Poland War crimes Witch hunt stupid

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Poland War crimes Witch hunt stupid
« on: October 27, 2011, 03:45:36 PM »
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-15486472

Poland have decided to look for Nazi war criminals. I think this is the most stupid, bitter, bit of dick waving Jews could do in Poland. Modern day Jews are a disgrace. They aren't forgiving, they aren't compassionate, they are only interested in drawing attention to how badly their ancestors were treated. Get over it. The Romans were mean to my ancestors.

Facts. WWII ended in 1945. If someone was 20 when it ended, they are 86 today.

So ...
Anyone asked to stand trial will easily be able to say they are too ill to stand trial.
No one in the court room was there. The barristers, the judges, the jury. They have no idea what it was like. How dare they judge them?
If you aged 20 were a German soldier, brought up in Hitler youth and of low rank, are you going to stand up to an entire rank of command above you running a concentration camp? I mean seriously? You would be the lowest rank and very very young. You are going to do the job you are ordered to do.

They had 6 decades to catch the really bad guys. They are all long dead. Why is Poland going after elderly men for 'crimes' they committed as teenagers in many cases?

Yes, concentration camps were a very bad thing, but it is history. Leave it there and let these poor old German bastards see out the last of their days in peace. Shame on you Poland, you petty tw*ts. I hope Germany will tell you to GTFO and say enough is enough.
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Wakka Wakka

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Re: Poland War crimes Witch hunt stupid
« Reply #1 on: October 27, 2011, 05:43:10 PM »
Simply being "ordered" to do something isn't a sufficient justification for following the order if you believe it to be unlawful or immoral.  That being said, 80 + year old men being charged for crimes they committed 6 decades ago is ludicrous.
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Re: Poland War crimes Witch hunt stupid
« Reply #2 on: October 27, 2011, 05:47:09 PM »
Am I the only one that has now lost all respect for Thork?
How dare you have the audacity to demand my deposition. I've never even heard of you.

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Re: Poland War crimes Witch hunt stupid
« Reply #3 on: October 27, 2011, 06:32:04 PM »
Am I the only one that has now lost all respect for Thork?

Lurk the fuck moar.
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Thork

Re: Poland War crimes Witch hunt stupid
« Reply #4 on: October 28, 2011, 01:57:55 AM »
Am I the only one that has now lost all respect for Thork?
Oh goodness. You've lost respect for me? I'm distraught.

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Re: Poland War crimes Witch hunt stupid
« Reply #5 on: October 28, 2011, 02:01:54 AM »
It an ongoing thing in Poland. Some people (mostly elderly Catholic conservative females) demand justice. They are a very large group in Poland. Whichever political party appeases them the most gets their votes, which often decide who wins the elections.
It's a matter of time until they kindly die, but hey. That's how things are right now.
hacking your precious forum as we speak 8) 8) 8)

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Re: Poland War crimes Witch hunt stupid
« Reply #6 on: October 28, 2011, 02:36:34 AM »
Am I the only one that has now lost all respect for Thork?
Oh goodness. You've lost respect for me? I'm distraught.

When you write something like this:

Modern day Jews are a disgrace.

I am surprised that more people don't call you out on such a bullshit, ignorant, and just plain retarded comment.
« Last Edit: October 28, 2011, 02:38:19 AM by Horatio »
How dare you have the audacity to demand my deposition. I've never even heard of you.

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Thork

Re: Poland War crimes Witch hunt stupid
« Reply #7 on: October 28, 2011, 03:08:09 AM »
So you think this is a good idea? You think its not disgraceful? Maybe you could add some content to your reply this time?

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Re: Poland War crimes Witch hunt stupid
« Reply #8 on: October 28, 2011, 03:15:49 AM »
The Holocaust was a terrible event for a large group of people. This, however, does not entitle anyone to act like an asshole 60 years later.

Justice is a noble goal, but if they regretted their decision then they've suffered with that for 60 years. If they didn't regret it then they're so close to death that no punishment will have any meaning.
You have been ignored for common interest of mankind.

I am a terrible person and I am a typical Blowhard Liberal for being wrong about Bom.

