The merged ultimate challenge for FE'ers

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Re: The merged ultimate challenge for FE'ers
« Reply #300 on: November 18, 2011, 01:57:30 PM »
Perhaps under RET geometry.

Do you ever wonder why RET geometry works in the world we all live in and NOT on a Flat Earth map?

Do you ever wonder why RET geometry works in every other measurement except in measurements of YOUR understanding of the world... but not ours?
...does anyone find it funny that the Flat Earth model is actually round?

Re: The merged ultimate challenge for FE'ers
« Reply #301 on: November 18, 2011, 01:59:33 PM »
But you calculate them following some strange paths that, contrary to your belief, do not constitute straight lines.

No, you gave us the straight lines.  You gave us a flat map with straight lines.  On a round earth, they are straight lines.  That's why they prove to be the shortest paths available... because we live on a round planet.
...does anyone find it funny that the Flat Earth model is actually round?

Re: The merged ultimate challenge for FE'ers
« Reply #302 on: November 19, 2011, 03:57:11 AM »
Dear PlanetPizzaz, why don't you provide your own FE map with your straiht lines?
“The Earth looks flat, therefore it is” FEers wisdom.

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Re: The merged ultimate challenge for FE'ers
« Reply #303 on: November 19, 2011, 04:36:42 AM »
Do you ever wonder why RET geometry works in the world we all live in[...]?
It doesn't.

Do you ever wonder why RET geometry works in every [...] measurement[...]?
It doesn't.

Dear PlanetPizzaz, why don't you provide your own FE map with your straiht lines?
I have done so several times.
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Re: The merged ultimate challenge for FE'ers
« Reply #304 on: November 19, 2011, 05:39:41 AM »
RET geometry works of course, because the curvature of the Earth doen't affect most of our everydays life.

I'm still waiting for a FE map with straight lines (not a RE map with circuar latitudes).
“The Earth looks flat, therefore it is” FEers wisdom.

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Re: The merged ultimate challenge for FE'ers
« Reply #305 on: November 19, 2011, 06:25:51 AM »
RET geometry works of course, because the curvature of the Earth doen't affect most of our everydays life.
Prove it.
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Re: The merged ultimate challenge for FE'ers
« Reply #306 on: November 19, 2011, 06:43:08 AM »
I'm not interested in proving RE.
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Re: The merged ultimate challenge for FE'ers
« Reply #307 on: November 19, 2011, 06:48:10 AM »
I'm not interested in proving RE.
Haha, oh wow.
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Re: The merged ultimate challenge for FE'ers
« Reply #308 on: November 19, 2011, 09:03:46 AM »
Its a question of validated theory endorsed by billions vs. questionable ideas.

FET has everything to prove.
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Re: The merged ultimate challenge for FE'ers
« Reply #309 on: November 19, 2011, 09:51:24 AM »
endorsed by billions
lol, argumentum ad populum.

I don't need to prove it, because it's popular!
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Re: The merged ultimate challenge for FE'ers
« Reply #310 on: November 19, 2011, 10:07:09 AM »
Its a question of validated theory endorsed by billions vs. questionable ideas.

FET has everything to prove.

This is The Flat Earth Society, we promote FET. We put forth information in why we believe the Earth is flat, and do the very best to support this argument given the few resources we have. People should come here either 1.) they find FET interesting and/or enlightening, or 2.) they believe our argument against a round earth is wrong or flawed. You have no interest in arguing that the earth is round? And it seems the first doesn't really apply to you, so why are you here?

We've presented our side, the burden of proof is on you.

(I see "we" to represent the society as a whole, I personally have had virtually no scientific contributions to FET)
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Re: The merged ultimate challenge for FE'ers
« Reply #311 on: November 19, 2011, 10:30:07 AM »
RET geometry works of course, because the curvature of the Earth doen't affect most of our everydays life.

I'm still waiting for a FE map with straight lines (not a RE map with circuar latitudes).

We gave you a map. We gave you a political map. We even made a distance formula for you. You want something else now? Also, what, exactly, do you mean?

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Re: The merged ultimate challenge for FE'ers
« Reply #312 on: November 19, 2011, 10:46:12 AM »
Do you claim any of the maps you provided are accurate?
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Re: The merged ultimate challenge for FE'ers
« Reply #313 on: November 19, 2011, 11:04:11 AM »
endorsed by billions
lol, argumentum ad populum.

I don't need to prove it, because it's popular!

If you quote, don't cherry-pick, you'll look like a fraud: "validated theory".
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Re: The merged ultimate challenge for FE'ers
« Reply #314 on: November 19, 2011, 12:29:28 PM »
Do you claim any of the maps you provided are accurate?

I do.

Re: The merged ultimate challenge for FE'ers
« Reply #315 on: November 19, 2011, 12:37:31 PM »
They are accurate RE maps.

But a good RE map, whatever projection you use, will never make a FE map.
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Re: The merged ultimate challenge for FE'ers
« Reply #316 on: November 19, 2011, 12:41:44 PM »
"validated theory".
I've asked you to prove that it's "validated", but you didn't want to. Therefore, I see no reason to consider it "validated".
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Re: The merged ultimate challenge for FE'ers
« Reply #317 on: November 19, 2011, 12:46:20 PM »
We were talking of geometry. I don't want to femonstrate geometry.

