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Tides?
« on: October 26, 2011, 05:52:19 PM »
How are tides explaind in FET? In RET tides are explained by the moons gravity affecting the waters on the earth. I have looked at other topics and no other topic I have seen have mentioned tides. Can someone please clarify this for me?
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Re: Tides?
« Reply #1 on: October 26, 2011, 06:40:33 PM »
Here's some delicious homemade copypasta:

The gravitational pull of the celestial bodies provides tidal effects. Others believe that there is an object called the Sub-moon that sits underneath the Earth. The moon causes the tides, and the Sub-moon balances out the effect.

I'd post more, but I'm hungry, so I'm going to go eat some real pasta.
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« Reply #2 on: October 26, 2011, 06:57:01 PM »
How does that explain high tides on both sides of the earth at the same time?

P.S I just had some homemade pasta today it was very good. The noodles were not homemade but the sauce was. ;D
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Re: Tides?
« Reply #3 on: October 26, 2011, 07:03:53 PM »
Quote from: Tausami on October 26, 2011, 06:40:33 PM
Here's some delicious homemade copypasta:

The gravitational pull of the celestial bodies provides tidal effects. Others believe that there is an object called the Sub-moon that sits underneath the Earth. The moon causes the tides, and the Sub-moon balances out the effect.

I'd post more, but I'm hungry, so I'm going to go eat some real pasta.

Puller particle forces are heavily disputed by Tom, who has apparently never seen a magnet.
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Re: Tides?
« Reply #4 on: October 26, 2011, 07:13:58 PM »
Quote from: Nolhekh on October 26, 2011, 07:03:53 PM
Quote from: Tausami on October 26, 2011, 06:40:33 PM
Here's some delicious homemade copypasta:

The gravitational pull of the celestial bodies provides tidal effects. Others believe that there is an object called the Sub-moon that sits underneath the Earth. The moon causes the tides, and the Sub-moon balances out the effect.

I'd post more, but I'm hungry, so I'm going to go eat some real pasta.

Puller particle forces are heavily disputed by Tom, who has apparently never seen a magnet.

I'm not Tom.
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Re: Tides?
« Reply #5 on: October 27, 2011, 01:14:59 AM »
How can a Moon only 32 miles in diameter and 3,000 away from the Earth can have a gravitational effect?
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Re: Tides?
« Reply #6 on: October 27, 2011, 02:52:44 AM »
Here is what the ENaG (Earth Not a Globe, the flat earther's bible) says about the cause of tides.

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Thus we have been carried forward by the sheer force of evidence to the conclusion that the tides of the sea do not arise from the attraction of the moon, but simply from the rising and falling of the floating earth in the waters of the "great deep."

Here is a link to the chapter in ENaG that discusses all of the speculation, unsupported facts, conjecture, and idiotic reasoning that led to this conclusion.  It is very unscientific; to the point that a new science had to be created to allow for all of this conjecture: zetetic science.

http://www.sacred-texts.com/earth/za/za30.htm
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« Reply #7 on: October 27, 2011, 02:11:44 PM »
Once again how does this explain high tides on both sides of the earth at the same time ???
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« Reply #8 on: October 27, 2011, 02:16:14 PM »
Quote from: Tgor on October 27, 2011, 02:11:44 PM
Once again how does this explain high tides on both sides of the earth at the same time ???
Explain why you think we would have sea on 'both sides' of a flat earth. ???
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« Reply #9 on: October 27, 2011, 02:34:58 PM »
Quote from: Thork on October 27, 2011, 02:16:14 PM
Quote from: Tgor on October 27, 2011, 02:11:44 PM
Once again how does this explain high tides on both sides of the earth at the same time ???
Explain why you think we would have sea on 'both sides' of a flat earth. ???

I meant in relation to a round earth. On earth (round or flat) there are high tides in two different places at once. I guess I should have said in two different places at the same time. I am trying to explain what I meant without being biased. Sorry for the misunderstanding
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« Reply #10 on: October 27, 2011, 02:44:13 PM »
As your knowledge of FE tides seems a little basic, let me throw you a link. This gives you the basics and will allow you to ask probing questions.
http://www.sacred-texts.com/earth/za/za30.htm
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« Reply #11 on: October 27, 2011, 03:13:11 PM »
I don't think that I am asking an unreasonable question, or any question too probing. I am just asking for an explanation to an observed phenomenon that I have not read an explanation for in ENaG.
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« Reply #12 on: October 27, 2011, 06:21:12 PM »
And you were given several possible answers.  That is the great thing about FET.  It is like a buffet.  You get to pick and choose what you want to believe.