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Re: Poland War crimes Witch hunt stupid
« Reply #9 on: October 28, 2011, 03:17:17 AM »
So you think this is a good idea? You think its not disgraceful?

There are still plenty of people alive that endured suffering far beyond your imagining in the concentration camps, why should they be denied justice? You have no idea what it was like, so how dare you deny them justice?

Age is not a valid excuse when it comes to such crimes, nor is acting under orders. International law is rather clear about that point.

Take your antisemitic nonsense elsewhere, Thork. You saw fit to generalize an entire group and somehow think you have the morality authority to say that justice is not needed. Your arguments have absolutely no credibility and nor do you from now on.
How dare you have the audacity to demand my deposition. I've never even heard of you.

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Thork

Re: Poland War crimes Witch hunt stupid
« Reply #10 on: October 28, 2011, 03:25:56 AM »
My argument is that this is not justice. Do not tell me you would do anything different to those men.

Imagine being 18 years old in the middle of a world war. You are relieved not to be sent to the Russian front. You hope you can see out the war in the safety of a concentration camp. Your mother has probably told you to keep your head down until its all over. You are told by smart men that run your military in expensive Hugo Boss uniforms covered in medals, to do a job. Do you go and get court marshalled on your first day or sent to Russia? Do you think they are going to shut everything down because of your objection Private? Do you have any life experience to tell you that is not the way war should be conducted?

The people they hunt now did not organise concentration camps. They didn't plan them. Decide who should be in them. Run them. Make any choices about them whatsoever. The people they hunt now were German teenagers, stationed in camps by virtue of lottery.

And yes I generalised a group. It is not individuals bringing these stupid cases to court. It is a group. The Jewish in Poland.

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Re: Poland War crimes Witch hunt stupid
« Reply #11 on: October 28, 2011, 03:41:19 AM »
Simply being "ordered" to do something isn't a sufficient justification for following the order if you believe it to be unlawful or immoral.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milgram_experiment
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Re: Poland War crimes Witch hunt stupid
« Reply #12 on: October 28, 2011, 05:21:09 AM »
Meh. Blacks still want reparations.

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Re: Poland War crimes Witch hunt stupid
« Reply #13 on: October 28, 2011, 11:37:11 AM »
Once again, Thork makes a valid point - and then buries it with his racist bullshit.

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Re: Poland War crimes Witch hunt stupid
« Reply #14 on: October 28, 2011, 11:59:47 AM »
Once again, Thork makes a valid point - and then buries it with his racist bullshit.
???

Do you just follow me around the forum looking for opportunities to throw stones?

First ... Judaism is not a race. Its a religion. I am entitled to be as non-plussed by the behaviour of Jews as Americans are with Islamists.
Second ... I have a record on this site of actually defending Jews.
http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=45915.msg1135190#msg1135190 For example.
Third there is a thread going on right now bashing Jews that you have made no comment on whatsoever.
http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=51349.msg1261671#msg1261671
Several members all planning a game of werewolf by popping Jews in ovens. You will note I have not participated at all in that thread. I have noticed you didn't feel the need to waft in with your judgemental shite as usual. You commented on this, because I wrote it.

The fact I find these actions despicable and that I accuse Jews of this as a wider group is because none of them have stood up and said this is not what I believe. The exact crime they accuse these elderly German men of. They are still hunting down Nazi soldiers looking to exterminate any existence of these people over 60 years later. They are looking to cleanse the planet of them. They are unable to turn the other cheek. And then there is the Israeli Jews committing what can only be described as atrocities against the Palestinians. I hope Israeli Jews are being hunted for war crimes when they are in their 80's. I find the public actions of 'Jews' hypocritical and spiteful. If Jews want to let these people speak for them, then that will be my opinion of Jews. If they can stand up and say "we are being unreasonable" as I'm sure many feel, then their reputation as Jews will be altered.
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Re: Poland War crimes Witch hunt stupid
« Reply #15 on: October 28, 2011, 12:25:33 PM »
Simply being "ordered" to do something isn't a sufficient justification for following the order if you believe it to be unlawful or immoral.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milgram_experiment

How extremely interesting.

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Re: Poland War crimes Witch hunt stupid
« Reply #16 on: October 28, 2011, 12:43:52 PM »
They're not allowed to perform that one anymore.
I don't know what you're implying, but you're probably wrong.