You can dismiss what you want, but still no FE map! Too lazy to provide one?
“The Earth looks flat, therefore it is” FEers wisdom.

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Re: The merged ultimate challenge for FE'ers
« Reply #318 on: November 19, 2011, 12:55:11 PM »
We were talking of geometry. I don't want to femonstrate geometry.
No, we weren't. Also, if you don't want to femonstrate [sic] it, then don't explain me to consider it femonstrated [sic] or "validated".

You can dismiss what you want, but still no FE map! Too lazy to provide one?
You can dismiss all you want, but there's a FE map in the third post of this thread.
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Re: The merged ultimate challenge for FE'ers
« Reply #319 on: November 19, 2011, 01:23:44 PM »
You can dismiss all you want, but there's a FE map in the third post of this thread.

Yes, a nice RE map. Thanks for supporting RET.
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Re: The merged ultimate challenge for FE'ers
« Reply #320 on: November 19, 2011, 01:50:52 PM »
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Re: The merged ultimate challenge for FE'ers
« Reply #321 on: November 19, 2011, 02:06:49 PM »
Repeating yourself wont transform your RE maps into FE maps.
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Re: The merged ultimate challenge for FE'ers
« Reply #322 on: November 19, 2011, 02:20:38 PM »
Repeating yourself wont transform your RE maps into FE maps.
lol
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Re: The ultimate challenge for FE'ers
« Reply #323 on: November 19, 2011, 04:00:00 PM »
I forgot to add: the map should also work in the absence of light. (Does darness bend too?)

Here's a representation of the Earth in absolute darkness:


This is PlanetPizzaz viw of the Earth at night (note that the night covers the entire world).

Though it's probably the most accurate FE map so far.
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Re: The ultimate challenge for FE'ers
« Reply #324 on: November 20, 2011, 10:07:54 AM »
the absence of light
absolute darkness
night
ITT: EmperorZhark admits to believing that"the absence of light" and/or "absolute darkness" means "night". Hilarity ensues once again.
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Re: The merged ultimate challenge for FE'ers
« Reply #325 on: November 20, 2011, 10:42:17 AM »
I was simplifying to give you the pleasure of patronizing me.

Now you can stop laughing and you can come up with a FE map. Not a RE map. You heard me? Not a RE map.
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Re: The merged ultimate challenge for FE'ers
« Reply #326 on: November 20, 2011, 11:38:32 AM »
I was simplifying to give you the pleasure of patronizing me.
Of course you were.

Now you can stop laughing and you can come up with a FE map. Not a RE map. You heard me? Not a RE map.
But of course. All the maps I have posted in this thread are FE maps. Same goes for the other members' maps.
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Re: The merged ultimate challenge for FE'ers
« Reply #327 on: November 20, 2011, 11:49:31 AM »
I was simplifying to give you the pleasure of patronizing me.
Of course you were.

Now you can stop laughing and you can come up with a FE map. Not a RE map. You heard me? Not a RE map.
But of course. All the maps I have posted in this thread are FE maps. Same goes for the other members' maps.

Giving a flat projection of a round Earth map does not constitute a flat Earth map. Try again.
You, sir, can't comprehend the idea of bottoms.

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Re: The merged ultimate challenge for FE'ers
« Reply #328 on: November 20, 2011, 11:56:52 AM »
Giving a flat projection of a round Earth map does not constitute a flat Earth map.
This is something you have yet to elaborate on. You see, there is only one Earth. Regardless of its shape, we're talking about the same celestial body. Saying that a map is a map of one model but not the other is, to put it lightly, moronic. That is, of course, unless you have a valid reason to think that we live on different planets/celestial bodies of your favourite kind and flavour, in which case I'm very interested to hear about your ideas.
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Re: The merged ultimate challenge for FE'ers
« Reply #329 on: November 20, 2011, 12:18:08 PM »
Giving a flat projection of a round Earth map does not constitute a flat Earth map.
This is something you have yet to elaborate on. You see, there is only one Earth. Regardless of its shape, we're talking about the same celestial body. Saying that a map is a map of one model but not the other is, to put it lightly, moronic. That is, of course, unless you have a valid reason to think that we live on different planets/celestial bodies of your favourite kind and flavour, in which case I'm very interested to hear about your ideas.

Since you will not or cannot understand I will explain it to you. If you take a globe (i.e. a round Earth) and project it onto a 2 dimensional map, you will have distortions that come from a 3D object (sphere) being represented by a 2D object (map). If the Earth were actually flat, then there would be no distortions as you would be going from a 2D object (flat Earth) to another 2D object (map). A map of a round Earth would be quite different than a map of a flat Earth. The only condition that is placed on your map is that is matches known distances and preserved known areas. Doing so with no distortions would be evidence for a flat Earth, if it can only be done with distortions, it would be evidence for a non-flat (i.e. round) Earth.

Likewise from your post above, I would like to see how a spherical object is identical to a flat object, as you seem to believe. To put it lightly, the belief that a flat Earth would be identical to round Earth is moronic.
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You, sir, can't comprehend the idea of bottoms.