels are expressing values of depth that create contrast and definition as a tangible element or form of energy and as the cycle closes those pixels begin to exponentially travel into infinity at a rate of equal measure which collapses the contrast into a uniform field i.e. the appearance of the expressed particle having folded into itself. There is a second factor however, and that is that as the defined scope of pixelated depth charge implodes into infinity it is getting greater in volume with more pixels filling out from the event horizon of its singularity point because those that already exist shrink, thus freeing up space for more to manifest and expand the resolution of its scope of depth. This is the effect that occurs as the particle rides through the implosive bands of depth within its cosmos. Essentially the fundamental implosive waveform of an Imploverse carries the particles in its quantum foam inward into greater depths of resolution, so that as the cyclic collapse and overt expression of its pixel-like components repeats it is never folding back but instead it is continually dividing itself into finer and finer resolution until contrast cannot be defined at the closure of a cycle, it instead appears as a uniform wave synonymous with the 9-(10>1)>0<1<2<3 etc whereby the < represent the inward implosive factor and the > represents the synonymous numerically reduced qualities and closure back to pure infinite potential 0 represents the next level or octave/band of inward implosion as the particle rides its cosm's fundamental carrier wave inward gaining more scope of depth i.e. cycles don't really fold back on themselves they keep imploding inward whilst dividing into finer resolution to the extent that definition ceases as a uniform-wave whereby scalar clusters of defined depth charge then begin to create the next cycle of the particles positive peak expression. 

The positive peak of can be represented by 5 as the expanded expression

i.e. 5 < 6 < 7 < 8 < 9-(10>1)> 0 < 1 < 2 < 3<4<5 

0 can be visualised as the exponential implosive zone i.e. what's commonly called a singularity point in the conventional theory of black-hole physics, and the 5 either end is the expansive scope of the expressed particle. all numbers in between represent the graduated phases of the cyclic pulse

The collapsed uniform wave can be represented with 0 either end.

i.e.
           The next positive peak contained as
           \           unmanifest potential           /
             \_________    ____________/ 
                                    \ /
                                      |
     0-1 < 2 < 3 < 4 < 5 < 6 < 7 < 8 < 9-(10>1)>0
     |                                                                         |
      \ the collapsed state in the present _____/

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Re: Esoteric Science / Exoteric (Conventional) Science
« Reply #1 on: November 06, 2011, 04:45:44 AM »
Esoteric Science / Exoteric Science; a Philosophical Comparative:

Q. Do you really believe that Science can explain the reality that is described by and experienced via religion (in general) and its adherents. [Not his exact words but those to the same effect]   

A. I believe Philosophy can explain it, there is no mystery as to how the cosmos works when one looses all pre conceptions about what we "think" we "know", and instead apply a completely philosophical understanding, albeit including the current ages technological understandings for the purpose of analogy. Therefore by exploring all of the available data; philosophical, theosophical<i.e. the study of religion/mysticism/shamanism, and scientific both mainstream and alternate, the perception seeker is guaranteed to gain the broadest scope of reality...whereby the  mystery is in the unfolding of ones path. Ones joy so to speak is unpredictably unfathomable when saturated with the ineffable presence of the infinite one, understood as a single continuous flash of compressed intuitive wisdom i.e. the epiphany of all epiphanies.

Maths is useful in many ways in everyday life, and more relevantly on track with our currently “uncommon topic”[speaking in context of the Note I had posted on FB], had Math not been devised we would not know of Phi. thus I would not have written that paper. Numerological reduction is but one way of using maths, it just so happens to be the one that is useful where Esoteric Science is concerned. If you read the paper again carefully [addressing my acquantance], you will find that what I am addressing is the unquantifiable constant of infinity (source) which is what all things are derived from. If infinity (source) is infinite it has no end there fore because all things exist within and in some way attached to source, they must therefore be in some way infinite as well. Its only that they are relativity equal by comparison that they appear finite. The finite illusion separates us form the awareness of source. If we can understand logically that we are infinite then that is one step to attaining enlightenment. Experiencing it on the other hand is another thing all together.

Psychedelics and meditation etc. have shown countless individuals over the span of human existence what infinity feels like. Some attained this awareness as a self sovereign constant, such as Krishna, Buddha, Christ etc.