By the way, you will find that it is hard to get a straight answer on this forum.
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« Reply #13 on: October 27, 2011, 08:49:20 PM »
I now realize this. I RET you get one answer or it is unknown and it is just a guess. In FET you get a lot of guesses.
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« Reply #14 on: October 27, 2011, 09:01:16 PM »
If you stick around for a little while, you get used to it.
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Re: Tides?
« Reply #15 on: October 28, 2011, 09:24:13 AM »
Indeed the tides are caused by the gravitational influence of the moon and submoon.  I'm not sure I would have said "balances out the effect" however.
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Re: Tides?
« Reply #16 on: October 28, 2011, 09:29:19 AM »
Anything tangible on the submoon?
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Re: Tides?
« Reply #17 on: October 28, 2011, 09:30:26 AM »
Quote from: EmperorZhark on October 28, 2011, 09:29:19 AM
Anything tangible on the submoon?
You can directly measure the gravitational pull of the submoon with ease.  Or just observe its influence on the tides.
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« Reply #18 on: October 28, 2011, 09:33:56 AM »
I can only observe the gravitational pull of the Moon.

To me the submoon or the antimoon is still litterature.
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Re: Tides?
« Reply #19 on: October 28, 2011, 09:35:33 AM »
Quote from: EmperorZhark on October 28, 2011, 09:33:56 AM
I can only observe the gravitational pull of the Moon.
Incorrect.  You can directly measure it when it is below you and the moon is not above you.
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To me the submoon or the antimoon is still litterature.
I agree.  The antimoon is bunk.  The submoon, however, is a completely different object.
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« Reply #20 on: October 28, 2011, 09:40:24 AM »
Quote from: John Davis on October 28, 2011, 09:35:33 AM
Quote from: EmperorZhark on October 28, 2011, 09:33:56 AM
I can only observe the gravitational pull of the Moon.
Incorrect.  You can directly measure it when it is below you and the moon is not above you.

I don't think so: the Moon attracts the water which is closest (which causes high waters) andattracts less the water which is the furthest (which causes low waters). Roughly.
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Re: Tides?
« Reply #21 on: October 28, 2011, 09:41:36 AM »
Quote from: EmperorZhark on October 28, 2011, 09:40:24 AM
Quote from: John Davis on October 28, 2011, 09:35:33 AM
Quote from: EmperorZhark on October 28, 2011, 09:33:56 AM
I can only observe the gravitational pull of the Moon.
Incorrect.  You can directly measure it when it is below you and the moon is not above you.

I don't think so: the Moon attracts the water which is closest (which causes high waters) andattracts less the water which is the furthest (which causes low waters). Roughly.

It would be roughly equivilent on either model.  In RE you can measure the moons effect when it is on the opposite side of the earth.  Its not like the earth has gravitational shielding in RE.
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« Reply #22 on: October 28, 2011, 09:43:55 AM »
On RE model, there's only one Moon, and the theoy and the observations match.
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« Reply #23 on: October 28, 2011, 09:44:21 AM »
Quote from: EmperorZhark on October 28, 2011, 09:43:55 AM
On RE model, there's only one Moon, and the theoy and the observations match.
On FE there's two moons, and the theory and observations match.
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« Reply #24 on: October 28, 2011, 09:49:35 AM »
I've never ever seen litterature on this!
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« Reply #25 on: October 28, 2011, 02:44:21 PM »
Quote from: EmperorZhark on October 28, 2011, 09:49:35 AM
I've never ever seen litterature on this!

Read ENaG.
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« Reply #26 on: October 28, 2011, 03:21:41 PM »
Quote from: jroa on October 28, 2011, 02:44:21 PM
Quote from: EmperorZhark on October 28, 2011, 09:49:35 AM
I've never ever seen litterature on this!

Read ENaG.
The submoon is not in ENaG.
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Re: Tides?
« Reply #27 on: October 28, 2011, 04:11:27 PM »
Quote from: John Davis on October 28, 2011, 03:21:41 PM
Quote from: jroa on October 28, 2011, 02:44:21 PM
Quote from: EmperorZhark on October 28, 2011, 09:49:35 AM
I've never ever seen litterature on this!

Read ENaG.
The submoon is not in ENaG.
See, the submoon is such a silly idea that even Rowbotham didn't fall for it.
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Re: Tides?
« Reply #28 on: October 28, 2011, 04:20:18 PM »
Quote from: markjo on October 28, 2011, 04:11:27 PM
Quote from: John Davis on October 28, 2011, 03:21:41 PM
Quote from: jroa on October 28, 2011, 02:44:21 PM
Quote from: EmperorZhark on October 28, 2011, 09:49:35 AM
I've never ever seen litterature on this!

Read ENaG.
The submoon is not in ENaG.
See, the submoon is such a silly idea that even Rowbotham didn't fall for it.
Rowbotham would have no need for a submoon as it doesn't help support his biblical narrative.  However, that doesn't matter because Rowbotham wasn't even alive when the submoon was discovered.
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« Reply #29 on: October 28, 2011, 04:22:17 PM »
No such thing as the submoon has ever been dicovered.
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