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Re: Poland War crimes Witch hunt stupid
« Reply #17 on: October 28, 2011, 02:00:32 PM »
Whoa, heeey. Americans (generalization) hating Islamists (generalization) is just as horrible as you hating Jews (generalization). Can we not make sweeping generalizations, Thorky? They are very offensive and ALWAYS totes inaccurate.

Now moving on, this is total bs and definitely not 'justice'. 

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Re: Poland War crimes Witch hunt stupid
« Reply #18 on: October 28, 2011, 02:08:06 PM »
They're not allowed to perform that one anymore.

They aren't? The last replication of this experiment took place in France, 2010.

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Re: Poland War crimes Witch hunt stupid
« Reply #19 on: October 28, 2011, 04:55:43 PM »
Once again, Thork makes a valid point - and then buries it with his racist bullshit.
???

Do you just follow me around the forum looking for opportunities to throw stones?

First ... Judaism is not a race. Its a religion. I am entitled to be as non-plussed by the behaviour of Jews as Americans are with Islamists.
Second ... I have a record on this site of actually defending Jews.
http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=45915.msg1135190#msg1135190 For example.
Third there is a thread going on right now bashing Jews that you have made no comment on whatsoever.
http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=51349.msg1261671#msg1261671
Several members all planning a game of werewolf by popping Jews in ovens. You will note I have not participated at all in that thread. I have noticed you didn't feel the need to waft in with your judgemental shite as usual. You commented on this, because I wrote it.

The fact I find these actions despicable and that I accuse Jews of this as a wider group is because none of them have stood up and said this is not what I believe. The exact crime they accuse these elderly German men of. They are still hunting down Nazi soldiers looking to exterminate any existence of these people over 60 years later. They are looking to cleanse the planet of them. They are unable to turn the other cheek. And then there is the Israeli Jews committing what can only be described as atrocities against the Palestinians. I hope Israeli Jews are being hunted for war crimes when they are in their 80's. I find the public actions of 'Jews' hypocritical and spiteful. If Jews want to let these people speak for them, then that will be my opinion of Jews. If they can stand up and say "we are being unreasonable" as I'm sure many feel, then their reputation as Jews will be altered.

I didn't call you a racist. ::)  I'm just commenting on how you so often manage to screw up your points by bringing them up in the worst ways possible.  Yes, what you're saying about Jews is in fact racist.  You're blaming the actions of a few people on everyone in that ethnicity, and your attempts to justify it are weak.
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Re: Poland War crimes Witch hunt stupid
« Reply #20 on: October 28, 2011, 05:17:28 PM »
Once again, Thork makes a valid point - and then buries it with his racist bullshit.
???

Do you just follow me around the forum looking for opportunities to throw stones?

First ... Judaism is not a race. Its a religion. I am entitled to be as non-plussed by the behaviour of Jews as Americans are with Islamists.
Second ... I have a record on this site of actually defending Jews.
http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=45915.msg1135190#msg1135190 For example.
Third there is a thread going on right now bashing Jews that you have made no comment on whatsoever.
http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=51349.msg1261671#msg1261671
Several members all planning a game of werewolf by popping Jews in ovens. You will note I have not participated at all in that thread. I have noticed you didn't feel the need to waft in with your judgemental shite as usual. You commented on this, because I wrote it.

The fact I find these actions despicable and that I accuse Jews of this as a wider group is because none of them have stood up and said this is not what I believe. The exact crime they accuse these elderly German men of. They are still hunting down Nazi soldiers looking to exterminate any existence of these people over 60 years later. They are looking to cleanse the planet of them. They are unable to turn the other cheek. And then there is the Israeli Jews committing what can only be described as atrocities against the Palestinians. I hope Israeli Jews are being hunted for war crimes when they are in their 80's. I find the public actions of 'Jews' hypocritical and spiteful. If Jews want to let these people speak for them, then that will be my opinion of Jews. If they can stand up and say "we are being unreasonable" as I'm sure many feel, then their reputation as Jews will be altered.