Now consider this, when we have lots of things compacted into different scientific models and understandings it tends to fragment our minds into incompatible thought patterns i.e. science is like a religion and teaches people to accept 2 conflicting concepts which proliferate into the outer psyches perception i.e. internalised mapping of their orientation in the cosmos. For instance the idea that we are whirling around the sun and through the galaxy at unfathomable speeds due to a “LAW” of gravity, which falls apart at  the quantum level and cos people believe that gravity falls apart at quantum level it therefore cannot be a LAW. So believing in gravity as it is described and simultaneously believing in God and or quantum physics as it is proliferated by mainstream ideals will set up at least 2 conflicting belief patterns (its no different than a Christian holding to the bible and at the same time praising Allah) 
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In a universe which is based on one fundamental constant which is fractal, you would expect that Gravity and all other forces blend/overlap into one another as they progress down the scale. Thus there is cohesion between Gravity and the quantum level. However scientists can't identify it cos they are extending their undeveloped perception/intention (spiritually speaking) with the use of external devices. You cannot see “GOD (i.e. ultimate source consciousness)” in action, if you do not believe in it.

One must be in receptive resonance to the possible implications of the whole rather than assuming sceptical scrutiny via limited opinion as most scientists do, if they so wish to see the cohesion of the One Unified “Law”. Many say I will believe it when I see evidence, but that will never happen because first one must entertain the notion of the possibility before they can begin to experience first hand evidence of it. This means being open minded about the concepts and assuming them as true without evidence, this approach is not to be confused with blind faith. Blind faith is blind, there is no evidence to begin with and one who follows blindly does not question what they learn to believe is true. If they adhere to blind faith they will not change their mind even if direct experiential evidence is never yielded. This is not saying that there aren't religious adherents who have experienced direct evidence of the mysterious and miraculous, however what they must remember is that this doesn't  make every word in their scriptures true. The perception seeker on the other hand assumes the notions of a holistic reality to be true without having any agenda to defend, thus because they do not seek to prove anything to anyone but themself they release themself of the overburdenous pressure that seeking evidence for approval instils. This is why blind faith is parried by an equal measure of doubt, for if one does not know for a fact that what they believe is the entire truth they cannot believe in it without a shadow of doubt. Essentially belief in and of itself is one side of a dualistic disposition which automatically invites its counterpart, the presence of doubt. If one believes strongly enough they can keep the doubt at bay, this can happen easily if many believe the same thing, but that doesn't change the reality if the belief is in fact grounded in fallacy. Conversely the perception seeker holds the signature of intent that states to the mysterious "I know that if the cosmos is holistic in nature and I don't doubt for a minute that it will yield itself unto me if this is indeed true, then whilst I trust that this is so rather than believing it to be so I will come to know first hand that it is because my position is free of doubt.   
             
Because all is consciousness then one who so observers the workings of “GOD” under the circuitry i.e. that which is beyond the level of everyday natural perception, whilst entertaining the currently mainstream quantum physics model which does not gel with Einsteinian/Newtonian physics. They will see dis-coherence because their frequency of resonance is not aligned with the whole thus a reflection of what they project as their own abstract sceptical scrutiny is what they perceive.   

Yet people are expected to believe in both because they work (which they do relative to what they deal with) but they do not fit together as a unified theory. They are two purely left brain concepts of the cosmos which are in conflict in the wider perspective. They do not help us understand the cosmos as a whole and they use loads of left brain activity to comprehend i.e. ridiculously large equations that you have to study at Harvard University or somewhere to comprehend, along with being totally confined to mental processes in which practical thought experiments are near impossible to perform.
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Whilst it is true that religion and ancient cultures in general have devised infallible ways to get grounded in heart centred consciousness, (so long as according to them you stick by their one method), they still have conflict in their various world views. Science has been born as a result of the conflict of religion.

So science serves as a mediator between seemingly hard facts “knowledge (of which itself in areas, is questionable)” and the various versions of blind faith. However many scriptures demand that one adheres to their “proclaimed scriptural science's” i.e. Flat Earth cosmologies are common through out all religions as well as shamanistic/indigenous culture too. Tho some religions changed their scriptural Science's “interpretations” over time, take for instance the Hindu's who at one time believed the Earth to be a disk which sat on top of a giant elephant which sat on top of a giant tortuous, hence the expression “ its turtles all the way down” as an infinite rebuttal when asked “ what does the tortuous sit on top of?”   

In ancient times it was easier for individuals to have faith in a given religion, as the science's were equally as simple in comparison with the overall “advancements [read as: complications]” of the current scientific paradigm. The more complicated and non-unified various  Science's have become, the more fragmented the logical perceptual processes of the psyche have become.

Psychedelic drugs and meditation/prayer have the potential to liberate oneself form the hold of left brain logical belief systems. Psychedelics are an external tool and thus not a means to an end, they serve as stepping stones to access knowledge of ones highest potential. Many religious adherents admit that they only feel the spirit of the divine in full swing during mass, it isn't coincidence that the term “mass” in religious prayer/ceremony is ironically pointing out the reality of a mass collective consciousness which responds to prayer, or rather individuals make themselves receptive to divinity via the collectively localised reinforcing effect of belief practised in mass situations. This is also synonymous with the fact that Quantum Physics has been the only field of Scientific endeavour which has yielded - albeit non-mainstream, holistic explanations of the way consciousness works and interacts with its reality, pointing toward the notion of a collective mass consciousness.

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In light of these notions one can understand that based on the complications of science, and the subsequent waning lack of faith in the original stance of the scriptures. That the fragmented logical centres of which the majority of the population have been conditioned to believe (both intentionally and unintentionally by established science) have influenced polarisation of the mass collective psyche, with incomplete and conflicting models. This is also a direct cause and effect result of the opposite situation of the ancient past whereby the right brain centres dominated the collective psyche, however the belief of many different deities and/or agnostic faiths (i.e. Buddhism) created fragmentation of the collective heart centre of humanity. Therefore it will only be through the explanation of the unified cosmos via Esoteric Science; a combined effort of Science/metaphysics and Religion/theosophy that equalisation in the mass collective can occur.

These concepts are divergent yet overlapping, simple to grasp but lengthy in articulation. Very little mind bend maths needs to be know in order to comprehend, but plenty of cognitive bending of the current incomplete mind frame will occur until it wraps around into a complete whole.   

One can easily (so long as you read slowly and patiently, (some may need to revise it once they read through it once) grasp what I have written) And thus entertain the notions I have put forth as a means to replace the finite assumptions of current mainstream Ideas.
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« Reply #2 on: November 06, 2011, 01:10:11 PM »
I have read your posts slowly and carefully and understand everything you are putting forth. However, I don't think your theory matches reality, or at least this fractal nature of things has not become apparent. What evidence do you have that the world works this way?
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« Reply #3 on: November 07, 2011, 01:17:56 PM »
Disclaimer: Highly provocative metaphysical/spiritual content follows...always remember once a concept is understood the existence of it in ones conscience cannot be undone, even if one does not believe it (as belief simultaneously invites doubt about what is believed or not believed to be so), only by learning something that is of a higher truth (if such exists) will eradicate such a conceptuality as a facet of ones conscious/subconscious inventory. 

I have read your posts slowly and carefully and understand everything you are putting forth. However, I don't think your theory matches reality, or at least this fractal nature of things has not become apparent. What evidence do you have that the world works this way?


This image is some substantial exoterically dervied evidence.

But technology is simply limited, for starters one cannot create technology that measures frequencies outside the baseline of its own scope. i.e. all electronic devices have voltage and voltage only spans a certain range of the spectrum.

More importantly however is first hand esoteric evidence. Esoteric science is based on thought experiments that lead one to first hand evidence that reality is a fractal based on Toroidal fractal scalar physics. I have experienced my own evidence for this and that is the very reason why I can articulate it, as such the existence of the concept is the first piece of evidence, esoterically speaking. Most theory building takes place in the mind that thinks, however that which occurs in ones mind without intentionally directing ones logical thinking and instead appears as cognisant visualisations that are simultaneously understood intuitively, is not theory.

There is organic technology that can observe the extended range but it exists inside each of us a as extensions of our beings, but for the most part people don't have access to it.

Because:

A. they either don't recognise the relevance of the phenomena which entail its presence.

B. They have recognised it as being relevant to indicating spiritual phenomena and are disquieted by it, and thus choose to go into denial, there are others who fit into this category who do not deny it but are unsure as how to manage it 

I have come across some Organic experiments that people can practice by themselves.