The fact I find these actions despicable and that I accuse Jews of this as a wider group is because none of them have stood up and said this is not what I believe. The exact crime they accuse these elderly German men of. They are still hunting down Nazi soldiers looking to exterminate any existence of these people over 60 years later. They are looking to cleanse the planet of them. They are unable to turn the other cheek. And then there is the Israeli Jews committing what can only be described as atrocities against the Palestinians. I hope Israeli Jews are being hunted for war crimes when they are in their 80's. I find the public actions of 'Jews' hypocritical and spiteful. If Jews want to let these people speak for them, then that will be my opinion of Jews. If they can stand up and say "we are being unreasonable" as I'm sure many feel, then their reputation as Jews will be altered.

I didn't call you a racist. ::)  I'm just commenting on how you so often manage to screw up your points by bringing them up in the worst ways possible.  Yes, what you're saying about Jews is in fact racist.  You're blaming the actions of a few people on everyone in that ethnicity, and your attempts to justify it are weak.

Incorrect. Jews are not a "race" or ethnicity.

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Re: Poland War crimes Witch hunt stupid
« Reply #21 on: October 28, 2011, 06:01:25 PM »
“Hitler was right in one thing. He calls the Jewish people a race and we are a race.” - Rabbi Stephen F. Wise
I'm not black nor a thug, I'm more like god who will bring 7 plagues of flat earth upon your ass.

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Re: Poland War crimes Witch hunt stupid
« Reply #22 on: October 28, 2011, 06:03:50 PM »
“Hitler was right in one thing. He calls the Jewish people a race and we are a race.” - Rabbi Stephen F. Wise

I know several Jews that would be very offended of that. And where's the Jew race option on applications?  ???

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Re: Poland War crimes Witch hunt stupid
« Reply #23 on: October 28, 2011, 06:05:30 PM »
An editorial entitled “Some Other Race” in the New York weekly Forward (A very prestigious Jewish publication) urges Jews to list themselves on the U.S. Government census form as a race. It goes on to suggest:
“… On question eight [of the form, which asks about race], you might consider doing what more than one member of our redaktzia [editorial staff] has done: checking the box ‘some other race’ and writing in the word ‘Jew’.”
I'm not black nor a thug, I'm more like god who will bring 7 plagues of flat earth upon your ass.

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Re: Poland War crimes Witch hunt stupid
« Reply #24 on: October 28, 2011, 06:08:46 PM »
An editorial entitled “Some Other Race” in the New York weekly Forward (A very prestigious Jewish publication) urges Jews to list themselves on the U.S. Government census form as a race. It goes on to suggest:
“… On question eight [of the form, which asks about race], you might consider doing what more than one member of our redaktzia [editorial staff] has done: checking the box ‘some other race’ and writing in the word ‘Jew’.”

What if they're a purely religious Jew?

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Re: Poland War crimes Witch hunt stupid
« Reply #25 on: October 28, 2011, 07:02:52 PM »
China and the Soviet Union called. They want their 100 million murdered people back. Fucking communists.

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Re: Poland War crimes Witch hunt stupid
« Reply #26 on: October 28, 2011, 08:07:36 PM »
China and the Soviet Union called. They want their 100 million murdered people back. Fucking communists.

Are you trying to say that the holocaust was insignificant because something worse happened somewhere else?

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Re: Poland War crimes Witch hunt stupid
« Reply #27 on: October 28, 2011, 08:08:37 PM »
China and the Soviet Union called. They want their 100 million murdered people back. Fucking communists.

Are you trying to say that the holocaust was insignificant

No.

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Re: Poland War crimes Witch hunt stupid
« Reply #28 on: October 28, 2011, 08:45:51 PM »
"Racism" is a colloquial term frequently used to signify bigotry towards almost any sub-section of the population.  It's a waste of time to argue about whether or not something is technically "racist."

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Re: Poland War crimes Witch hunt stupid
« Reply #29 on: October 28, 2011, 09:17:41 PM »
"Racism" is a colloquial term frequently used to signify bigotry towards almost any sub-section of the population.  It's a waste of time to argue about whether or not something is technically "racist."

False. Racism means hatred towards a race. You're not allowed to make up definitions for your argument outside of RM. Go away.

Thork is not racist, but he does love to make offensive sweeping generalizations.