1. If one has ever sat in a dim room or outside at dusk, and loosely gazed at one spot for an extended period 1-2 minutes at least, whilst already relaxed and in deep thought, they may recall seeing/feeling pulsating ripples that seemed to emanate out of or into your centre of visual awareness and/or temperature sensors around and the head and chest. This can often happen as one is watching TV in a dim room.

The ripples will have different colours depending on ones own state of mind, and they have a fuzzy pixelated quality about them. They are also synonymous with the Torus shape as they are rings that shrink inwards or expand outwards and then dissipate at the periphery of ones awareness as they come down or up the Vortational axis centred on the 3rd eye and spinal column (pranic tube). I say 3rd eye because regardless of whether one closes one eye or the other one can still see these ripples uniformly as if each of their eyes are open and observing them. They do not change in intensity of colour as one uses on eye with the other shut as would be expected if these rippling pulses were external and operating on the measurable band of energy that would be filtered by the eye-lid. Akin to when one closes their eyes and faces the sun, that which is golden-white day-light becomes red behind closed eyelids, if ones closed eyes stays oriented to the sun like this long enough there will be a bluish/aqua hue overlaying everything once they open them. These pulses in question are instead fixed upon ones awareness and centred, visually speaking, on the optic nerves/pineal gland (3rd eye). This is apparent because the visual pulsing follows as ones eyes move, one can evoke a similar effect by applying gentle yet firm continuous pressure to the eyelids when closed. After a short while of waiting pixelated patterns will pool and swirl in the closed eye field. This occurs because the eyes rods and cones that rely on oxygen where the blood is being prevented from saturating the eyes capillaries are starved of oxygen where the pressure is being applied, and the ones that are not are under greater blood pressure and oxygen absorption than normal. However when one perceives this pixelated ripple effect without evoking it physically in a dim room the colours and patterns are less abstract and uniformly symmetric, and they are not occurring due to pressure. This entails that they are an extension of ones own Toroid/Auric field patters projected from the 3D eye which translate down the optic nerve. When one sits still they can use these pulsations to detect other high frequently emanations that create interference patterns with their own auric toroids pulsations, these external fields actually remain static in location as one moves their eyes producing a streaming interference pattern across their own relative visual pulsations display as the 3rd eye translates the external information through, this entails that there is a 2 way aspect whereby the eyes can actually tune into the higher frequencies by being carried upon the 3rd eyes field directly, rather than translated info of the Aura and its state/environmental EM interference perception channelled down the optic nerve from the pineal gland. When one is very still they can sense the external fields in the subtle layers of their own aura as pressure/warmth when they are close.
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Generally people don't visually sense the Auras pulsing field until they are still and relaxed because the right brain centres are what deal with processing the sensations. The right brain takes a back seat during wakeful everyday mundane consciousness. EEG (electroencephalographs) can detect brainwave activity and its shown that brain waves that pulse between around 14-20 cycles are the wakeful cognitive and alert Beta range. This range extends up to the 40 cycles per second range when an individual is stressed. (note these brainwave-state range values are not static and vary from person to person, but are more or less the mean ranges.) The Alpha natural relaxed range is centred around 14-8 cycles per second and is levelled at the same range as the earth's natural pulsation frequency 7.83 or 8 electromagnetic/sound Htz the human brain's hemispheres become synchronised in this state, so the right brain's yield of sensory data is accessed by awareness. 7-4 cycles are the Theta state and access the deeper layers of the Earth's total EM/Gravic field. This is the level of day dreaming and visualisation, and which is also utilised by psychics. At the mid-low end of the Theta range 5-4 is the state of hypnogogia which is engaged as one is falling asleep i.e the "hallucinations" of sensory impressions that people experience as they fall asleep before entering a dream. Meditative adepts and animals alike can remain awake in this state and use it to visualise and day dream vividly, also people and elephants too can use it to draw, paint, create music that they can actually hear in their mind as vividly as it is coming out of a speaker/instrument in front of them.

The low theta - high delta range 4-3 cycles per second, is the state where ones awareness is in dream sleep. This is measured and noted as the Rapid Eye Movement REM sleep state. After this one goes into deep delta the supposedly dreamless sleep state where ones body begins to rejuvenate. This is possible here because the brain is no longer being fed sensory impressions and the body can begin to relax totally and unwind from stress, because consciousness is not present. 

Science knows very little about consciousness for the same reasons I have explained in the previous post of this thread. Before going further into the rabbit hole, these brain wave ranges will need to be categorized more efficiently. And I will have to add a disclaimer about the content that follows.

In the mean time for the rest of this post I will extrapolate a couple more examples of organic perception experiments and reasoning.

2. The second example occurred to me after I experienced pins and nedles in my fingertips, I had been suporting my head with my forearm whislt chilling out.

What I noticed was that when I flexed my fingers as one does when holding a pencil
there was a repulsive feeling as they got closer together. And the repulsive feeling would persist as I held them poised. Now blood would be being prevented from circulating into the finger tips, so, this repulsive feeling is attributed to the lack of plasma in the capillaries so as to equalise the bodies bio-plasm EM field. Thus my finger tips were momentarily experiencing a diminished equal polarized EM charge and one pole became overt repulsing itself like same pole magnets do.   
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3. On a similar note of pins and needles and the pixelated eye patterns. Some people experience the head rush that eneamic's experience when they black out, when the have been sitting cross-legged etc. for a long time and then get up. This is not because they are iron deficient, rather the circulation is being blocked because their knees fold some of the veins and the blood begins to flow into the calves at a rate slower than it is leaving. This in turn depletes the oxygen levels and plasma charge.

When one gets up the blood that has very little oxygen rushes to the brain and the pixelation patterns pulse through ones eyes. Usually this will not cause one to black out however, because it is only momentary and oxygen circulates to the brain quick enough. But what one may consider taking note of if they experience this at times is how the pixelated patterns pulse in unison with the heat/pressure wave that comes with the elevating rush; implying that the imbalanced bio-plasm EM charge has an interference pattern which occurs as the blood rushes through to the head and the visible pixel pulsation as ones eyes cloud up with swirling patterns tend to pulse in unison with the bodily pressure and heat sesations of the rush irresppective of the lag  of the initial interval between both effects. Once the pixel patterns are in swing it seems apparent that the visual display is transmitting pulsation swirl cycles as information translated from the Auric field and painted on the optical field via the 3rd eyes connection to the pranic tube (central hub of ones auric field energy signature) thus the visual pulsations occur in real time unison with the heat/pressure pulsation that ones body is feeling. If it were an effect that was not holistically immediate there would be de-coherence in the sensations rather than uniformity. This implies the holistic fractal entrainment of all scalar information of ones being from the Auric/Torus to the bio-plasma particles whereby all components of oneself are simultaneously in sync.                 

There is a 4th but it will take longer to articulate.
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« Reply #4 on: November 07, 2011, 01:31:31 PM »
So the Universe is only fractal at the largest scale (the entire Universe) and the fairly small scale (nerve cells)? It seems to me that such a fractal reality should be apparent at many other scales. For example, the mechanics of the large (planets and such) look completely different than those of the really small (atoms and such).
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« Reply #5 on: November 07, 2011, 05:13:32 PM »
So the Universe is only fractal at the largest scale (the entire Universe) and the fairly small scale (nerve cells)? It seems to me that such a fractal reality should be apparent at many other scales. For example, the mechanics of the large (planets and such) look completely different than those of the really small (atoms and such).

1. Absolutely all other emanations are scalar based finite pseudo fractal i.e. clusters of scalar pseudo-Tori (finite phenomena; living creatures; worlds; suns etc) managed and arranged by the mT (omega quantum components within the Alpha Master Macro Torus which comprise finite constructs which are determined by various clusters of mT Dch contrast producing a wide range of comparatively abstract (yet beautiful) patterns within the Cosmic strata MMT<mT Template.

Take ourselves for instance we look nothing like a Torus... that's because we are made of infinitesimal scale mT clusters. Those clusters are however embedded in a pseudo Torus i.e. the human aura, which is made of vastly smaller tori clusters in the epsilon+ range. Those epsilon Tori act uniformly around the gross mass clusters of the biophysical body exerting a gravitational like effect which binds biophysical clusters of multiple variations...hence the complexity of form. 
 
Essentially the MMT is a single mT to a larger cosm, like wise mT are MMT's in their own right. This signifies the Holistic as above so below factor.

when you treat the Alpha and omega as a relatively vast interval like the perfect octave chord in musical theory e.g. C4 and C5 and every other phenomena like the lesser perfect ratio chords. Progressively speaking next comes the perfect 5th i.e C4 to G4.

Here it is in better perspective

Intervals Between Notes
C to C# is a minor 2nd
C to D is a major 2nd
C to D# is a minor 3rd
C to E is a major 3rd
C to F is a perfect 4th
C to F# is a augmented 4th
C to F# is a diminished 5th
C to G is a perfect 5th
C to G# is a augmented 5th
C to G# is a minor 6th
C to A is a major 6th
C to A# is a minor 7th
C to B is a major 7th
C +  octave C


C5-----------------------(perfect octave)----------------(Alpha substratum MMT)
b                                                                                             P   
a#                                                                                          e 
a                                                                                             r   
g#                                                                                           f                                                           
g------------------------------------(Perfect 5th)                          e                                                                                     
f#         Gravity                                            |                          c
f-----------------------(perfect 4th)                 |                          t                 
e                                     |                            |                         O
d#                                   |                            |                         c
d                                      |                           |                          t
c#                                    |                           |                          v
C4---------------------------[--------------------[-----------(Omega strata: mT)

This shows how there are three perfect intervals; synonymous with the Tri-polar aspect of Imploversial Physics. i.e. Alpha and Omega (perfect octave as the carrier wave) and then the Perfect 5th and Perfect 4th represent
 the 2-fold macro cosmic (finite phenomena) micro cosmic (quantum Dch) factor of scalar wave physics
 

Think of it like this all matter and energy is existing on various octaves intervals, wavelengths or channels of the same space and each form of matter/energy has a different threshold of infinite depth that is accessed by its quality centred on a different octave/channel to every other form of matter/energy of the same quantified space. However it isn't a linear depth as in down but a within inward centralised depth so Gravity being the most expansive phenomena encompasses all other frequencies of depth, thus like Russian dolls next comes epsilon waves, gamma, ultraviolet, infra-red/heat/light, sound, electromagnetism and then atomic. they all exist with same volume of space but at various wavelengths of depth which are shorter than gravity...hence gravity encompasses them, because it is expansive it cycles slower and has a more permeable quality about it.

The essence of Gravity can be understood to be similar to how a quantified bracket of measurement on ruler when placed over an elastic band will show that the amount of existing mass from within the range of bracket of measurement is decreased as the elastic is stretched. Hence gravity is a wide thin waveform but there is a hidden factor which gives its thinness a mighty quality. Effectively gravity is a carrier wave by which all other phenomena manifest through...


The intervals depiction/graph above is linearly augmented so doesn't represent the finite phenomenal wavelengths being centralised and encompassed by gravity, however by inverting it vertically speaking in your mind and overlaying it gives a better understanding of its the tri-polar quality corresponding from the Gravity as the mediator (f#) and encompasser of all finite wavelengths c#-b. Conversely this could be visualised by collapsing the graph lines implied by each note into a single horizontal line 


The Ancients knew of it, because they were not hampered by conflicting scientific concepts. Their consciousness was more easily aligned with the receiving the holographic imprints of reality that are innately enfolded inside living conciousness.

So the Universe is only fractal at the largest scale (the entire Universe) and the fairly small scale (nerve cells)? It seems to me that such a fractal reality should be apparent at many other scales. For example, the mechanics of the large (planets and such) look completely different than those of the really small (atoms and such).

2. I'm certain no one has ever actually seen an atom. Have you? what has been observed is limited fragments via quantum measurements. As atoms stand for themselves when not being observed via electronic means, no one has any tangible evidence for how they may behave.

3. Plants/Trees bare a remarkable resemblance to capillaries nerves and the lungs bronchial tubes, incidentally plants are like the lungs of the earth.
 
" class="bbc_link" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"> Fibonacci's fractals
" class="bbc_link" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"> Mandelbrot Zoom

Also am I to understand the disclaimer prompted you to only looked at the picture and skip the rest of the post. If you did read the 3 examples of reasoning/organic internally based scientific evidence, then I must inquire; thus far you have shown an incline toward accepting the possibility of spiritual implications of the human Aura/Torus as you didn't refute the post on emotional health and well being. If this is not accurate assumption on my behalf please enlighten me.
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